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  1. Player(s) being reported: ID 38 Date of interaction reported: 10/7/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1594423675 Your characters name: Philip Darling Other player(s) involved: ID 143 Charles Mcwhiliker, Havi Rank Specific rule(s) broken: 9. Non-Roleplay (NRP) Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. How did the player break the rule(s)? Hello, so I was at the pier enforcing mask laws when I saw Charles Mcwhiliker with a firearm. I know that he has no gun license as I had arrested him in the past. Upon confronting Charles about his firearm and attempting to search him. He started to run away, and I simply stopped him and called for my partner (Havi Rank) to come help me search him. I had no intention on arresting him at that moment, just get him to stop for a search. I had never said that he was under arrest, nor did I attempt to arrest him in anyway. Player 38 sees me stop Charles and then runs me over with his car, in a highly populated area, in front of 3 other officers who were standing opposite of me. I believe this action is Non-RP and potentially VDM. I believe it should be classified as non-rp and unrealistic for this reason: The player sees me stop his friend for a firearm. This is a 30 minute charge at worst, but more than likely just a confiscation of the weapon and a stern talking too. So player 38 attempts to murder an officer, in a highly populated pier for a 30 minute offense, but really just for attempting to detain his friend for a search. If that's not unrealistic, then I'm not sure what is. I also believe this is VDM. If a player can just run a cop over because they think that the cop will arrest that player's friend, then cops will be getting DM'd/VDM'd in nearly every situation. Sure, I had my taser out and pointed at Charles, but at that point I had no intention on arresting him. Just to stop him from running any further to detain him for a search. This type of behavior at such a public place with so many players sets a terrible example of how people should RP with each other. ID 38 was adamant in /b he did no wrong. Thank you, Evidence of rule breach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNsTCxqhzPI&feature=youtu.be
  2. You were stopped for wearing a mask in public. You then proceeded to walk up the steps outside the bank exposing your entire back to me, meaning your gun was on full display. I attempted to explain this over PMs but you did not seem keen on listening.
  3. Hey Roland, I was unaware that was you in the cruiser as you had the mask back on. Firstly, your video takes place several minutes after you initially pick him up. Is there any reason for that? It seems you have cut the first 3 minutes out of the video, as your video only shows you picking him up from the alleyway. Secondly, how did you know he was in the alleyway, your video shows you running to your vehicle away from the bank. You don't receive any radio chatter, nor do you talk on the radio at all. Thirdly, is there any reason why you're audio is completely muted? I know that you have the capabilities of recording audio, because you have provided evidence in the past with audio. Why have you removed it? Ps: Sorry @Philoop I didn't see your response until I posted that.
  4. Player(s) being reported: Teejay Brockton (ID 329), ID 74, ID 22 @Nettz Date of interaction reported: 29/6/20 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1593481924 Your characters name: Philip Darling Other player(s) involved: Havi Rank Specific rule(s) broken: 7. IC and OOC Interactions Players are required to remain in-character (IC) at all times. Only administrators are allowed force pause RP or investigate rule breaches. 8. Non-Roleplay (NRP) Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do. 9. Metagaming (MG) Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head. 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger: • When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. How did the player break the rule(s)? So, Havi Rank and I were at the bank doing mask enforcement. We came across ID 329 Teejay Brockton who had a mask on and a gun on his back. We asked him to remove the mask and he removed it with no bother and when we requested his ID, he also complied. Upon handing us his license, I saw that he had no firearms permit and this is basically where the non-rp/metagaming/fear RP begins. To make this easier to digest for the staff who are reading through the report I will break it down claim by claim: METAGAMING/MIXING CLAIM - Almost immediately after I tell him that he's under arrest and start reading his rights he goes dead silent and is unresponsive to our verbal RP. This is where I believe the metagaming starts, and though I can't prove it, I believe that he was contacting his friend ID 74 and/or ID 22 to come pick him up. He goes onto say "hold on, I'm in my head for a second" which if anyone isn't aware is basically saying they're AFK or not going to be responding in game due to something OOC. From the moment I tell him that he has unlicensed firearm (see 00:32-1:02 in my video) he is completely unresponsive, not moving his character. At 1:02 he returns to say "hold on, I'm in my head for a second" and then he finally becomes fully responsive again at around 1:11 in my video. As I said above I believe during this time that he was contacting his friend ID 74, because after 20 seconds or so of ID 329 being unresponsive and not complying with us, I taze him and he immediately starts to run to ID 74 who has his vehicle ready for pickup at the bank. ID 74 wasn't at the bank prior to this that I saw, and he only arrived after Teejay Brockton was "in his head for a second". You can see this take place from 1:22-2;00 ish in my video. It's also worth it to note that another player tried to come and pick