jeremyy Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 This is a pretty straight forward idea, if you have been found to have committed an offense so severe that it warrants a permanent ban from the server, you should upon appeal and return have to start with an asset wipe. Meaning all houses, cars and cash be removed from your account and you start fresh from a financial stand point. I feel that if something like this were to be put into place we would see a lot of people breaking rules a hell of a lot less and the server becoming a more immersive environment that doesn't require an admin report every time there is a shootout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaim Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1, too harsh. getting banned and staying away for an extended period of time is already severe punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronius420 Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1... With these kinda rules , server would die. Because all the players would leave it As other person said , being unable to play is already a punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeceobz Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riderz Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 I feel for some players it would encourage more reporting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyy Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, Chronius420 said: -1... With these kinda rules , server would die. Because all the players would leave it As other person said , being unable to play is already a punishment. i disagree that the server will die. I think yeah for the first offense maybe this is a bit rough, but for people that continue to commit these types of offenses there should be a further consequence than just being away from the server. If I were to be honest, as a member of the community, I dont want the people who are doing these things to be a part of the community especialy if they are just coming back to repeat the same offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacant Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1, makes 0 sense that if you are allowed back you can't continue where you left off, just an entirely not thought out suggestion that would result in less players over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisy Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 players shouldn’t loss their stuff because they have made a mistake rule wise unless it’s RWT itself which would be that “severe offence” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copperhorse Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) -1. Permanent bans are given out like candy. Perhaps if the punishment system was changed so that your offenses drop off after a while it would be something to consider (because that would mean they're breaking a lot of rules in a very short period of time), but something where you have a permanent record this makes no sense. Just killing 2 people outside of the rules, even if it was over the course of 2 years, on ECRP that warrants a permanent ban. There are a lot of notable people who have been permanently banned who would've left the server if your suggestion was implemented and it would've hurt the server if they did so. Edited December 30, 2019 by Copperhorse 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WobblierDog15 Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I don't necessarily think implementing this would cause the server to die. Although, most people who receive perm bans usually never are able to visit the server again, even with a punishment appeal. The few who get their appeals accepted and come back deserve to have a chance with their progress back on the server. The only time I see a force reset being necessary is if the player was banned for cheating. In that case the player would have an illegitimate advantage, therefore their progress would need to be wiped. If someone got banned for cheats/exploits then maybe a force reset would be a good idea, otherwise this is a -1 from me. Edited December 30, 2019 by WobblierDog15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootless Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 Dm 2 is a perma ban which is extremely low and easy to achieve. There is no amount of time that allows a punishment wipe either, You are suggesting that someone who got DM 1 a year ago should have all of his assets wiped because he miss-judged a situation a year later. There is too much time people put into this game and work in order to obtain these assets to have someone that made a few simple mistakes to have it all ripped away. I promise you if anyone who has any amount of assets such as a business or supercar and their assets were wiped due to DM 2 or a Disrupting server operations ban that they would quit. I know people with an absurd amount of assets and I also know how long they have been playing and understand the work they've put in. Assets are always wiped if it is found out they are obtained through RWT or cheating which is more than acceptable. Mistakes should not lead to legitimately obtained assets being taken away. Huge -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy. Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) -1 asset wipes should be dealt with a case by case basis and for money farming. Edited December 30, 2019 by DrizzyDre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCAJ Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaesarSeizure Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 There are just so many reasons why this should not be the case. Like, i think that the majority of people that get banned would just leave. Additionally, false bans do happen and appeals can take a long time some times, meaning that all your assets would be hard to restore. People who are banned for an extended period of time already likely lose their houses due to the server script regarding activity. Additionally, bans result in other IC penalties, such as legal factions don't want to have you in them if you were recently banned, and i would think official crime factions dont want to be full of people who are banned as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 Huge -1. Players can be playing for 1-3 years engaging in constant combat rp scenarios and all it takes is for them to slip up two times in order for them to get permanently banned. For them to successfully appeal and come back to a wiped account, it makes no sense and it isn't fair at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenichis Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 Bruh I literally got banned like 3 months ago for saying a joke. If my assets got reset and forced me to start back from 0 might as well not unban me, I would've left the server right there and then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy DiPetro Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I believe that if the ban was over something else like a person above me said - like cheating, hacking, exploiting - then maybe yes. It would make more sense in that regard Edited December 30, 2019 by Jimmy DiPetro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebab Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1, seems very unnecessary to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvle Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kencyt_Portugalai Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 HUGE -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiggins19 Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 I was perm banned once over a misunderstanding... -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 DM 2 is very common and is technically a permanent ban. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaesarSeizure Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Jimmy DiPetro said: I believe that if the ban was over something else like a person above me said - like cheating, hacking, exploiting - then maybe yes. It would make more sense in that regard A lot of cases of cheats and exploits do get some forms of asset wipes. IIRC bypasing AFK, RWT do get either a partial asset wipe or a full one. So these things already exist, no need to punish someone that could very well get 6 non rp punishments through a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 @jeremyy - Perhaps a better way to suggest it would be to have inactive players reviewed more often or asset wipe for players who are given 3+ months before they may reappeal their ban. More often than not when given such a long time prior to reappealing, there is something significant on the player's record. As currently stated I am -1 for this suggestion as permanent bans can occur over honest mistakes which is why players can be successful in their appeals after further review of their current punishments and history in the community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrgambinoitaliano Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...