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True and I would say one word there or here for the effect if you use voice chat, does not harm no one, but having full conversations via voice in any other language, except English is not permitted.

As Matt Avens [GOV OFFICIAL] In no way I would support this organisations and would not suggest others to do, simply for the person who is this groups "Nominated Prime Minister". I have witnessed this individual to impersonate another colleague of his as a public servant and perform actions in name of the stolen identity. If we don't want no corruption in this town, especially to such high level, then do not support this organisation and it's nominees.

We definitely do. We have The Russian Mafia - We also have some Russian background characters like mine for example and some others. Just letting you know, you're not allowed to speak in Russian during your roleplay.

Right, I realised it has to do something with erp, but I hoped it has better use to it. Maybe to be able to erp without the text being seen too far, therefore protecting people who wants some erp in one of the bank rooms for some juicy action and not be swarmed by everyone outside.

Never used the command and am not aware of what exactly it does and stands for. Could anyone explain the exact meaning of this command and purpose, to see why this suggestion request exists?

Totally feel your pain. Some people tried to make up a group that historically were a gang in a specific area, therefore we tried to get some properties there as the group mainly hangs out in their neighbourhood. But like you said - mainly only houses in Vesspuci, Centeral LS and Vinewood sometimes comes up for sale. These less used areas do not sell for some reason. Here is the attempt to get anyone to sell in a specific area -

You dont waste good stuff you know Well, that part was added to the story really only after The Russians thread, based on some information that was put down there, but it will be there in the background, maybe as a nice plot twist at some point in the future.

Get to know some people, start talking about criminal activities in this town like civilian ,saying how bad the gangs are and neutrally try to find out info about the rooks, how they look like, where they usually hang out etc. But it all has to be ICly.

Feels bad man when you don't have your facts straight who was involved and who was the main players during both wars.

Self-made drug labs would make so much sense in terms of criminal roleplay which would also add to the PD rp, because at the moment there is no criminal growth. The best that the criminal group can achieve is becoming official which gives it's own benefit but that's all. +1

I mean just like the previous poster said - there have been wars and large ones. The last one, where we finally saw officials and mores specifically council to go against each other ended up to be a forum war, just like the previous one and it was won via forum and OOC methods. The biggest opposition to both, the only officials right now, was destroyed via OOC methods. Why? Because the server rules do not support "war" environment, which leads to the fact that the whole war is bunch of DM's, not from RP side, but from server rule side. By the current server rules there is no such thing as "gang association" so you treat every individual as individual. Of course you could target the person, same as any other civilian in the city, but if you put a person at gun point who is part of your rival gang and suddenly 5 individuals, who happens to be part of the same gang as the person you have pulled a gun on, comes around the corner, then you're toasted because you do not have reason to open fire on them, although you know what they will do and that they are from the same gang so action will be taken, while they at the same time do have valid reason to open fire at you because you are pointing a gun at their friend/fellow gang member. Then you get to the reality of what the war on the server is - financial war. The war will be won by those who have bigger financial stash and it goes money wise and weapon wise. The war on this server is like poker, where some players have 10k chips, some have 5k chips, some has 1k chips and some has only few hundreds. So those who has only few hundreds or even few thousands of chips can be bluffed with high stakes that makes them go all in. Of course there is possibility that they can play out their hand smart and even win the encounter, but the amount that the players with 10k chips will lose is nothing and in the end the high chip players will win because they will put high stakes until they get the winning hand. To add to this comparison, then while there is no war, the high stake players charge the low stake players, have split monopoly on weapons and just are sitting there like dragons on gold becoming richer and making more chips for the time the poker starts.

I saw what I saw.

Nah, police is working with them, Im pretty sure about it. The other day, was at a crime scene and these random people in blue, assuming zetas, rolled up and started to talk to one of the officers like they best buddies, then told all sorts of false information about me, like I was the one who committed the crime and that I had an assault rifle on me which Police officers at the scene decided to follow up and searched me based on these false accusations. Of course none of that was true and luckily police let me go, but the fact that Police was doing what them people in blue said proved that they are working together. Im sorry for you for being scammed, but unfortunately in this city you will not see justice...

A lot of people have been giving their negative experiences on constant robberies for no reason, the fact that gangs are ruling the streets, but somehow no one who plays criminal gave jack shit about the bad experiences that was being given to civilian players and new players on the server and now you think we should give a shit about the fact that you are not a smart criminal and play as you used to only this time you get a harsh punishment? Dont think so! Im happy for you all criminals sitting in prison for 8hrs. Makes my gameplay more relaxed and happier.