up Teejay (ID 329), but it's possible that ID 74 told him, so I'm not sure if he was metagaming. Also another thing he does constantly throughout this video is borderline mix IC/OOC saying stuff like "hold on, I'm in my head for a second", or typing in /b I'm waiting on an admin and then saying "Hold up! I'm sitting here and I'm waiting for ..." in game (see 2:22-2:42 in my video), is completely immersion breaking and I believe falls into the category of mixing. To conclude the metagaming point, I believe ID 374, ID 74, and ID 22 were using 3rd party communications to relay IC information (I.E picking Teejay up at the bank) and get an in game advantage from said 3rd party communications. ID 374 never communicates on the radio throughout this whole thing, and you can't see ID 74 or ID 22 communicate via the radio either. FEAR RP CLAIM - Moving onto the Fear RP claim, I believe this is pretty self evident. After the metagaming took place and ID 329 tried to run away even after being tazed twice. I then pulled my real firearm on him and despite this he still tried to get in his friends car, only to be stopped by Rank who tazed him (see 1:55-2:07 in my video). After a few seconds, he attempts to pause RP then run and try to get into ID 22's vehicle. ID 22's vehicle was turned off, I demanded at point blank gun range for him to get out of the vehicle since he had just tried to pick ID 329 up. Instead after his friend gets tazed again outside of the car, ID 22 turns the vehicle on and drives away, despite a gun being pointed directly at him (see 2:42-3:02 in my video). Pretty clear fear RP on ID 22's part, and I believe it should be fear RP on ID 329's part due to the fact that I also had a gun pointed at him and he tried to run into someones vehicle. A few minutes later near the end of my video we have 2 guns pointed at ID 329 telling him to get on his knees, he once again becomes unresponsive until he runs away into his friends vehicle who pulls into the alley at the perfect time that ID 329 starts running (see 4:12-till the end). To conclude the fear RP point, I believe ID 22 broke fear RP by not complying with my demands while he was in a vehicle that the engine off and I had a gun pointed at his head from point blank range. I also believe ID 329 broke Fear RP two times during this scene, once when he originally tried to get into ID 74's vehicle while I had my firearm pointed at him, and later on near the end of the video when Rank tells him to get on his knees while he has a gun pointed at him and he completely ignores the RP and later runs into his friends vehicle. IC & OOC Interactions Another self explanatory rule break. At 2:12-3:00ish in my video ID 329 attempts to pause RP and claim he is waiting for an admin. Since staff can only pause RP, I know that this is against the rules. He refuses to RP until an admin gets there, thus breaking the IC & OOC interactions rule NON-RP CLAIM Jesus, where do I even start. There is non-rp littered all across this scene on the part of ID 329. Firstly, he is tazed over 12 times throughout a 3 minute period. He doesn't try to RP that he's been tazed, he just treats it as a 10 second freeze in place and after that 10 seconds is up then he starts to run until he gets tazed again. Beyond this, Rank tries numerous times to RP with him using /me's and /do's. ID 329 completely ignores this RP to the point where we have to force the cuffs on him. Rank first tries to use /me's and /do's at 1:02-1:22 in my video. ID 329 runs away, completely ignoring the RP. Then Rank tries to use again /me's and /do's at 2:12-2:32 in my video, ID 329 ignores that RP again and then tries to pause RP. Finally, after numerous attempts to get him to RP by telling him to in /b, and him ignoring that as well, we're forced to force the RP on him at 3:30 in my video, a full minute of ignoring RP despite being contacted in /b multiple times for it. Finally, after he's been cuffed, the second that he's untazed he makes a run away from the bank and tries to pull his gun on us and make demands for us while cuffed. This is another instance of Non-RP, trying to pull a firearm on us and make demands while he is in cuffs. We taze him again, and tell him to get on his knees, at this point we have 2 firearms (not tazers) pointed at him and he once again ignores the tazer RP and the firearm RP and just beelines for his friends vehicle. To conclude the Non-RP claim, just watch the video. It's full of non-rp top to bottom. The behavior exhibited from these players at this scene is absolutely unacceptable. It is harmful not only to our RP experience, but to everyone else around them. There were numerous players at the bank, who may now think that it's okay to run away after being tazed 12+ times and ignore RP. It's a bad look. The complete lack of RP, attempting to pause RP, mixing IC and OOC, metagaming, and breaking fear RP, makes me wonder how he even got into the server. The fact that he did all of this to me at the bank in front of a dozen or so people, makes me think that this isn't the first time he's done this, but I digress. Thank you for reading, evidence pasted below. Regards, Phil Evidence of rule breach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy-h_pN5iz0&feature=youtu.be
