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Let the story of Diego and Gonzales be a lesson to all of us! Vato blessing!

Few days passed and we felt bad about the fact that we did not manage to party with our WCA friends last Friday, so yet again we decided to pack up some boxes of the best Mexican Tequila and of course enough mota for everyone. Everyone gathered together and were off to meet up with the WCA. We were so happy when upon arriving the WCA guys were all there. Of course this was a surprise party and they did not expect, but we all know that surprise parties are the best ones. We handed out the tequilas, gave the bags of mota to the WCA, cuz they are the highest class rollers and they know how to roll a good blunt. It was a blast and we all partied so hard, but I guess WCA boys were not fit for the tequila we brought, cuz all of them got so drunk, so quick, that they started to pass out, left and right, near the pool from all the partying and drinking. I mean party is a party, so we wanted some of that well rolled mota, but the guys we gave the bags to, who were suppose to roll them for all of us, decided to try it and yet again...the cheap stuff they've been smoking daily, was nothing like the mota we brought, so it was too strong for them, so they got relaxed beyond the measures and fell asleep. All of that kind of left us disappointed as they would always act tough, but when it came to real partying they were done so quick. There was nothing to do as the party was over, but we are good friends, so we decided to give them another surprise for when they woke up and do a check-ups on all their cars. They're already poor with spending the money on the cars, so we knew that servicing them hits their pockets hard. One of our guys knew this new mechanic shop where you could get good discounts, so we brought them cars there...must say - them mechanics seemed a little shady... We did not wait for the mechanics to check all the cars as that would take ages. We gave them contact information of the WCA boys and left them cars there to be picked up by the owners when the checks were done...

Prise the holy way of Vato for giving us the place to gather all our ese's and mamacitas!

It was a nice and quite Friday evening and all the NLA familia was getting together to have another great night together. It was Friday, so it could not be a just hangout at the Taco shop or familia dinner. It had to be a PARTY! Obviously parties are the best when you are with your friends, so it was decided to go and meet up with the close friends of us - WCA. On the way there we were especially excited to catch up with our ex-familia member - Sophia. We knew she's in good hands as everyone knows that once you go black you never go back. But sadly when we arrived at our friends motel apartments where they all lived, due to a fact that all their money was spent on fast cars and they could not afford even a low class house, just some motel apartments, no one was around. Carlos made a call, but no one was picking up the phone. Probably our WCA friends were busy at their work or clubs. We heard that they have been very actively assisting Los Santos Police Department with anything they could, some of them were taking their chances in financial sector, that's why the constant seeing around the bank and of course some of them enrolled into cooking classes and management courses. Hard working individuals, not available even on Fridays. Other activities comes first than hanging out. But to not make this trip a waste of fuel and time we decided to make a NLA familia picture for next years Christmas Cards as we had a feeling our friendship wont die at least till next year. As our WCA friends were having their midlife crisis, joining these clubs and spending money on fast cars and big guns, which obviously was a poor attempt to fill out that feel of emptiness, NLA boys and girls decided to go back to the barrio and enjoy their time as they used to - with some tequila and tacos. On the way back to barrio we had to re-stock for the street party and buy enough supplies for everyone so a stop at Sammy's was made. Sammy is a good guy, own that little groceries store and is not even able to harm a fly, sadly, but a lot of people take advantage of it. We always try to support him by buying our supplies from his store. As El Patron was paying for the tequilas and tacos to Sammy, he remembered it was today when the taxes to The Council were due. Would be a bad image to be late or show up totally wasted, especially knowing El Patrons mouth when drunk, so a stop at the new Zetas HQ was next, before the party. Lucky for us Bruce happened to be there as well, so two rabbits with one shot. Donations were done and it was time for the PAARTEEY! Arriving at the barrio everyone parked up and gathered in the middle of the road, tequilas were handed out, tacos were prepared and everyone started to enjoy their day. We forgot to put up a speaker, but it was a nice time of having some chats and laughs in general, especially when some of us started to get tipsy. Although we had a great time, we wished we could have spent the day with our WCA friends and maybe show off all the toys we had prepared for them...

Im not ignoring your comment and I do take in to consideration anyone and everyone, that is why I am replying. That is the thing...no one is dictating us, that's why we are in it - fighting, we not gonna bend to some people that dont know where to put their money and weapons and cannot offer anything more than that. The vato style is not left behind, we just adapted to the war to be able to fight in it and be where we are atm. But it is true that there is not the same rp from us that there was before and it is simply because we are not going to not fight or put ourselves in disadvantage - afterall we are proud Latinos. Our stuff still is not that fancy. Some elegy's, a contender, some drags and few sultans. Besides most of those cars were part of our rp before as we were racing and we via roleplay built them. I would hope that people would understand what we are saying, what we are trying already and stop telling that we are the bad guys or that we have nothing to lose so we decide to break rules or that we are the aggressors in general. It is not true! Look at how we present ourselves in this thread. Not once we have said an ill word about WCA, Vory or anyone we have had a conflict with. I dont think any other faction has CKed two of its members for rp, not because someone got sick of playing. We keep it real in every big update we have and we never lie. We did not even update for a long time because the war rp is not something we felt we should put on our thread. But everyone has their limit of patience and we reached ours by reading one sided stories and false accusations from the other sides, therefore feeding false information and damaging our factions image in eyes of others cuz they did not know our story.

