OBESE

Well if you check our OP, then you can see that the cars we support are only ones that goes with our style. On the list the most expensive car, if Im not mistaking costs 110k. So yeah, I understand what you mean and can assure you we are not like that. Our members might have more expensive cars, but that's for their private time use.

About the IRL getting shot if you wore the wrong colour, sure, if you walked in the wrong hood. So if you knew you had crips in the neighbouring area, then sure you did not wear red if you did not want to get shot, but not like - there are crips in LA size of town, so dont wear red in the whole LA. And what you said about the topic being targeted at Zetas, I don't think that it is just about them, but I can see why you would think so. At the same time, they are giving example and taking it to the most ridiculous levels, but there are others as well, like the recent post in SeaWeed where they literally rolled into Forum Drive Family's turf and shot them(with rp I guess) which just shows that it does happen even without Z's being involved.

What do you mean by - Im rich, so imma make a gang? At the moment of creating this gang I had 45k on my character.

I remember how Calaveras were kind of fighting and then changing colours cuz of you guys, but the thing is you said you moved to brighter red. Of course to pick a specific tone of colour that you represent is fine, but the issue in my opinion is when a gang, earned or not, claims the whole spectrum of colours. That is only understandable that in criminal work you take it or earn it, but it has to follow some sort of logic or go till some extent. If you take navy blue, you use navy blue, if you take baby blue, you use baby blue, not every single type of blue, red or green. The main issue I see is that it creates beef between groups that might not beef otherwise or have no real reason to beef as their territories, businesses do not intersect in no way. I do agree with this and have always like that. I do also understand that the representing colours of the gangs are like a proud aspect of it, so Im not totally against it. Just looking for some level of logic, considering the state of the server, of how logical life in the server is with random robberies in middle of a big town.

We have been around for a month now as a gang, but as our Lore says we care for our barrio(hood) so we hang out there, not around banks or other random places. We do our shit, we live our lives and grow step by step.

We have seen some attempts to street gangs, some are not around anymore, some are still rolling, but we hope to add another one of them on the map and hopefully a group that will survive the hunger games that this server is. BTW, we added visual vehicle list

I could see this to be implemented as addition to house. The garage size should not change, just the fact that garage would be accessible as well. Just have 4 different garage interiors for 1-4 spaces and that's it.

Greetings!

Oh sure thing, but then again, they not gonna drive to someones territory and shoot them due to colour or fuck with civilians who wears their colours in middle of a town you know?

From my personal experience I would say that once you're in the PD you would see some grouping up as players and maybe some bias things, but I really do not think it's at the recruitment process. The difference might be in the fact that 2 different people looked at the applications and one is more forgiving than other. Also it is hard to give constructive criticism on both applications as we just see the outcome, but cannot compare the actual applications/answers to have a better idea of what was wrong with his and your application.

So I was just browsing the forum and going through the player factions when I stumbled upon something that has been in the server for a while and in my opinion is dumb and unfair. Im talking about gang colours. Rarely any gang does not have colour, I would guess Clowns are actually the only ones without specific dress code or gang colour (might be wrong), but most of the server groups/gangs do have "their" colour and that leads to issues with other gangs that might be representing the same colour. If we follow the logic that we see on the server right now, where a gang claims a colour and that's it, it's theirs, then technically speaking we can only have 8 gangs on the server. We have 3 primary colours which are: Blue, Red, Yellow. Then we have 3 more secondary colours, which are: Purple, Orange, Green Of course we have two extra colours which are: Black, White Im not gonna go into tertiary colours as those are already in-between one of the mentioned colours and from experience I can tell, them don't fly well by the gangs that have claimed one of the 8 above listed colours, because anything that remotely remind of one of the primary or secondary colours is a no go. So that leads us to the fact that we can have maximum of 8 gangs on the server to not have conflict over colour, otherwise if you create a gang with any of the claimed colours you, unintentionally are putting your newly created gang at the wrong side of other gang and potential conflict if not even a war straight away without any other/real reason for conflict. That's like you creating your character and half of the server immediately hates you! So how fair and realistic it is for a gang to not only be hostile towards someone wearing "their" colours in their turf, but on the scale of the whole server? And where does it leads when the person wearing the colour is a civilian and has nothing to do with a gang? So let me see which would be the main gangs, that have claimed one of the colours: Blue - Los Zetas Yellow - Latin Kings, Vagos Red - Los Triads Green - The Irish Mob(not sure they still function), Forum Drive Families, SeaWeed Purple - La'Ultima Familia, Ballas Orange - The Wanted Black - The Marcello Family White - Not sure anyone uses white as that is basic colour This list is based on my memory as I have not followed the gangs on the server for some time, so feel free to update if anything is missing or wrong.

