Bala

If we are PD/Legal, we have to operate within the law no matter what. You put yourself out there when you decide to be a criminal but it's purely your choice. You said it yourself, after an hour i've forgot all about you so why is keeping you entertained my problem? I'm not DOC and i'm not a fellow inmate. See, I think people like you and actually probably a number of the criminals in this server are so used to the safety blanket of two hour prison sentences and it's spoilt you. Now that you have actual consequences for your actions, you can't handle it. You want it to be one way, but it's the other way. This is a game but there are winners and losers. Your aim is to do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it. My aim is to stop you from doing those things if they are illegal. If you avoid prison, you win. If you go to prison, I win. I can understand that you'd like me to empathise with your situation but what about the miners that get robbed or the people that get murdered? I doubt your thinking about their fun when you're ruining their time on the server. But that's how it goes. The strong pick on the weak. You only have a problem with that when someone else is the farmer with the shotgun and you're the rabbit. You want RP in the prison? You and your FeelsChromosomeMan buddies need to be creating it. Don't look to DOC or PD for the answer to your problems, we can't roleplay for you. If the sum of your efforts in jail is watching Netflix and doing the afkmath, then you're the problem, not us.

AFAIK, you have to do a /me when interacting with a dead body and you also have to do a /do asking for any resistance when interacting with a live person in this way. If people aren't following it, they're breaking the rules.

This seems a reliable, unbiased discussion about the prison times. No doubt the usual suspects will post their rhetoric. Let's face it, arbitary screenshots or not, you still almost certainly did something to deserve that time.

If i leave your radio on someone, they can communicate with the outside world. If I leave a bottle of vodka on someone, they can use that bottle to try and kill somebody. If I leave a fishing rod on someone, that's frankly just ridiculous. I get it, things can be expensive and it's annoying have to rebuy things but maybe dont carry what you don't need or don't get caught by the police.

Doesn't hurt at all, adds a little extra flavour to things.

It was added but it's for Weazel, as it should be.

The frisk and cuff timers make sense. The vehicle lock and the eating/drinking timers are AIDS though.

So, there were too many cops online for your faction to break you out but stealing back your car is some how a worthwhile endeavour? If we're talking about realistic behaviours, I think we have to acknowledge that's a bit of a double standard. If we're talking realism, there would be hundreds of police officers in a city this big with special towing units. PD has 125 people and usually about 10 of those on. It's not always practical to go and get a tow-truck. Most times we will use a tow-truck but when an issue is time sensitive or it's a bike for example, we'll take it ourselves. As for the PD officer driving at excessive speeds, that sounds like the sort of thing that would be an in-character IA report issue, not for a suggestion forum. I also resent the implication that the PD wants to prevent role-play with anyone, I think that's actually slanderous. We do have a set protocol when impounding vehicles, thank you very much. I would like to see you guys not use masks to hide your identities constantly but I doubt that will happen. Think you have to perhaps accept the practicalities of the situation and not make a mountain out of a molehill. IPPU, we coming for you. You didn't suggest an alternative, 9/10 times it's a towtruck that is responsible for a vehicle getting towed.

We've got the DCC and for the most part, I think it works. There aren't always enough fares for 2-3 people as is, so adding more transport possibilities isn't a good idea to me right now. -1

I guess trying to solve it through IC means isn't really working because we can't watch the Farm and the Mine and this and that 24/7. It's also not practical to make the farm a no-crime zone. I think an ideal compromise would be making the wheat player specific. You could still do your job, but you could still be robbed of your other items. Then it becomes about having stuff on you when you are working, not about them stealing your work.

I don't want to presume to know how you choose to play but sometimes it seems like people think they have this protection bubble around them and in reality, if you are alone and/or unarmed you're going to be a target for those in groups and/or armed. That's just human nature, the strong preys on the weak and so forth. You can't really escape it completely but if you keep your wits about you then you are less likely to get caught slipping. Carry a gun, keep surveying your surroundings. Paul's Farm, the Mine and the Foundry are all pretty secluded or far out locations so it makes sense it would happen there.

Doing what you suggested wouldn't necessarily stop you from being pulled over. -1

Fair enough for taking a stand and not just complaining about it, I think there is probably room to joke with people when sensitive subjects come up with friends because not everyone finds the same things offensive but obviously if it's a complete stranger then it's different. Best of luck.

Didn't really know you much apart from my Punishment appeal but reading what you put was rough man, sorry you had to even go through something like that. Hope your mother is doing a lot better, that's some heroic shit right there.