I hope you can see how funny your comment is when you are representing the gang that literally is the reason why we cannot go back to what you supposedly liked. Our vision has not changed of what we want and are offering the server. Atm it's just people who are too salty to let it go and keeps the ball rolling. So how can you or any other of your organisation members comment about what we used to be and how good that was or anything about how it is right now, when we are not the ones interested in continuing what is happening and are only playing the game you push on us. I find your leadership to be with some sort of personal issues, would it be OOC or IC, that is the main problem of everyone doing their own stuff.

Oh @alexalex303 you already lost one promising faction under your leadership that became official, dont do it again for god knows what reasons. You know what they say - only a fool makes the same mistake twice. And when it comes to reports how come so many can be made against a faction that is lead by two people that are part of administration? As many as there were rejected, as many were accepted. Bless your soul tho!

Considering the fact that in the statement above it was very clearly made that NLA are the bad guys who does not have to care about being official and can just say "fuck it" therefore portrayed as the aggressors of the conflict, even suggesting (directly attacking NLA) that groups like us should be disbanded for no reason and WCA is put as this poor faction that is trying to become official, but so many obstacles are put in the way that they dont want, and the fact that me saying that we are not the ones keeping this conflict alive, as we have approached other side several times and have been denied every single time, I have to post this video as proof what is the actual situation. @GOAT I dont mind you talking about the issues on the server and all the reports because I have been saying this for long time that sadly, but the server does not support war/rivalry environment. But please, be real and honest about everything you say or mention, even as an example. I think you should look for the issue inside your own group that you represent and maybe make sure they dont want to do stuff that hurts both sides and maybe start understanding diplomacy and that not everything is "must win" and that sometimes it is ok to be "it's a tie". As you put it "WCA and NLA are currently locked in a feud right now" - well we are the prisoners of your doings, because you have the keys to unlock the fued and let it go.

None taken. And I totally agree with you. I was just saying that when big wars happens, people get reckless and salty and then the reports fly back and forth and the war ends when plenty of people are already punished and often banned and the numbers are not just there no more, instead it ending icly via diplomacy. Tbf I feel like a lot of people on the server has false understanding of what is a good diplomacy and have that "must win" attitude when it comes to diplomacy. Like there is no other way to end anything as "me the winner" in terms of destroying the other group totally. I know like 90% of gangs have done it and Im not gonna talk about the fact itself, but I wish that when diplomatic talks would take place, there would be that mutual respect to not touch the other side during it. You know, like back in the old days, two armies would get to the battle place, then the leaders with some other knights would ride in the middle of the battlefield...give their demands or whatever. Agree or disagree and go back to their side and only then start the attack. Just ruins the rp of diplomacy when you are brave enough to go to meet with the enemy to talk it out, but you know that there is a massive chance you will be ridiculed by the other side. It feels like kids are in charge instead of grownups who understand politics. All of this is what I dislike and find to be poor rp. Those who have dealt with me when it comes to diplomacy knows that I do talk about the issue if we have. I do try to end it on neutral terms. I do believe there are valid demands and then there are ridiculous demands that are based on god knows what. For me it always has to make sense when it comes to the rp.

@kris giggs after reading your responses I am 100% agreeing with everything you say. When it comes to NLA and WCA relationships then for me it is a mystery. At least from my POV and from all the attempts we have done, it seems like there is no wish from the WCA leadership to stop what is happening. I can guarantee 100% that none of the NLA people wants this forum war or the war in general as it serves no purpose. When it comes to gang relationships it is very important, at least for me, what do you do with your faction thread. I personally love a good story. I love when you follow a character and organisations development. What I mean is that like drake said "We started from the bottom, now we are here" not "We started...oh we already here!". I also do not like dishonest information and when a faction is trying to show false image. Maybe not 100% false, but at least to some level that misleads whoever is reading in thinking in a specific way about the group. You mentioned the good old times when NLA was actually acting like a street gang. Lowriders, taco's, tequila, block etc. That changed with the conflicts. I mean we were forced to change to be able to survive and fight back. I did a nice, brief update on everything on our faction thread called "voice mail to Doza" you can listen to it if you havent to see our side at least. We honestly want to go back to as it was and we have tried and I hope that no one will say we havent, because you will not see no WCA leadership ridiculed by NLA after they have reached out, while you will see that from WCA's side. I know I am focusing a lot on WCA vs NLA because that is the main war right now and the reason this topic was made. I've been through 4 big wars and I know first hand that all of those wars have been always OOC wars to a big extent and mainly were won OOC not ICly. Knowing that I dont want this one to end or go the same way, but for that to change we need two sides to agree to stop it and we are half way there...

