Jellay Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) When we want to remove guns from a non-injured person IC'ly we have 2 options: 1. We have to ooc uncuff them and they have to drop the weapon and ooc cuff them again, which takes really long and sometimes brings weird and non-realistic situations. 2. We have a command /takeguns and /takeillegal, which results in immediate removal of all guns and all illegal contents on somebody. The items taken here will completely dissapear and can not be rp'd with anymore. I am suggesting that when we use these commands, the guns and illegal items appear in the inventory of the officer/deputy using the command. This creates a more efficient scene, but also gives more RP possibilities. The ooc uncuffing and cuffing situation is just unnecessary if we change the /takeguns and /takeillegal command. This will give Law Enforcement more chances of actually checking registrations on guns, but will also make sure that criminals eventually can steal their guns back from an injured officer. I think this would be easily implemented and beneficial for both LE and Criminals and will just make RP more streamlined. EDIT: I am aware that this has been mentioned before in another post, but I thought it would be good to make a different suggestion purely surrounding these commands. The last one was in May 2019. Edited January 24, 2020 by Jellay 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaesarSeizure Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msato Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 +1 This would allow for recovery of weapons taken from people along with law enforcement potentially being able to store/catalogue the confiscated weapons if they chose to do so. Literally zero downside to this and it makes no rp sense that the items vanish into thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 +1 for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantas Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 +1 Most officers don't use this command from what I've seen as a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickclack Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) +1 yea also the command should only be used if the suspect is restrained and frisked. You can't just use the command without even knowing if they're carrying any unless you already saw it. Edited January 24, 2020 by clickclack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawpi Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I had a situation where the suspect and I agreed on OOC uncuff and drop, little did I know, he pulled out a gun and shot me. To prevent this, this command is necessary even if it was a rule breach. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomvd682 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hoxton_Curry said: / / 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magz Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 -1 reason it takes the guns and destroyes them is so PD can't pocket them for themselves. There is no reason why them getting destroyed on taking them off someone is a problem. Would only be a problem if the officer would be trying to keep them to try feed a crim character or somthing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punched Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Magz said: -1 reason it takes the guns and destroyes them is so PD can't pocket them for themselves. There is no reason why them getting destroyed on taking them off someone is a problem. Would only be a problem if the officer would be trying to keep them to try feed a crim character or somthing. There are regular checks on PD members to ensure that does not occur. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, I believe people were able to drop guns without being un-cuffed first in the past. Either way this seems like a great addition +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy. Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 To be honest as someone who was SD for around 5-6 months. And DOC before that for the same time. I think /dropguns (as a new command) should drop all the guns you have on you, onto the floor. This would help Law enforcement. I don't think /takeguns /takeillegal should store the gun in inventory. This is a method to utilise and remove weapons from the person and server. What you could change is, when you do the command, the items that vanish also comes up in text so it tells you what they had on them, so you can still add the correct charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 +1 The command in its current state is unusable and kind of unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramz Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 +1 /takeguns means no idea of ammo, attachments, fingerprints, serial numbers. I typically use it if they only have a melee weapon and not a gun, to fast-forward through the ooc uncuff and drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gramz said: +1 /takeguns means no idea of ammo, attachments, fingerprints, serial numbers. I typically use it if they only have a melee weapon and not a gun, to fast-forward through the ooc uncuff and drop. Exactly, same. Edited March 2, 2020 by TheCactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technocyte Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 5:02 PM, dawpi said: I had a situation where the suspect and I agreed on OOC uncuff and drop, little did I know, he pulled out a gun and shot me. To prevent this, this command is necessary even if it was a rule breach. +1 ^Seen this many, many times, it's not an unusual occurance. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorShaw Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 It would make quite a bit of sense +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HobGoblin Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) On 1/25/2020 at 12:35 AM, Magz said: -1 reason it takes the guns and destroyes them is so PD can't pocket them for themselves. There is no reason why them getting destroyed on taking them off someone is a problem. Would only be a problem if the officer would be trying to keep them to try feed a crim character or somthing. We don't pocket the guns. When we take the guns they are put into evidence. If the gun just vanishes then how are we supposed to check the serial number or check or attachments? +1 for the commands giving the officer the stuff. Stops OOC uncuffs and saves a lot of time. Iv had situations where it doubled the arrest due to the person not dropping the weapons after a OOC uncuff. Edited March 2, 2020 by HobGoblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 1:35 AM, Magz said: -1 reason it takes the guns and destroyes them is so PD can't pocket them for themselves. There is no reason why them getting destroyed on taking them off someone is a problem. Would only be a problem if the officer would be trying to keep them to try feed a crim character or somthing. You don't understand how OOC corruption works, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WobblierDog15 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 +1 . This would literally make things super efficient and more RP-like than OOC un cuffing. Don’t see why it hasn’t been added yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 +1 From a law enforcement point. All items are evidence until proven otherwise. Scriptly deleting a weapon, sure, deletes it, but whoever that weapon was stolen from won't have the option of getting it back now at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
