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  1. Hi @Aieos I understand why the report got accepted but i think a Non RP was a bit harsh considering i returned his car and never even aimed a gun and the rule is fairly new too, I am also apologizing to the reporting party who's sultan was taken if i did ruin your RP experience. I also have never been warned for this rule as it was my first time accidentally breaching it since it was introduced. I would of been completely fine with just been giving a warning. I also took into account what Osborne said to me in my last appeal and i believe i have followed what he said i just think this punishment was a bit harsh considering something that means a lot to me has been taken away just from something so little. Edit: I have also read through the new 2020 rules which were posted today to ensure i would not slip up on the robbery rule or slack in anyway.
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  3. Character name(s): Jimmy Gambino Admin who issued punishment: Aieos / Dawpi Date of punishment: 24/07/2020 Punishment received: Unrealistic Robbery / Non RP / Permanent ban Reason given for punishment: Non-RP | Unrealistic Robbery– You will be issued a punishment for Unrealistic Robbery today. We deem this to be an Unrealistic Robbery for the following reasons: - Sandy Shores is a small city and is not considered to be a ‘Desert’ area. Realistically there would be people walking around through the streets, or be in their garden during the day. The risk of robbing someone in Sandy Shores, should realistically be high. - You can be seen being the initiating party from the robbing side. You kept walking around in circles with your gun out, ordering the man to unlock his gates and cars. This is considered a robbery. - There was no attempt to move the reporting party away from the street, but you remained in the middle of the garden without any good cover. You claim that bolt cutters and bobby pins are there for a reason, and you are right. You can rob a car from that garden, which would not break the rule. The Unrealistic Robbery rule is based on player to player robberies, and cars are not part of that. Your explanation of what happened: We found 3 high value cars behind a gate in sandy shores, we pick locked them and the failed to open the gate with the first bolt cutter attempt, by then the owner turned up so Cruzio made him open the gate and then we drove off and took all 3 cars. Then Ricky Brasco asked us to bring back his cars, so i brought back the sultan classic and Jack brought back the rebla so he never lost anything to me or Jack. Cruzio chopped the sultan as it was a high value chop and he never returned to the house and to never be seen again by the person who owned the vehicles. Why should your appeal be accepted?: Sandy shores is not a "small city", like seriously? it doesn't even have traffic lights or road markings or even paths to walk on. Its complete full of destroyed trailers, motels, sand everywhere and bland roads. It states in the rules "CLARIFICATION: Desert and forest areas could be considered secluded for player robberies to take place, e.g. Gas Stations on route 68, woods outside of Paleto Bay etc. Does not apply to job areas, and other factors should be taken into account with potential witnesses, reward vs risk factor, and motivation." The reason we wanted to chop the vehicles was because they were Aztecas colours or near enough close to them. They are also high value chops this is no way low reward at all. Them 3 cars have a combined total of around 20K - 25K which is close to the refund request amount so it is clearly not a low amount. The average legal job would take you 4 hours to make 20K and we could of made 20K in 20 minutes and the sultan RS alone is 10K chop so it is no way at all low reward, it is also a super car pricing around $3,000,000 if its not a credit one. I also never even aimed a gun at the man and i also returned his vehicle so i technically never robbed him. The rule is the most abused rule to this day and i get it promotes realistic RP but its a game at the end of the day. Something needs to be done about it. I have nothing else to add other than i feel i done nothing wrong in this situation and it is one of the most harshest punishments i have ever seen. How ever i would like to add i am sorry to the reporting party if i did effect your RP and i ensure it would never happen again. Also i do understand why the punishment was given at the end of the day as it was a rule breach but it was a odd situation and confusing. Thank you for reading. Post any evidence or further details: (Cruzios POV, I am ID2) https://streamable.com/o8yedr (REPORT) https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/42479-player-robbery-id-40/ Reports that are in more public places which only revived warnings or no punishments.
  4. I am not in any of those videos.
  5. Hi @Jasmine you can already see the faction chat conversation in 2 videos I provided I’m not exactly sure what else you want to see? Can you please be more specific. You can also just check logs and look.
