Popular Post Luxas Posted August 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Seeing as the staff team want to delete our comments, let’s have a discussion here instead. i will post my original reply: I didn’t want to do this out of the respect for the admin that created this post, but after seeing and hearing the lies that have been told to me over the past week, I feel I need to. Not only do I not agree that this and Bakmeels thread should be official but they also lied to me and others. I was told by a admin and a senior admin that “these factions will not be granted anything free, they will have to work for there own assets.” - I show you a small portion of transfer requests below that have all been accepted from their Main Legal accounts to fund their criminal accounts. I quote you the Transfer Request guidelines. “ We will not accept any transfer requests from legal characters trying to fund their criminal characters for the sole purpose of that character becoming stronger, e.g. funding your criminal character with guns using the money made off your legal character (e.g. LSPD).” So why have these been accepted? Just because they are staff? While other requests have been denied recently which are not staff but have the same stories? https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/44218-transfer-request-mikael-cowell-ryan-rogers/ https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/44214-transfer-request-seth-blackwood-butch-bagwell/ https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/44219-tyrone-cox-jack-everett/ https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/44239-transfer-request-phillipe-sanchez-rico-jackson/ https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/44294-kat-galaxy-noa-mercer/ https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/43929-transfer-request-archie-wood-ashley-grey/ All of these requests have now powered the Lost MCs cash level above the 1M mark, to find their criminal characters. I will move onto my next point. As the original faction leader for LSMC, I put in over 6 months of hard work, dedication, a denied official application “because we were not seen by the staff team” and more. We spent every day building RP, stopping other MCs, building relationships, having conflicts and creating posts. We had to wait over 6 weeks for our second application to be reviewed and after chasing it with 2 head admins it was finally accepted. All of our official requests are still pending review. It took over 2 months to get our official HQ added. We seem to have been ignored for the rest we was promised. Not only did the creation of this faction make me and my entire faction feel worthless because they have basically just copied the name, the RP style and the fact they were handed free official but after this and hearing about this faction, along with other reasons, I decided to quit LSMC and the server entirely. I asked my Faction Management team a while back “if I was to have the correct RP to move LSMC into the criminal world, what would happen with official status?” Their answer was “you would most likely lose official status and have to prove to FM that you deserve it in the criminal aspect”. This faction is a huge kick and spit in the face for the other factions out there. You want “diverse criminal RP” but you’re going the wrong way about it. I can name you 10 factions that deserved and deserve official status, yet you won’t give it to them. Dojin-Kai, Crimson Syndicate, GD, Irish, FSO, Ballas and more that have active faction threads and applications in. I hope that the head admins read this and realise they fucked up. Because I don’t speak for just me. I speak for 50+ criminals who are in factions who feel the exact same way. And who are quitting the server because of this favouritism for the staff team. I wish Aldari the best of luck. 3 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qiang Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 +1 getting approval buy staff team (head admins) and other big factions (criminal factions) is very hard is cost you lots of IC money OOC playtime maybe around 5 months lots of IC PD charges you need to pay for it is not fair for other factions I hope that the head admins read this i think they have their permission and this should review by owners but i am very happy for the first time SAmembers wanna face the PD i hope then they realize PD is broken. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machete Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Most admins are in LEO factions so they have a grudge against them. Havent seen a single admin actively RP anymore apart from mrsilky, might just be me? but how are they supposed to see crim factions thrive when almost all of them are on the law enformenct side. We actively avoid you at all times because of the never want to lose law enforcement attitude and ruleplay. Funny to see how admins just create their official faction without having to do the work. It's extremely disrespectfull and demotivating to other crim factions that are trying to make it. Instantly official without even talking to the major gangs? I might be wrong cause i'm on LOA but Lets see how long they stay alive. I thought having server precense was a requirement for official? perhaps its not anymore? They are spitting into the faces of the people that worked so hard for this. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manula_Adams Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 All the negative comments,and comments of people disagreeing with making MC and the other criminal factions, has been removed from the faction thread but I do have screenshots of some of the comments before they were deleted. These are comments from @James Sakamoto @Ryzoft : https://imgur.com/tYrftps And this was my comment which I predicted that would get deleted before posting it : https://imgur.com/xG78hr6 Denying someones freedom of speech is one of the most degrading things to do and I don't think there's anything else for me to say. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunko Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Wouldn't be surprised if this post gets deleted just like the comments mentioned previously, but huge props to you @Luxas for actually having the balls to make a public discussion about this. It's so disappointing to see such favoritism within the server. It's insulting to a huge portion of the player base of ecrp to just give away official status for free to higher staff members and I hope that those staff members can understand our point of view. On the LMC faction thread, Archaeah said "All current factions (with handlers) high command members have been told what this is and informed of the purpose and future. If you want to jump to conclusions and make up your own information, keep it to yourself. None of you have actually asked directly or found out the information yourself." If this really is just a trial system for a new means of factions to gain official status, don't keep that information to yourselves and other official faction leaders. If you want to avoid drama let the rest of the player base know why you have just completely bypassed a system that countless others have worked months for so they can understand your point of view. All im asking for is transparency. Edited August 22, 2020 by bunko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 for me i have no problem of them making a official new crim organization atleast it dosent fall in the category lets all be friendly and attack only rooks category and the fact that 6 gangs are activly attacking one group and has no iner conflict seems kinda prety nonrp aztecas faught so many godam small wars with same sized organizations as it was good for the rp but nowadays everygang is magicly friendly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 I wonder if any head admin or senior admin will actually answer the fact of the transfer requests that are being accepted because they are staff members? @Lewis @Dqniel @BallinByNature @Archaeah @Bakmeel ? Want to explain the transfer requests? i will quote it again for you to make it easy for you We will not accept any transfer requests from legal characters trying to fund their criminal characters for the sole purpose of that character becoming stronger, e.g. funding your criminal character with guns using the money made off your legal character (e.g. LSPD) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaYagaBruh Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 I am actually utterly disgusted by how this server operates now. When did this server decide to say fuck it to all their hard working players and become an admin playground? People work so hard to get official, you have several gangs with good rp waiting for it. Why can they not have it? Just spit on and demotivate all the players who try to organise something and work hours upon hours to make it work. Or is it that they have the wrong alliances in the admins eyes? Very cool to see this epic quality RP by starting with transfering a bunch of assets to the criminal char, so much for organic growth and being an example to the community ey 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldon Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 It's not staff owned factions, but server owned factions where leadership will be given away to other players, as we want to establish more factions for more people to be included in the criminal content. That does not mean that custom factions will not be possible to create. We also plan to make more changes to make the black market more accessible to non-official faction members. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 It's not staff owned factions, but server owned factions where leadership will be given away to other players, as we want to establish more factions for more people to be included in the criminal content. That does not mean that custom factions will not be possible to create. We also plan to make more changes to make the black market more accessible to non-official faction members. Can you explain or answer the fact that these transfer requests are being accepted? Can you also see our point that we now have 6+ Crim factions who are giving up and quitting because they feel all their hard work has been spat on and ignored? They no longer want to push for official because staff are just being handed it with no prior RP or thread. How comes, I had a player owned official faction and asked to become illegal and was denied and told I would lose official? If you want more player owned illegal factions then why was I denied? @Osvaldon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Luxas why would they give a faction thats with council an official just becose they chase some people around 24/7 ? how is that an rp standart as most groups that your quoting are just helping council i think if there would be more diversity you would get it and for LSMC the faction was an legal faction with mostly pd members and md how you supose you would have gone illegal ? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaYagaBruh Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 It's not staff owned factions, but server owned factions where leadership will be given away to other players, as we want to establish more factions for more people to be included in the criminal content. That does not mean that custom factions will not be possible to create. We also plan to make more changes to make the black market more accessible to non-official faction members. But I mean still... Is the unofficial ones not good enough? Is that the opinion of the staff team then? Because why does the server need server owned criminal factions, when you at any given time got 6-10 player owned factions trying to make it? Is it because you guys don't like the current climate or direction of gangs? Are these supposed to be rooky gangs where people enter to try Crim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Luxas why would they give a faction thats with council an official just becose they chase some people around 24/7 ? how is that an rp standart as most groups that your quoting are just helping council i think if there would be more diversity you would get it and for LSMC the faction was an legal faction with mostly pd members and md how you supose you would have gone illegal ? This isn’t the point of this thread. So you are saying that the reason the 6+ factions don’t have official is because they are allied with another faction? If diversity is what admins are looking for then this server is going to run itself into the floor. and how LSMC would have gone illegal? It’s called RP mate. And would have been done IC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 6+ gangs if goten official the server would have no lively hood as most gangs are just happy homies and makes no sense never in the 1 year of my time on the server there has been so many council positive gangs i think the fact that 6 or more gangs can work together is purely ooc friendships no ic interactions as realisticly that wouldnt be posible 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaYagaBruh Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 6+ gangs if goten official the server would have no lively hood as most gangs are just happy homies and makes no sense never in the 1 year of my time on the server there has been so many council positive gangs i think the fact that 6 or more gangs can work together is purely ooc friendships no ic interactions as realisticly that wouldnt be posible You're talking about something you clearly know very little about. I recommend you read some of the forum threads and you will see RP reasons for situations. This is an RP server, which means criminal side is as much who you know, what you do, and how you do politics to survive - you know, like irl. It isn't PVP let's go merk the biggest gangs and their allies because we got 10 people and a shotgun to share amongst us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Your text is funny the matter of fact that you dont know whats happening is amazing me i can go around the city doing my busines and for no rp reasons that i can see im just geting chased that im allegedly a rook all do f4 wise im not and rp wise im not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Almost 30 upvotes here from community members who have spent their time, energy and money on this server. Yet we get ignored. @Osvaldon can you answer my questions above? How do none of the head staff see there is a clear problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dor Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Almost 30 upvotes here from community members who have spent their time, energy and money on this server. Yet we get ignored. @Osvaldon can you answer my questions above? How do none of the head staff see there is a clear problem? I agree with most of the things you've said. But it's been only three hours, give it some time bro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldon Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 @Luxas in regards to the transfer requests and your faction's official status, these are questions better suited for staff members in the transfer request department and faction management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Brandon the funniest thing yall dont even know whats happening with rooks icly all do we aint even called rooks all do you somehow know that we rooks it amuses me that yall have the audocity to call somone about a gang that died off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 it seems like yall 6 gangs are just buthurt one time something didnt go your way deal with it icly and ill quote you brandon how can you say they can have official if if you even dont know how they organize icly and rp icly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindEZ Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Luxas why would they give a faction thats with council an official just becose they chase some people around 24/7 ? how is that an rp standart as most groups that your quoting are just helping council i think if there would be more diversity you would get it and for LSMC the faction was an legal faction with mostly pd members and md how you supose you would have gone illegal ? What you on about honestly ? Just say council council council , when this topic aint about council . You talking about an ic isssue , make smart choices ic and you dont end up here You keep talking about great rp and things like that when your rp is so deep in the shadows that you cant post it on forums ? Afraid of people to MG it ? Then we are here when second in command of rooks got banned for MG I honestly dont understand a word you sayin Edited August 22, 2020 by WindEZ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Beaulieu Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 it seems like yall 6 gangs are just buthurt one time something didnt go your way deal with it icly and ill quote you brandon how can you say they can have official if if you even dont know how they organize icly and rp icly Stop putting IC-things into an OOC-discussion, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquan Smith Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) - Edited August 22, 2020 by Jaquan Smith nvm ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindEZ Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) For everyone to understand and stop being haters here , Lucas - owner of this thread was the leader of an official faction (LEGAL) Stop talking about council , this is a separate problem that he adressed so lets respect his thread . Intervention of a moderator now would be welcome since this people are talking about a IC issue , and no connection whatsover with this topic Edited August 22, 2020 by WindEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