  5. Hello, ID 250 here, thank you for the report. Its normal practice to inform somebody that you reporting them so they have a chance to save footage which you did not etc Let me just open by stating that what I did is not VDM nor is it non-rp. It's funny how you put that I VDM'd in the title of this thread and then don't link the rule for it (you just link non-rp). I think this is because we both know that if you were to link the deathmatching rule, you would see that you weren't DM'd. See rule here: Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with plausible demands, attempt to escape, or call backup. If you'll notice the rule highlighted in red, this is why you chose not to link the rule in the thread. You were incompliant, running away saying "fuck those cops". And then you attempted to escape the area. It wasn't my intention to even hit your bike, in fact the only reason your bike got hit is because you drove straight at me while I was reversing while I was attempting to block you in. Your gang is notorious for evading, and I didn't want you to escape as not only did I recognize your voice and your bike which you made a beeline for but I could also clearly see a weapon on your back which you had no license for as you have been convicted of numerous offences. Furthermore, your claim: "ram me off my bike without any demands which is VDM and Non-RP," is demonstrably false. You were never rammed off of your bike. You drove into my reversing vehicle and then bounced off of it and ran into a wall which caused you to fall off of your bike. You were driving upwards of 95KMPH using one hand to steer your bike in a tight area and deflected off of my vehicle into a wall landing spread legged on a gnome. At best, that is an IC accident and doesn't demand for a report. I will just take a moment to break down some of your points and counter them: Okay... Firstly, we pulled in to ask everyone to remove their masks. This is a pretty much everyday occurrence, if I see people with masks on, I enforce the law, because that is what an officer is there to do. You would have gotten away much more lightly had you only complied. Id also like to point out this is not an official HQ , this is a public apartment complex. Secondly, you say "when I attempt to leave the HQ," as if you were just leaving the area to go about your business and there wasn't just two police officers giving you a lawful order. You didn't attempt to leave the "HQ", you attempted to felony evade, fleeing the area to avoid removing your mask. Of course I am going to try and stop an armed convicted felon fleeing and possibly hurting people as he drives in a reckless manner. Thirdly, and I'll say it again: you were not rammed off of your bike. At 17 seconds in the video you're driving 80KMPH with one hand and deflect off of the back of our reversing cruiser and drove yourself into a wall causing you to flip off of the bike and land on a gnome. You were not rammed off of your bike. If feel that way the gnome should also be added in this report for DM In real life you wouldn't ram someone off their bike for not taking their mask off of course, but what about if a known criminal with a gun on his back who's already in violation of the law, tries to felony evade from an officer. Do you think they would not try to block your path, or not allow you to exit? Of course not, an officer would try to stop you in your tracks before you got away. That is exactly what I've done here, it was not my intention to reverse into your bike, but to merely block your exit. You took off at excess of 95KMPH and lost control of your bike after you hit the back of our car. To conclude, you weren't rammed off of your bike. I intended to block your path, so that you couldn't evade but instead you went behind a reversing car and deflected off of it and rammed yourself into a wall. Are you sure that you/your gang aren't talking via a 3rd party software? There are different qualities of voices and different chatter indicating to me that it is not all IC. And we can all see at the top left of your screen that you have been recording for over an hour. This situation was much longer then 29 seconds, is there a particular reason that you edited it all down to 29 seconds? Can an admin please request for him to upload the full footage that he has, as it is clearly seen that he's been recording for over an hour if you look on the top left of his screen and really edited footage should not even be considered valid evidence. As for @Kurdo251.. Jesus, where do I even start. I guess firstly would be to not comment in a thread that you have no involvement in, muddying up the whole thread by posting random videos about how you got an attempted prison break charge for attempting to break out of a prison. It's punishable to be posting in a thread that you have no involvement in, especially by typing a half incoherent sentence. "Players who are NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED in the report are not allowed to respond unless sharing necessary or pertinent concrete evidence ("I can confirm." or "That's what happened." is not acceptable). If you comment on a report you're not involved in you may be warned by a forum moderator." Make an IA report if you feel you were wronged. Just for future reference (a) Every individual arrested and booked for, charged with, or convicted of a misdemeanor or felony criminal charge who is confined in any county or city jail, prison, who attempts to break in or out, is guilty of GF-22 Prison Break. (b) Every person or persons who attempt to or successfully breaks into any form of containment facilities, such as county jail, city jail or prison, is guilty of GF-21 Prison Break. (c) If subsection (a)-(b) is committed with any type of force, the person or persons will be guilty of aggravated Prison Break, and any subsequent criminal charges. is the law for a prison break. Which is what you literally did, to a pretty much tee." Not to mention you bug abusing punching while cuffed, and the constant other rule breaks while you were being processed. You earned each minute of your sentence that I can see you and colleague used your time inside well by reporting 2 members of PD to try and get some sort of payback for being arrested. If an admin needs me, please let me know and I will respond. Thanks
  6. +1 The amount of people who Ive come across who cant open their cars. Not to dump on the work thats gone into it but im personally not feeling it.