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  7. There is nothing wrong with this all I said was “Side of a highway?” Because it’s classed as busy area due to the new robbery rules. It’s not meta because if you really think how many highways and roads there is in GTA how are they meant to know where I am from me saying, “Side of a highway?” when I was just referring to the rules. Then I tell Dushane to tell them to clip there POVs because my /b would not be see able from how far they are. There is nothing wrong with talking in faction chat like this at all.
  8. Player(s) being reported: 35 & 261 Date of interaction reported: 07/21/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1595353861 Your characters name: Jimmy Gambino Other player(s) involved: ID 120, ID 165 Specific rule(s) broken: 15. Player Theft, Prison Breakout, and Kidnapping Robberies are to be conducted in a realistic manner and require the robber to have a reasonable in character motive. High risk, but little reward robberies are deemed unrealistic and should not be performed. Robberies should be performed in secluded areas where there is a low chance to be seen by witnesses. Desert and forest areas could be considered secluded but potential witnesses should be taken into account. Players cannot force their victims to withdraw money from an ATM, sell property, or sell vehicles. Players cannot force their victims to hand over assets that are not present in the area. Players cannot steal from players with “NEW PLAYER” above their head unless it is in retaliation. Players with the (( NEW PLAYER )) tag that deliberately insert themselves into or start active crime scenes lose their new player protection during those illegal activities. Players may not steal from their faction treasury as the F4 menu is OOC. Permission for prison break must be approved by a Moderator+ prior to the attempt. Players may participate in no more than 1 prison break attempt within 1 OOC week. Official Factions may attempt 2 additional breaks in the case the pri How did the player break the rule(s)? I was injured at the side of a highway and the 2 people that were helping me, ID 35 & ID 261 decided to rob and kill one of them. Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/50ypf4
  9. Ye i never took the sultan bro so i never robbed you. You made a report over someone stealing a super car and then 2 of us get through in somehow? seems very unreasonable to me.
  10. Because i returned his cars? How is me bringing him his cars back to him a robbery? I fail to understand how you believe i robbed him. We never intended to rob him but he turned up which is just unfortunate timing.
  11. I never chopped the sultan and i returned you car to you, it just sounds like rule playing to me honestly which is the biggest abused thing on this server today because of this robbery rule. I think your missing the point that i never actually robbed you.
  12. I have no POV as the reporting party did not tell me i was being reported. I would like to ask @Jellay how i robbed him when you can clearly see me returning the vehicle? I understand that i did take his car before hand but i returned it so technically NEVER ROBBED HIM. How ever even if i did rob him we are in sandy shores a run down area which is a desert with no cameras and we are masked up criminals and it is also mostly quiet all the time and the person was not there before hand when we started the robbery as we bobby pinned all 3 cars got them unlocked then started to bolt cut the gates because they are a grey colour which is our gang car colour. The owner then came so we made him unlock gates which took him a while and never really seemed scared surrounded by multiple criminals which is then fear RP. This is no way low reward at all. Them 3 cars have a combined total of around 20K - 25K which is close to the refund request amount so it is clearly not a low amount. The average legal job would take you 4 hours to make 20K and we could of made 20K in 20 minutes and the sultan RS alone is 10K chop so it is no way at all low reward, it is also a super car pricing around $3,000,000 if its not a credit one, and how can you judge someone on what they think high reward is? Do you know there wealth in the server? Do you know if they need to pay people back desperately? No. 20K to a new player is a lot and other players. so you can't really judge us on what you feel low reward or high reward robbery is. How do you know how much money i have in my bank? what if i had 5K in my bank? So this is no way a low reward robbery. We also have bobby pins and bolt cutters on the server for a reason so we can steal cars and open there house gates if the owner never turned up the report would have never been made. He also never told us that he felt rules were broken so we couldn't even resolve it anyway. I have nothing else to add other than i believe the report is very petty. Thanks for reading. "Desert and forest areas could be considered secluded but potential witnesses should be taken into account." A report here which was denied and in a public place doing the same thing i was. Another report here which is reasonable as it was low reward and in a way more busier place. that was for 13 fish how ever our robbery was for a super car and 2 other cars making the robbery almost 10x more in costs.
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    best of luck lads
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