law Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]

[Vyse Legend]

Sounds like a reason to have more crims sitting in prison doing nothing for 4 hours.

[Amaim]

YESS I really wanna see an FBI faction in the server, saw it several times back in SAMP and it was dope! however the members number should be very limited...they should be ghosts, rarely seen and unidentifiable.

[R0M4N]

that would be awesome.

[kenichis]

Don't we already have IB in PD?

[AEEKAY]

We already have something like this inside Investigations Bureau. 

[Msato]

This process already exists where they attempt to get detectives into gangs and has been done successfully in the past. 

In my opinion criminals are already the largest target group on the server at the moment - we do not need further areas to drastically reduce our "play time" as the current state of prison is not optimal at best.

If you are caught carrying out gang operations at any level, not just leaders etc you can be charged with Racketeering, another blanket charge for the sole purpose of increasing the time that criminals are made to essentially AFK.

If we want to further increase prison time, a further rework is needed. Props to DOC who are trying their hardest to make this change themselves and their are some genuine guards that further RP, however the environment & script support in prison is not adequate to put someone away for 4+ hours which consistently happens over a "felony evasion" due to charge stacking with spite, on no other basis that you are a criminal. Again not all officers are like this but a large portion of these die hard anti-criminals exist and passively deter players from the limited criminal RP that already exists.

[Xoza]

Investigations Bureau already exists. The only *change* to our current systems that could be an improvement is all law enforcement could be merged into a single "Law Enforcement Agency" where all entities of law enforcement would exist and be separated and organized internally. Or IB could be separated from PD and given it's own faction.

[TheCactus]

Sounds like something we have already

 

[Nick_Smokerson]

+1 on this, case files are also a very fun way for LEO's to engage in. ( if there was an addition of government branches, with for example the "FIB" /FBI

[AMBurnsy]

What if there was some form of Intelligence Agency that could help set up undercover or infiltration projects within not only criminal gangs but also government services to uncover people who are not performing their role fairly or correctly. This could be open to all sorts of options for work, Roleplay and story opportunities here which you can take ideas from the below thoughts:

 

Most Wanted List:
This is a list at the Intelligence Agency and maybe also available to public?
Basically it consists of the top 10 most wanted criminals who are currently operating, maybe the top gang leaders or very dangerous serial killers etc. Perhaps in order for them to be on this wall it requires a minimum of 2 items of information, something like a Name and also at least 1 Photo. The photo can be a previous arrest image if they have done previous time in prison, or a CCTV image if they have been spotted in shops, casino, clubs etc with CCTV in operation.

 

The following things below can create story lines, drama, investigation jobs, and Roleplay scenarios for the above situation:

Credit Card Tracking:
If someone is on this top 10 most wanted list, then if their card is used within a shop it blips a location of use 10 seconds after the transaction (giving criminals an equal chance to get away and also the police an idea of their accessible locations to try and locate them). The police can even go to the shops and conduct an investigation to question the staff about the person in question.
This can be avoided if the gang leaders send in foot man to do their shopping lists, or if people on the most wanted list use cash instead of card.
(encouraging criminals to use cash instead of card is very lifelike and realistic as well).

Number Plate Recognition:
Similar to above, if someone is on a most wanted list, and their car is registered to their name, what if a mechanics garage would blip up from number plate recognition through a DVLA/DMV register system. Again it should give criminals a 20 second gap to get out of the area but also provides the police with a little intelligence on locations used by the criminals and investigations or interviews can be roleplayed on scene etc.

Undercover Operations:
Maybe undercover officers could be created to infiltrate gangs to get information about their operations. Gangs can also find out who is an undercover cop if they spot the person walking in to the Intelligence Agency and they can then deal with it in their own way. (I am picturing some grim scenarios here of gang members having meetings on boats in the middle of the ocean like in the Sopranos, or perhaps on a farm next to a wood chip grinder).

 

But the advantages are not just for the police because of this next job role:

Internal Affairs:
Planting a person within the police force as an undercover and new character with some bull***t backstory like being "on transfer from another station" who is actually in the department to locate bad cops, which can range from police officers not responding to calls, police officers turning a blind eye to particular crimes, or perhaps the police force even has a mole within it who actually communicates with a gang behind their departments back?
(I suppose you could also investigate other chains of command too, fire departments, medical, even just general work at any job where foul play is suspected).