  7. 10 seconds that I had a lethal weapon pointed at you. If I was a rival gang member and not PD would you have behaved differently under gunpoint? The other officer was close enough to shoot your friend down so it's not like he wasn't a threat. But I think the most glaring issue is your attitude of trying to take advantage by asking for my help in /b then trying to use it to gain an advantage. In my opinion that shows your mentatily is win, win, win, and not one of a symbiotic RP community. Also you mentioned you had recordings after the incident, so where are they gone now?
  8. That directly contradicts what you told me over PMs after the incident. You told me you were informed of PD attending the scene over the radio and thats why you went down and also your friend has the recording of it. I am sure the admins can view the entire transcript of PMs themselves but here is a screen shot below.
  9. Player(s) being reported: ID 451 ( Fear RP, Metagaming) ID 457 (Metagaming) Date of interaction reported: 18/5/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1589755352 Your characters name: Philip Darling Other player(s) involved: Mark Sloan Specific rule(s) broken: 9. Metagaming (MG) Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head. 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. How did the player break the rule(s)? I will address the allegation of fear rp first. I was requesting ID 451 to show his ID as he was wearing a face mask in public. After a little back and forth he decides he will show it but does not know how. I give him the benefit of the doubt and try to help him via /b at his request as everyone can forget commands etc. But instead, he uses this time of me typing trying to help him to combat roll away and pull out his gun. I then stunned him and drew my own weapon and gave demands. He does not comply and instead attempts another combat roll and starts to shoot after he comes out of the stunned animation. I could have easily ended him at any point he was stunned and he showed no fear for his life. I reached out to the person in question but he feels he has done nothing wrong and does not have to fear for his life when he has a weapon in his hand, regardless of his physical state. I will now address the suspicion of metagaming. The person in question performed numerous sets of typing with no IG reasoning and performing no /me do /b ect. Even when he was stunned he was typing something. I have a strong suspicion he was communicating with ID 457 to come pick him up/help and he would have ran to his car and escaped had he not been tazed and the shoot out forced. I asked ID 457 how he knew to come to the warehouse and he claimed he was asked to come via the radio and that ID 451 had video evidence of this. If this is the case I will of course retract the accusation of metagaming. I requested forum ID of the players in question to tag them but they didnt respond. I informed them the report would be up within 48 hours Evidence of rule breach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=73&v=mwv4hWGmwNM&feature=emb_title https://streamable.com/0o2ynk Mark Sloan POV ( Chat blurred due to staff chat)
  10. You're talking about people going out and intentionally breaking rules. This is simply not always the case. I've seen people with lots of experience and years of playtime getting banned for very minor infractions. I've also witnessed admins get perma banned for breaking rules. It's not just DMs we are talking about here. Also this is just my personal view but I feel some reports are not handled equally. It can really come down to does X admin dislike Y or even what gender is being reported. Id like to think people can be impartial but it's just human nature sometimes especially when it comes to gang affiliated admins. I suppose the key point from above is if it was treated as a legal system then mistakes happen hence the difference between , death by negligence , manslaughter and murder. Even some states wipe your record clean if you stay out of trouble long enough. This would be weighed up before sentencing. And it's so easy to shoot the wrong person wearing the same colour gang in a shootout. It's not malicious behaviour most of the time and even if it is and the person has proved through X amount of playtime and no rule breaks not to be perma banned for a mistake in a game mode essentially based around the medium of human nature?
  11. Exactly and we lost you and fled to the city where the reporter saw us, called for backup while in front of us on foot. He should have to show full context of the situation not just the bits he’s provided so far. He somehow thinks hes an innocent victim for some reason. This is a player who has just responded to a backup call where multiple of his allies got shot down, then he proceeds to join the chase and actively make backup calls throughout the whole RP situation. He all but knew that this would end in a shootout, and since it didn't go his way he made a forum report. "14. Deathmatch (DM) • If they are not in compliance with plausible demands, attempt to escape, or call backup."
  12. You're not sure why we would want full context of the situation shown? The fact you were outside your car shouting for backup on the radio standing next to us should be plain you put yourself into a hostile situation voluntarily. What were you hoping for by chasing people for 6 minutes around the city with a hostile group?
  13. I will just add that your footage starts as you are in the car, when we pulled up 30 seconds before you were outside the car calling for backup on the radio as soon as you saw us. I will check if I have any footage, but I am going to echo what @Dashingly has said above in relation to this report being super petty and the fact its your first post on the server says it all for me. You couldn't be arsed posting on any of RP or recommendations sub forums that people as a community bring to the server but instead use your first post to cement your personality. I would also like to mention that its actually one of the rules that you dont report for petty things and you did not notify either of us to save our footage and that you would be making a report, no you did not. What did you actually lose in this RP , did you lose your guns or possessions. No you did not.
  14. +1 I can't see any reason why they get locked out.
  15. Lol if you're Donald Trump's kid maybe.
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