Cars to be hot-wired if you don't have a key

[Amaim]

It happens a lot that while you are unparking your car somebody is standing nearby and once you unlock he just jumps in, engine on and is gone on his way before you can even react despite no key being in the car ICly...- which is not realistic at all.

My suggestion is to make cars in need of hot-wiring if you wanna turn on the engine and you don't have a key, the hot-wiring shouldn't be fail/success like pick-locking but rather just a timer (say 30 seconds)

If the person later on engine off the car and tries to engine on again he will have to hot-wire it again.

(while hot-wiring I suggest an /ame is generated just like when someone frisks a downed player)

Edited December 23, 2019 by Amaim

[Mariaaaa]

+1

[TonyRizzo]

+1

carjacking is so barebones, it could use a lot of work

[Chronius420]

+1

[gyrhnr]

+1

[dawpi]

This suggestion would make a lot of sense, especially, if the vehicle was left with a non-running engine. At the moment all you have to do is just bobby pin it and then you can start it without any keys which is very unrealistic if the engine is not running. This needs to be introduced. +1.

[CaesarSeizure]

+1

[Mopop]

+1 I've always supported this idea.

[Amaim]

19 hours ago, Hoxton_Curry said:

-1 Unless the amount of money you receive from chopshop is increased 

So a 30 seconds timer with an /ame generated above your head with a 100% success chance is too much that you need chopshop money increased?..- it doesn't change anything except that nobody can just hop in your car and drive away instantly as if he had keys waiting for him.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Amaim

[Rubsmeister]

1 hour ago, Amaim said:

So a 30 seconds timer with an /ame generated above your head with a 100% success chance is too much that you need chopshop money increased?..- it doesn't chance anything except that nobody can just hop in your car and drive away instantly as if he had keys waiting for him.

Chopping cars nowadays is already a thing basically no one does for money anymore for the following reasons:

1. You have to do it with multiple people to get a ride back and for protection so you always have to split the money

2. SD actively patrols chopshops so you constantly have to flee out because they keep driving in with sirens

If you add another downside to stealing vehicles, no one would do it anymore. Eliminating another way to make money in a time when there is dire need for criminal content is an all round bad idea

[Jbacon]

+1 , whilst I understand the concerns pertaining to Chopping cars, but this is about RP, not about grinding money, this community isn't intended to be about money but rather about rp and player interactions... currently I will get a handful of 911 calls a shift saying "my car was stolen from parking lot" so I pull up and guy tells me "I just took it out and guy jumped in it and was gone"... this isn't rp this is abuse of a server script, as rply these cars would be secured in a secure compound inside the parking lot... not just poof into existence. Thus lets rp folks! its why we are here!!!!

[GoldenEye]

Should have always been a thing, +1

[Aldarine]

+1 

I've always viewed it as not realistic at all being able to hop into a vehicle with its engine turned off and just drive off with no keys or hot-wiring. 

[Skippy]

makes no sense to be able to just turn a car on like magic, even if it is a push button car then u still have to have keys in the vehicle for it to work. 

+1 makes a lot of sense

[Rubsmeister]

1 hour ago, Jbacon said:

+1 , whilst I understand the concerns pertaining to Chopping cars, but this is about RP, not about grinding money, this community isn't intended to be about money but rather about rp and player interactions... currently I will get a handful of 911 calls a shift saying "my car was stolen from parking lot" so I pull up and guy tells me "I just took it out and guy jumped in it and was gone"... this isn't rp this is abuse of a server script, as rply these cars would be secured in a secure compound inside the parking lot... not just poof into existence. Thus lets rp folks! its why we are here!!!!

There is no fun in RP'ing when there is nothing to do. It's easy to say thats its not about grinding money when you are a cop and you get paid for being on duty.

[SilentVortex]

+1

[TheCactus]

+1 

If the engine is off you should not be able to randomply turn it on like the key was left there/spawned there

[Amaim]

13 hours ago, Rubsmeister said:

Chopping cars nowadays is already a thing basically no one does for money anymore for the following reasons:

1. You have to do it with multiple people to get a ride back and for protection so you always have to split the money

2. SD actively patrols chopshops so you constantly have to flee out because they keep driving in with sirens

If you add another downside to stealing vehicles, no one would do it anymore. Eliminating another way to make money in a time when there is dire need for criminal content is an all round bad idea

1. I don't disagree with you that chopshop money might need to get increased but that's irrelevant to my suggestion since it wont change anything except give the player who jumps into a car a cooldown before he just arrow up and bolt. (no success/fail chance, just a timer of T seconds like food and water)

2. I'm in SD and I play actively and we never ever patrol Chop Shop locations we have an OOC rule about it, we only discover Chop Shop locations by IC means not OOC knowledge of the locations (IC means can be 911 calls, people reporting their vehicles stolen and providing us a location,etc.. but mostly 911's), however let's not divert the discussion to an offtopic.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Amaim

[Skippy]

9 hours ago, Hoxton_Curry said:

-1 Unless the amount of money you receive from chopshop is increased 

 

3 hours ago, Rubsmeister said:

Chopping cars nowadays is already a thing basically no one does for money anymore for the following reasons:

1. You have to do it with multiple people to get a ride back and for protection so you always have to split the money

2. SD actively patrols chopshops so you constantly have to flee out because they keep driving in with sirens

If you add another downside to stealing vehicles, no one would do it anymore. Eliminating another way to make money in a time when there is dire need for criminal content is an all round bad idea

I don’t understand why you think it’s so bad, it won’t even require u to buy anything extra just an extra 30 seconds or so that adds a little bit of rp? And honestly chopshoping is not that bad now, 3K every 15 min or so if u do the minimum and constantly it doesn’t take much effort

[vuki]

+1

but It wont work, as soon as you leave the render range of vehicles and come back their engines will be on.

[Shimo]

+1, 

 

1. Would reduce the amount of people hopping into cars and driving off

2. Gives an ACTUAL reason to turn the engine off.

3. It's realistic.

 

HOWEVER. Timer should be increased based on how expensive the car is. Can't exactly "hotwire" a super car irl, they have a lot more complex security in place which would take time to break.

Edited December 23, 2019 by shimo

[Flucifial]

I'm surprised this hasn't come up way sooner tbh

+1

[KCAJ]

16 hours ago, Hoxton_Curry said:

-1 Unless the amount of money you receive from chopshop is increased 

+1 to add if the chopshop price is increased 

[Pertinax]

HUGE +1

[bumbalaga]

+1 Except you should only need to hot-wire a car once, even if it stalls. Since if you have already altered the cables/security, all you need to do is initiate the starter again. It's just the initial work that takes time to set it up. It could be on a timer, if for instance nobody is driving the car for 5 minutes, the hot-wire resets and/or it could be made so that the owner has to have it fixed by a mechanic.

 

It could also open a wide range of possibilities on introducing custom "alarms and locks" that could be purchased and upgraded on a car, to make it harder to steal. These cars could then pay more at the chopshop.