You have weird understanding of what is making something a personal situation. Didn't the OP talk about people getting banned or punished for stuff that happened in heat of the moment and was not really a purposeful rule break? Im pretty sure he did, so how is sharing your experience about a situation that OP mentioned, making it about himself? It seems like you're just salty and looking for any way how to pick on people from NLA. That's why you did that report on him when your faction members where breaking the same rule in the same fight. Did they got punished for it? No. Did you report them? No. So dont sit here all innocent and point fingers. But as you pointed out those three reports then look at them again. First was not denied per say as admin decided to give warning this time and agreed that the rule was broken, which technically counts as passed report. The second report he decoded to drop, so there was no ruling anyway, so saying it was denied is like claiming credit for something you did not do. The third one is the only one that was denied and rightfully so. Now to the OP. I totally agree with most of the things you said and there have been several attempts to deal with the conflict between our two exact organisations via IC and OOC. Sadly it just felt that OOC and IC one side wants to keep it going for some reason...guess which one. The points I do not agree with is the mention of if someone cannot get official they should be disbanded. Disbanded how? Not being able to post their side of the rp or rp in general? Have you asked a question what lead to why someone is refused to be official? Is it anything to do with the rp they bring to the server or there are other reasons? I think that your first line, the disclaimer that it is only from your pov is very much explenaining why you think or see some things as you do. Because you have no idea what is happening on the other side which leads to a question - are you willing or even interested to figure it out? Although this is not suppose to be just about WCA and NLA situation, we all know that it is. All I can say that we never asked for it, yet we were the ones trying to stop it several times, but all we were met with was "must win everything" attitude.

That's some fancy hood if it has camera protections muhahahah....this is just brilliant. LMAO.

Hector "El Doza" Mendoza was one of the El Patrons and El Cerebro's childhood friends and one of the founders of NLA who sacrificed himself in a conflict with The Council in hopes it will allow his familia to get together and figure the things out. The truthful brief explanation of everything that has happened. No fuss and no bullshit. True story! Time Stamps 00:28 - The Council 02:44 - WCA situation 04:38 - Latin Kings 05:00 - The Council vs The Wanted 05:19 - The Vory 07:02 - The Misfits, The Ballas vs The Vory and WCA 08:05 - Inner conflict 08:26 - WCA and current conflict 09:44 - Last words and goodbyes

It's all good. I think we should make a large story update as well, to show the things from our perspective, involving everything around the war and the union of Ballas, Misfits and NLA.

A very interesting shift of events and sadly there is only that one who is left behind fighting on his own. Will see where the shit goes!

Love it! Good and original and the main thing - non violent faction.

You just offended all the gender neutral people haha

Damn, look how far street gangs have come! Now they all lawyery and shit...issuing and signing contracts between them gangbangers hahah. I hope that there is small shrift somewhere sayin "If you decided to leave the gang without a notice or break any of the rules and codes listed above in this contract, you are agreeing that you will be shot, shanked or killed in any other manner." hahha

Gonna tell you what I already tolds Safyaan - I understand that ICly stuff might seem as you wrote, but all Im asking is to use your wording right. Don't say "certainly" when you dont know. Don't make us the bad ones and tell that we started it all if you're not 100% sure about it. Realise that something might have happened before you got involved or saw the first attack, maybe someone fucked up for you and what you thinks was the beginning was already an aftermath. For example, in that fight at the lab, when you wrote about it in the post, you did not write that you had an easy fight and that you just destroyed us. No, you wrote how it was - you won that fight, but you also had fallen ones. And I appreciate that, dont get me wrong. Like I said, Im happy to see good rp and story. My only issue in your post is your wording that states false information like truth.

Im talking about the fact that in this OOC thread they are lying about how the conflict started and what was the reason. I don't care that they call us Mexicans instead of Latinos, like we do. I dont care that they call us street gang, although we refer to ourselves as familia. What I care about is not fabricating information. This thread should not be metagamed, so why lying about what really happened?

Avon is that you? hahaha just messing. Good development, good rp and stories are always welcomed from everyone, so I appreciate when it happens. Good job!

As much as I appreciate good RP story, I do not appreciate false information that is set on a group that I am part of. Like you said in the post - we are Latino(not Mexicans) and we are hood family (not street gang) and we are not Mafia, so you accusing us of attacks on you for colours you wearing and not wanting to talk is false as we do not care what colours you wear, cuz we stand apart from you guys anyways + you drive different coloured cars, and we had no business or interest in you guys.