Someone went to prison today for 27 hours. They weren't gang affiliated, they were not a murderer or an armed robber, they recklessly drove a lot. The cops didn't apply those charges, the server did but because of the amount of charges they amassed decided they were getting that amount. So, when stuff like that happens, even on a rare occasion, to me it exposes a massive flaw in this change. It genuinely seems like the big picture gets ignored. PD and Gang relations are on a knife edge at the best of times but you have the perfect insight into just how bad it is in this thread. Gangs don't fight each other and they have even less incentive to do so now because if they get caught and naturally in a gang war, it's gunna make noise and cops will see, it's going to result in hefty prison sentences. For what? The gangs aren't gaining anything, they either maintain the peaceful status quo or they lose out. How's that good for encouraging Gang RP? We're cats and dogs at the end of the day but there has to be some respect and understanding between at least the leaders of each faction or it splinters the community. This change is the equivalent of not being able to get enough salt out of the salt pot, so you unscrew the top and pour it out. It should of been increased to a more reasonable number like 5/6 hours then see how things go from there. Baby steps, not a long jump. Personally, I'm not comfortable sending someone to prison for more than six hours so if it's solely up to me and they roleplay, i'm gunna be asking admins to set less time whenever possible. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar and I feel like it's important PD is seen as being reasonable and fair, else we can't really expect the same from the crims can we.

I'm glad you got the sarcasm

Date and time (provide timezone): 03/07 01:17 Character name: Dezzy Bala Issue/bug you are reporting: You can see /dep radio chat when you are in PD and another faction, even if you aren't tuned into the PD frequency. Expected behavior: I believe that you should not be able to see the department radio if you aren't on duty as a Cop, Medic or Corrections. Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: You cannot talk but you can see it. If you're off duty, you shouldn't be able to and it's separate from being in the PD radio channel so you cant toggle it.

I want a 5% chance that we can tell if someone is chopping a car.

I think in trying to adjust the balance, they've just completely swung it the wrong way and if I were a criminal, it's perhaps not going to motivate me to commit crime smarter which seems to be the point, it's going to demotivate me to play, especially if I'm stuck in prison for 10 hours. It's about balance, yes punish those that commit the crimes but then we're reliant on criminals for our activity in PD as well and it's been weird the past couple weeks because there are periods where we've had 250-300 people on the server and barely any 911 calls. I'm not sure that a 10 hour prison sentence helps that. I'm also not sure that it encourages the gangs to fight each other instead of baiting cops and robbing civilians either because they know it's an easy catch. I'm not sure that people are as accepting OOC to go to prison. I'm not sure that people won't do everything they possible can to death roleplay or to loophole out of going to prison. A new player comes to the server and is speeding around in a vehicle, getting Reckless Operation charges but he's unaware of the consequence of this like a normal player would be. He gets 4 of those charges and when he gets caught, he goes to prison for three hours for driving fast around the city. He thinks it's just tickets. We then have to remove his license, he get an extra fine on top. If that was you, would you stay? It's like a lot of these changes whether it's the GPS or the prison cap or the hunger/water or the recoil or the cross hair removal is for a server we don't have.

+1 - Maybe they were going for more realism but it's GTAV, not DayZ. Everyone has access to a smart phone, it's not unreasonable to have a Map App on it.

I don't agree with removing the rule completely because I think people will twist it as a reason just to kill cops. However, I do think there needs to be some leeway for exceptional circumstances. Exceptional Circumstances to me would be for example if you were aware you were going to prison for like 8-10 hours, I think you have role-play reason then to do everything in your power to try and resist that, especially if you are in a faction that has the means to do so. Killing someone because you don't wanna go to prison for a couple hours or get your vehicle impounded wouldn't wash with me though i'm afraid.

I only speak for myself in this but as a cop and as someone who actively advocated for higher sentences, I think increasing the prison cap to 10 hours is an unnecessary exaggeration and it's going to create as many problems as it solves. Gang Roleplay is already quite stale, in that they don't war with one another. They pick on civilians and bait cops to chase them, as far as I can see out of boredom rather than anything else. Doing either of those things now with the prison increase isn't worth the punishment anymore but I don't believe it's going to achieve the desired results either. Pre-patch, there were occasions when someone wanted would stop for a traffic stop or that they'd hand themselves in. Ask yourself honestly, Is someone that's facing eight hours in prison going to role-play with the police or are they even more inclined to try and shoot their way out of trouble? There is a fragile relationship between criminals and police. We rely on criminals for our job and the criminals rely on us for that element of extra danger. Changes like this in my opinion only serve to undermine that relationship and strain relations even further. For me, six hours would of been the sweet spot. You can get most of that sentence done in a day of playing. Ten hours is probably 2-3 days of playing before you have any kind of freedom. As for the original post, completely in agreement, you should be punished for the offences you commit and no more or less. Shooting at just 1 cop, when seven are present should only equate to 1 cop.

Hi Bill, we've been told not to use the solid barriers to stop vehicles on purpose anymore. They are only used now to protect crime or accident scenes. If you hit them, it's likely you aren't paying attention to the road.

If we can start seizing assets from people who have debts due then I'm all for people being able to hide their cash more. Could even be a small division of the PD that's responsible for asset seizure, i'd love that.

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