All these crybabies would be like:

Do you really have to ask this question? It's like any other stuff in RL when something involves an official face. Either it is pushed through really quick, due to public pressure or it is put aside until it is forgotten. Knowing that here you cannot do public pressure as people are too afraid to put their skin on the line, therefore possibly getting a backslash, then it's the second option - put it aside until it's forgotten.

Let the fun begin! It's the sound of Sher-iiifs!

What do you mean? We do use lowriders. Any specific car you have in mind?

His disconnect on this argument is because he does not understand that this sexism and harassment is targeted for OOC reasons, girl in game being a girl in RL. If that would be a thing for all the female characters and guys would keep doing that even there is a male behind the character, then I could agree that it is purely IC issue and that's it, but I know that players on this server are asking on discord is the character an actual girl and even asking for Instagram and snapchats at that point if she is, to see is she pretty one or not. So this all takes it to a different and totally OOC issue, considering that there are different levels of reason why the female character is targeted. In the end in most cases it ends up being that the harasser is more interested into the person behind the screen, than the character IG and that technically goes as OOC targeting and harassment.

Ahh yes, that is true and we have already met that problem with some of the first members who joined. But the issue in the previous GTA origin gangs that you mentioned has been the fact that in the end the leadership gave up as well. We hope we can find the core, which does not require more than 10 people and from there we can expand further and way easier. We predict that the hardest will be to find those 10 people who will dig the idea, the values and what we want to achieve for the server and sake of others over material values.

So what is your scepticism based on? What do you mean by current RP environment of the server?

You hit the nail on the head with this. This is why this group is not gonna become big in day or a week and we know that we will have a lot of leavers due to the fact that they will want that luxury life, that big money. Truth to be told we already had some of those and they left or were kicked. Our mission is to show example, stay with the lore, stay true to ourselves, not chase money, cars and numbers. It is going to be a long and hard process to weed out those who stick and those who don't, but we will be there, keeping it real haha.

In-character

Dear @Aldarine, I must say I am happy that finally a female is pointing this out and bringing it up as an issue on the server. When I started to play on this server, like 6 months go, I joined a big group and although we did not have many females I still saw the overall attitude when players find out someone is a real female playing a female character. It made me sick, because, sure it's a game, but it just went against what I believe in RL and I understood how tiring and hurtful it might get with the time, even considering it was all done ICly, it does weight on the OOC aspect as well as you're not just targeted due to the fact that your character is female, but especially because you are a female behind the screen as well, which is totally an OOC issue. I had a little chat with the leaders of that group to not support such way of communication against female characters and it was agreed, became an OOC rule in that organisation that I was part of. But that mainly was towards the female's who also were part of the group and sadly did not involve all of the female characters on the server. My point is that same as in RL, also in the server, it depends of who is bringing up the issue and who can affect the situation, who can actually do things. If I, as a male, would have done this thread, I would probably not get nowhere and just be called stupid, which was a thing when I talked about it, inside the group I mentioned before. So that is why I said Im happy that you did this thread as it has been bothering me as well, for a long time. Now the second bit of - who can change this or how can we change this? In my opinion it all comes down to the influential people on the server. The example they show to the community. If we look at the criminals, which probably is the majority part of the harassers, then it all comes down to the leadership. If the leadership says - we do not disrespect women or act like they piece of meat, then the members will follow that. But because the leaders do not do that or enforce it, the members just go through with it and do whatever they like. I guess a good example would be our friends JayGambles response on this thread where he cared more about the fact that someone was singling out criminals as those who does this, than the issue itself. So there we have it, the leader of most influential and strongest criminal organisation on the server, setting the example. Rules might be added, reports might be made, but as long as the dogs will not be controlled, they will stay dogs. When it comes to what advise I could give to you and all the other ladies on the server, then I really do not know what to say, because I have not personally had to deal with it, yes I have witnessed it a lot, but that is not the same. The best advice I could give is to try to find the right people, the right group, to hang out with, so that the good interactions grow and overgrow the amount of this harassment until it changes, if at all. Sadly it does end up to the fact that we as a community have to set an example and while there will be players who act like 15 year olds on viagra, it will be what it is. This goes down to a lot of issues on the server, not just this particular one. I hope that you have your fair share of people that give you the right amount of good quality rolepaly. If I happen to meet you on the server I will make sure to add to your experience as much as possible.