Remove Player IDs from showing above heads

[Eliza]

Pretty straightforward, make it so player IDs only show up when you press the scoreboard button, as there have been cases of players metagaming IDs to identify other individuals, whether its accidentally or on purpose.

 

I would also like to say that I'm not making accusations at all and do not wish to come across this way, but the opportunity is there for it to happen.

Edited November 16, 2023 by DontSniffSugar

[idgafashlee]

+1 I feel like this would be pretty simple to implement. IDs provide a means of metagaming literally constantly and whether it's intentional or subconscious it's something that's happening way more often than it should. 

[Quietthecutie]

Its true. Once you see that number over someones head thats how you remember them until you have a chance to alias them, even if you dont intend to metagame its right there staring at you, encouraging you to draw some ic parallel to id them rply. 

My question would be if we were to do this, how would we identify unknown/masked players in the event of say, a report? Or text chat? If they move outside our vision range we wouldnt be able to? Or am i missing something here...

Edited November 16, 2023 by Quietthecutie

[Harveyyy]

This was implemented at some point - players had to press left ALT to show player IDs. This didn't last as it caused issues, mainly with player reports, so the alternative was to decrease the ID/alias opacity.

[Jett_J]

Yea the issue is when you try to document rule breaks that happen too quick to press the scoreboard to reveal their ID. Without their ID you're out of luck.

[Bala]

When someone complained to the devs that PD was using IDs in the MDC to metagame people to place charges (when there was no real proof of any of that) and we got that convenient thing taken away, I didn't say anything.

If there are instances of people metagaming, they'll be reported and punished, no?

Trying to fix things that haven't broken just leads to more unnecessary restrictions, so "-1" like me saying this means anything.

[Shining0103]

-1

It was implemented before for a short while and it caused all sorts of issues, including people forgetting to press ALT before posting a report and staff having to go just by logs, which isn't ideal in situations where a lot of people might be involved. I'm personally for the opposite, as in bringing back the full opacity of a couple of years ago or at the very least being able to change the opacity of the IDs from 0 to 100.

*If you have actual proof (not suppositions, not assumptions, not "a feeling", evidence) of someone metagaming using your ID, nothing stops you from reporting.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Shining0103

[moment]

Agreed.

OOC information such as this shouldn't be constantly shown as it not needed only when it is necessarily and let's be honest its not hard to press a button to show the ID when heavily needed.

To add also remove the experience of a player from in-game paperboard the amount of times it is silent-metagame it's crazy and no you cannot heavily prove it to report but certain times it's quite obvious. The stats such as experience can be shown only in panel only in my opinion.

Edited November 16, 2023 by PhenomenalX

[Cyrus Raven]

I don't think getting rid of player IDs is that needed. If anyone is afraid of some MG and you have the opportunity, simply reconnecting to the server will cycle your ID.

However... for the love of god get rid of aliases or make them only show up when you're 1 meter away from that person. I shouldn't be able to see someone's name when their driving on the opposite lane past me. I don't know about anyone else, but this is why I wear a mask 99% of times.

[BlueFlame]

-1 this has been experienced before and caused many issues.

[Ahmet]

-1

[Malinq]

I have only one concern. Player reports as stated above. -1 unfortunately. I get the idea of author, but would cause much more problems. 

[Ash]

As much as I’d love it from an immersion perspective, it just doesn’t work because it makes reports extremely hard to conclude.

I still think an option/toggle to hide aliases and only show id would be good. But I guess that’s not really in line with the accusations about metagaming.

[PurplePlant]

+1 it was meta-gamed when the scoreboard also showed players names, and that was adjusted to help. There are a few commands that need adjusting to prevent meta information like /fmembers which shows all online faction members and is definitely used to meta who's online.

[Requiem]

I do not believe the pros of implementing this will outweigh the cons with the issues caused for player reports. 

[Quietthecutie]

just saying i feel kinda smug to wake up to a storm of -1's when i called it...

[GR_Seb]

Make it  AN OPTION

/togids

Edited November 16, 2023 by GR_Seb

[HobGoblin]

maybe we could have IDs always visible and alias only show at a closer distance / when you hold a button.

[Alannn]

-1

[Cup]

This ones tough for me as I agree that people more then likely do use the IDs even accidentally however i think the downsides overall might outweigh the gains of a change

[Trevor Zelias]

This was once a thing where you had to press like alt or something to see the name. It was good and bad the same time since some people made AHK for having it always pressed in or either how I found out you could do it was tab out with the button pressed and it kept it that way until either you pressed it again and such. And I've also played couple of servers where you have to remember faces. I feel as many times its good since people go and change their face 99% of the time. And if you are kind of a person that forgets faces or have a hard time reading how someone looks. It is good how the server is now, but what I would love to see is not to remove names over players character just add so if I for example have remember using a EXAMPLE name now but... Jason Steel (Idiot Pig ingame) or.. Solomon Cobb (Worst DOC Warden 01) etc etc. And they go and change their face at the hospital it automatically gets removed if they maybe pay another extra "New Look New Me" fee (Another way to get some money away from the server also). Lets say 50-100k ontop of the first price since plastic surgery right now only changes look but cant really "act a new person" since /alias (id) (name) is kept after this

Phones you can get a new number at the store and have it completely reseted with the buy of a new one, no contacts, new number etc etc. Should not be impossible to add some small codes to plastic surgery also

Hope yall like my example  

[Rage.]

-1, i liked @jason's suggestion for /alias here. i think its a better alternative then just removing it completely

[Ash]

2 hours ago, Trevor Zelias said:

Solomon Cobb (Worst DOC Warden 01)

What the fuck bro but I guess it’s better than some aliases I’ve seen people have of me like “DOC Hitler” and “admin ash” 

 

also yeah the suggestion linked in the post above is what I’d like to see implemented 

[Trevor Zelias]

On 11/17/2023 at 9:05 PM, Ash said:

What the fuck bro but I guess it’s better than some aliases I’ve seen people have of me like “DOC Hitler” and “admin ash” 

 

also yeah the suggestion linked in the post above is what I’d like to see implemented 

only love u know it  The best Warden there been is you indeed

[Sico]

-1