[Not Butters]

+1,

I understand that PD has detective unit but maybe they could be transferred to the FBI. I think that the only people who could join FBI are people with PD or SD experience. Could just be detectives under different team.

[Franci_King]

So theres no DEA n FBI i know that. Instead this should be the Corrections Dept. and LSPD members only rank 4+ on this group of investigators.

Since everyone is so open about being a criminal and walks around with Aks on their backs while on BIKES. do this idea a reality to make some quality RP changes IC. 

This cops will investigate and collect ICly proofs that 1 person is doing illegal activities. Once they have enough proof they can go to an close court where the judge takes the decision if the evidence is fair or its not enough to make a big NEWSPAPER HEADLINES arrest.

If the gang member or the illegal guy gets successfuly arrested, he will lose 15% of his  total cash.  This is an idea that is actually a reality in a San andreas rp server, i dont wanna say names.

The evidence must be for more than 3 crimes commited to make a BlackFile about the criminal, and all 3 should be major crimes not just speeding. 

for Example: 

Injuring or killing a person.

Illegal sale and use of firearms on public.

Sale of illegal nacotics.

Affiliation with an illegal gang 

Gang shootouts and a lot more.

Edited September 23, 2020 by Franci_King

[jason]

-1

crims already lose a sizeable amount of cash to the fines associated with their crimes, more often than not it totals to more than 15% of their total cash.

[Franci_King]

i thought being a criminal was what makes you the big money.. u guys are doing it wrong then .. anyway 15percent is a small percentage. it was more where i saw it

[Yputi]

-1, coming from a player that plays a neutral civilian.

[CaesarSeizure]

I think criminals get punished fairly with the current system and at almost every situation go in with what they can expect to lose. No need to force them to lose more.

-1

[Bala]

I'm good. I'd rather see a reduction in fines, so I'm less likely to get asked for my badge number for doing my job.

[Drizzy.]

Not needed at all.

[Lester Acosta]

This suggestion was very clearly made to spite players whom do criminal role play frequently. If you are affected by crime don’t try and make an absurd suggestion like this, instead think about how you can use your brain to not get robbed or try not get into situations that will get you killed. Frankly, I don’t know how you expected support from any side. This idea is not even close to a valid one by any means, and I doubt you were serious when making it judging by the title.

[Victor Einhart]

The LSPD Investigations Bureau already investigates criminal activity and charges are regularly placed on players when a detective closes a case.  Ask criminals if they've ever had SWAT hard stop their vehicle for no immediately apparent reason.  Many people have had this happen to them and it's almost always because they were investigated and charges placed on them and SWAT came to collect.  The reason you don't see "big newspaper headlines" is because Weazel doesn't report on it IC.

Criminals already suffer significant financial losses both through fines attached to every crime they've been charged with, and items they lose upon going to prison.  I'm not sure what else you want added, because an additional 15% total penalty right off the top of their savings seems a bit of a reach.

Edited September 24, 2020 by Victor Einhart

[krooks365]

 

 

Not needed at all.

 

[Qiang]

-1 already PD officers charge you without having evidence (evidence is valid ) so just play 1-month crime you will lose your 15% of you total bank account 

[Illmohim]

-1 

[Nexuus]

Big -1

First reason being the fact that I feel criminals are already punished enough as it is when being jailed, as a normal jail sentence for me would consist of around 15-20k in fines and 2-3 hours served (irl time ofc) along with the vehicle that I'm using impounded, which comes with fees also and of course the items on myself.

Furthermore your suggestion about us losing 15% of our savings is not needed at all, the majority of people who end up actually going to jail for crimes are usually fairly new players who don't yet have the funds to buy expensive and fast cars that have the ability to evade police with ease so with that being said it would easily demotivate plenty of people to continue on with the criminal life.

[Franci_King]

to all you guys saying like oh yea criminals are sad that they get fined for doing crimes .. what did u expect?  

this is the first server i play that is on the heavy RP side and everyone brag about being in a illegal gang in middle of a crowded area like bank or high end. 

perhaps keep it more secret so you dont get sad when i give this idea which is logically correct.