kenichis Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 Hopefully something happens, however I believe that massive rulebreaks should still go punished. This should only be for punishments given as a new player or under 25K EXP. After 25K EXP I find it strange if you still don't understand the rules. Personally, I know that I broke a lot of rules as a new player but got lucky. I hope people who were less fortunate than me gets cut some slack. +1
Vinny Loreti Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) +1 Edited January 11, 2020 by Vinny Loreti
TheCactus Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) +1 I think that people should get jailed for more time and perma banned less often. 24h instead of 1 for a DM sounds fair, makes you think about your actions. Being banned for months after a 60 mins ajail isn't proportional at all. Edited January 17, 2020 by TheCactus
Prezeey Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 +1 Would love to see more people to roleplay coming back
cIaus Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 +1 to this mass unban so we can have fun at the drug labs and chopshop again please
ThatOneZoey Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Massive +1, i actually suggested a similar system in a reply a while back and would like to see such a thing implemented. the idea that two mistakes can get you PERMAED even if they where months or years apart is absurd. MORE ROLEPLAY LESS RULEPLAY PLEASE thank you 1
Jediah Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 THE BIGGEST +1 i had a couple non rps and fear rps bcus i come from fivem and rp isnt serious on there an i was a new player, but agree 100% to this
moment Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Damn hit em with a good suggestion, +1.
Osborn Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 9 hours ago, cIaus said: mass unban no lol 2
Phil McGee Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Posted January 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mopop said: -1 As the first -1 just out of curiosity may I ask your thoughts on it? 2 hours ago, FatherOsborn said: no lol I'm taking that as a +1
Bala Posted January 17, 2020 Report Posted January 17, 2020 I covered this a little on my discussion topic but I feel like the way it's setup, if you a criminal and you're actively fighting people, punishments are almost a given at some point. You only have to shoot somebody in the heat of the moment or not act a certain way when you've got a gun on you and six hours later on are on the forums six hours later explaining yourself. In PD, it's a lot easier. You just to have to be able to justify the use of force. You only shoot when you or someone else is in danger. You are never actively looking to kill someone, so there is a safety blanket there. Criminals don't have that and they will get into situations where it's kill or be killed but if they don't act right in that moment, they are screwed. I do PD and WCA right now and I can only half-criminal, because any punishment I get will affect me on PD. Depending on the punishment, I think if you go a certain amount of time staying out of trouble, you should be able to apply to get a punishment overturned, even if it was legitimate and the appeal was rejected. You don't want to let people off too easy but at the same time, they are more willing to work positively with a more considerate punishment system. No reason why most player can't alter their behaviour and make amends for past mistakes. That being said if it's clear that a person can't conform to the rules of the server, they should be permanently banned and never allowed back. Playing with bad players, makes more bad players and a bad community. The process must be reasonable and transparent, one we are all subject to and all aware of. 2
Amaim Posted January 17, 2020 Report Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, GOAT said: I covered this a little on my discussion topic but I feel like the way it's setup, if you a criminal and you're actively fighting people, punishments are almost a given at some point. You only have to shoot somebody in the heat of the moment or not act a certain way when you've got a gun on you and six hours later on are on the forums six hours later explaining yourself. In PD, it's a lot easier. You just to have to be able to justify the use of force. You only shoot when you or someone else is in danger. You are never actively looking to kill someone, so there is a safety blanket there. Criminals don't have that and they will get into situations where it's kill or be killed but if they don't act right in that moment, they are screwed. I do PD and WCA right now and I can only half-criminal, because any punishment I get will affect me on PD. Depending on the punishment, I think if you go a certain amount of time staying out of trouble, you should be able to apply to get a punishment overturned, even if it was legitimate and the appeal was rejected. You don't want to let people off too easy but at the same time, they are more willing to work positively with a more considerate punishment system. No reason why most player can't alter their behaviour and make amends for past mistakes. That being said if it's clear that a person can't conform to the rules of the server, they should be permanently banned and never allowed back. Playing with bad players, makes more bad players and a bad community. The process must be reasonable and transparent, one we are all subject to and all aware of. I totally agree with you, however no need to create another tiring process of appealing just put an automatic system which fairly does it, for example if 120 hours of playtime has passed on a player with no punishments/warnings given then 1 old punishment is overturned. (120 hours is an average of 2hours daily/2 month 4hours daily/month) using playtime as an indicator instead of dates as someone can go inactive for a month which wont mean he is not breaking rules anymore but just away.
Phil McGee Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Posted January 17, 2020 12 hours ago, GOAT said: I covered this a little on my discussion topic but I feel like the way it's setup, if you a criminal and you're actively fighting people, punishments are almost a given at some point. You only have to shoot somebody in the heat of the moment or not act a certain way when you've got a gun on you and six hours later on are on the forums six hours later explaining yourself. In PD, it's a lot easier. You just to have to be able to justify the use of force. You only shoot when you or someone else is in danger. You are never actively looking to kill someone, so there is a safety blanket there. Criminals don't have that and they will get into situations where it's kill or be killed but if they don't act right in that moment, they are screwed. I do PD and WCA right now and I can only half-criminal, because any punishment I get will affect me on PD. Depending on the punishment, I think if you go a certain amount of time staying out of trouble, you should be able to apply to get a punishment overturned, even if it was legitimate and the appeal was rejected. You don't want to let people off too easy but at the same time, they are more willing to work positively with a more considerate punishment system. No reason why most player can't alter their behaviour and make amends for past mistakes. That being said if it's clear that a person can't conform to the rules of the server, they should be permanently banned and never allowed back. Playing with bad players, makes more bad players and a bad community. The process must be reasonable and transparent, one we are all subject to and all aware of. Pretty spot on to be honest. Having played from both perspectives its so easy to rack up punishments doing criminal RP. And people saying it wont happen if you follow the rules its not always that simple. Its up to x admins interpretation of the rules to a certain point. I would also agree with the punishments voided being automatic if it did happen.