First of all I would like to say that I personally have been administrator and admin on many communities in my past and I know what burden the position is. I also understand that you often have to make unpopular decisions that will not go well, like that recent massive report against Irish Mob, where around 10+ people were punished. Now to the discussion of this topic - I do agree that sometimes the administration does not make the right decision due to a simple fact that in does not quite make sense if you consider the whole situation as it is. I do understand that there are rules, but there will never be rules tailored to every single situation, the rules are guidelines and to see how to apply the rule to the situation is upon the admin, that's why the admin is there. But I have rarely seen that admin would apply the rule individually to the individual situation. The most common thing you see is like mass production of a punishment, what I mean by "mass production" is that you look at the situation, tick some checkmarks and if you get at least 2 out of 3 checkmarks, then you issue the punishment, when in reality if you would consider the whole situation for real, then a different punishment, maybe just a warning, would be more appropriate. In no way Im saying that admins are doing bad job, because these cases are really case to case and most often they are pure rule breaking cases, but Im talking to individual cases where the situation was not so plain and straight forward that still did not get that whole situation consideration and was issued a punishment for hitting the chekmarks of a rule break.

Well the system is not as simple as you put it here. You do not go to jail every time you speed. You go to jail only if you exceed some specific speed over the normal which makes sense I think. If Im not mistaking, then you go to jail only if you go over 150km/h in the zones of 70km/h, so if you got a speeding ticket for 140km/h you just pay the fine and are free to go. The issue is that your friends allowed to gather the tickets without paying them right away and when you have specific amount of unpaid tickets, you get a warrant on you. It all makse sense, what does not make sense is people not understanding the system and saying that it is wrong and should be changed. Literally 1hr ago I did speed up to 201km/ph near Tequila and I knew it's a jail time. Right away I went to PD and accidentaly got another speeding ticket near PD. Still, went in, payed the fines, turned myself in and served the time. I do have another ticket now and I will pay for it soon and in the end of the day I dont have no unpaid tickets, I do not have no reason to arrest me and Im good. -1 What I can stand for is the fact that you spend time in jail and lose some amount of the fines, but the times you showed is not alot considering the amount you owe. To grind up 50-100k of tickets, you have to make at least 20 speedings and that just till 50k, and you think 1hr jail time is enough?

Claimed or not, still, you dont just roll in the town, make up a story and suddenly it's yours. Besides if any of the other gangs that have proven themselves to be serious organizations decide that they feel like there is reason behind the territory, they can fight for it. The city is not free space and various organisations operate or have their HQ's in different places.

Is the war with Los Vagos real, like with the actual gang on the server or that is just a story. If that is just a story then I would imagine you would have to worry about a different organisation who has been around Vespucci for a long time and have way bigger influence than the actual Los Vagos.

