vx3r Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I’d also like to add that scamming should be against the rules. People in real life don’t sign and contract then steal a car and keep it? It just isn’t realistic! You wouldn’t see someone selling a car you sign contract and then take the car with pay just isn’t realistic and it ruins RP If you want this rule added up vote this suggestion Should you be allowed to scam in a NCZ Regards Charlie green Edited March 12, 2020 by vx3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navster Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 -1 Scamming is real, it’s also illegal IC to have your own contracts as it’s tax evasion. If you get scammed, it’s your own fault.. not the rules fault 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayta Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 -1 IC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy hutchingson Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) -1 scamming does happen in real life on phone door step scamming etc etc etc its illegal yes but does happen Edited March 12, 2020 by tommy hutchingson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyMayhem Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, vx3r said: I’d also like to add that scamming should be against the rules. People in real life don’t sign and contract then steal a car and keep it? It just isn’t realistic! You wouldn’t see someone selling a car you sign contract and then take the car with pay just isn’t realistic and it ruins RP If you want this rule added up vote this suggestion Regards Charlie green Okay i agree with you a little not on making scamming against the rule but that yeah you don't sign a contract and then dont get what you signed for. But its all about RP, if you get scammed go to the police like you would IRL. If you sign a contract and they take what you signed for maybe ask them OOC if they RP'd that it was a fake contract. I think in this situation its just lack of RP Edited March 12, 2020 by QuirkyMayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I don’t want it completely to be against the rule I think at a NCZ you shouldn’t be allowed to scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquan Smith Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 +1, there's a rule that people can do /anything/ illegal in NCZ but scamming is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navster Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Id like to add one more thing in real life if someone scammed your car off you it would count as theft and the insurance company would cover you wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimo Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Navster said: Id like to add one more thing in real life if someone scammed your car off you it would count as theft and the insurance company would cover you wouldn't they? Same thing IC. It's illegal and there's RP to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Scamming should be against the rules of a NCZ so you can’t scam in a NCZ give me your opinions on what you think of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marca Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Making up contracts to avoid tax is also a crime and shouldn't be done in a NCZ. Also an IC issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punched Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 -1 Im just gonna leave this here: https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/viewtopic.php?f=641&t=39670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 There needs to be a risk to your tax avoidance and other actions. If you are protected by OOC rules, you are just preventing RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandroXiX Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreMetal Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 The real issue with the scam rule is that it is not even in the rule book. It's in an obscure forums post that is hard to find even when you are looking for it.. definitely not great for newer players who do not know better (and I am sure a lot of veteran players too). Rule book definitely needs to be updated in either the NCZ and/or player theft section(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted March 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, TreMetal said: The real issue with the scam rule is that it is not even in the rule book. It's in an obscure forums post that is hard to find even when you are looking for it.. definitely not great for newer players who do not know better (and I am sure a lot of veteran players too). Rule book definitely needs to be updated in either the NCZ and/or player theft section(s). +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenichis Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 -1 This would lead to metagaming with people saying "lets go to the bank before we do this deal cause you can't scam me there." You can solve it IC anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus_ Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 +1/-1 I understand both sides here and agree. On one hand, scamming is a crime, and it is literally a No Crime Zone. On the other hand, there's plenty of ways to solve scamming ICly instead of implementing it in the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted March 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 if you cant do CRIME in a NCZ why should you be allowed to scam> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangowilde Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just to clarify the contract and tax evasion point, couldn't you simply make the contracted payments via wire transfer? I thought those were taxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaim Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 It should be allowed, or else people are gonna use the rules to avoid IC scams. it can happen in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Even if the way people scam in-game is very unrealistic, scamming exists and you can easily avoid it. Edited March 14, 2020 by TheCactus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimo Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 10:25 PM, Devonte said: +1 I think it is kinda contradicting to allow a crime in a zone for no crimes. you're committing a crime already by doing it without getting taxed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesi Maquin Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