Greeting yet again! This time I come with a suggestion to add to one of the legal factions and more specifically - Downtown Cab Co. With one of the updates it was introduced that when at least one cab driver is on duty, you're not allowed to take out citybee (hope that has not changed, did not check) so due to that factor the Downtown Cab Co. has gain a lot of new customers and the demand for taxi has gone up quite a lot which leads to a sad reality that sometimes there are not enough cab drivers to take the taxi request right away. It is quite frustrating when you are driving a customer to it's location and it will take just couple of minutes before you can take the next request, but that might be too much for the client that did the request and is blindly awaiting for it to be accepted. It is quite annoying when you call for a taxi and then stand there for 3-4minutes not knowing will your request be taken and when. Suggestion The suggestion is simple - add an option for a cab driver to send a private message either directly or via dispatch to update the customer that you will accept and be on the way in few minutes. It could be something like a pm system, but in a rp way where the customer receives a message from the taxi dispatcher. It could have a command like /tru RequestID Message where /tru would stand for something like "taxi request update". Example: /tru 123 Hello Mr. Unknown, will be accepting your taxi request in 2 minutes. Thank you for your patience! I do not think that such update would be too hard as all the mechanic is in there either as pm, whisper, radio chat or faction chat, but it would really make it very nice for the players when such things happen. Thank you for your time! Kind Regards, OBESE

Well if you think about it then another server that I will not mention actually has such system implemented and has their own social media platform for IG characters and I must say it is quite fun and interesting thing to have and add you know. Could add some interesting rp on many coasts. For example if you're a gangster who likes to brag about having big weapon arsenal or loads of money in your pictures, police could decide to check you out etc. That's just something that popped into my mind right away, besides the usual social media stuff.

I feel what you say, but this seems like such a waste of time, because soon enough a police officer or even higher rank police employee will come and tell you that everything is peachy and you're dreaming. Nothing in Police work is OP and that police is actually struggling a lot.

Im glad you feel that way! What you said about your plans is something what I wanted to do when I join the server with my group of guys, but due to the situation back then it was not possible so we joined one of the big league players to gain the insight of the criminal elite world, then my people slowly disappeared one by one and now I myself am at a point where I dont fancy criminal rp as it's just constant gta online vanilla version. My character actually has Russian roots on his mothers side to which he feels way closer than the other side, as he grew up with only his mother. So it is very nice to see Russian or Slavic group being represented well with good plans.

I feel like Russian root groups should also create a Slavic syndicate and work closely together. Forget about the 90's and work together against the other groups.

Was one of the first people who owned an armour, spent 120k for 3 vests. Lost my first one in matter of 20min as I was on a bike taking a turn I touched a pole which not only destroyed all my armour, but also took my health down to be injured. Luckily got to sell my second armour for the import price of 40k. The last one is still at my house...gathering dust. The price is ridiculous and such armour should not be no luxury...as it is 25% armour, so technically it is light armour that would not be that hard to get. If there would be different available levels of armour, same as police has 50%, SWATS have 75%, then sure, do like 10k, 25k, 40k, but as many are saying 40k for 25% armour is ridiculous. Besides once you put it on, you cannot take it off and if police sees you in that armour, you go to jail. So it also gives a large risk to just lose it outside taking damage.

Oh I love this thread, please keep doing what you do and keep showing your interactions if you dont get sick of the trash that is going on the server. I hope to meet you and have a good rp!

You mentioned that you re-applied, so that means your application is behind all the first timers as they get the priority. So it all makes sense if your friend applied for the very first time, even after you and got in first.

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Looked at all of your examples - the only thing that they have in common is the two words "verbal warning" while none of the situations actually is close to mine. Example 1 - The actual shooter got 72hr ban, while verbal warning was given to his buddies who just pulled out guns. Example 2 - Both parties had their mistakes in the situation so instead of punishing both, they both got verbal warning. Example 3 - Same as example 2, both parties received verbal warning, not just the actual DMer. Example 4 - A genuine mistake is a genuine mistake and like the reporter said - the situation had no negative scenario for him. I feel like my reply after Serthon's apology was received as an attack rather than the fact that I have just lost some trust in administrations fairness. I did not find anything ironic in the fact that I do appreciate his apology, but that does not mean I have to take it or forgive. When you are someone who everyday is telling others that you cannot shoot with no KoS, without stating demands and allowing the other party enough time to respond to the demands and all other rules that the server has, I expect you to be able to follow them. Sure, you saying this was his first slip up, shit happens, I agree. Take it in consideration and don't give him harsh verdict, give him lowered sentence due to the fact, but please don't spit into everyone's face with a "verbal warning" which is literally nothing.