Osborn Posted December 13, 2021 Report Posted December 13, 2021 Hello! We're working on a system to improve our internal punishment guidelines and the type of punishment a player receives based on how old their previous punishments are. Currently, staff can and are encouraged to seek deviation to give a lesser punishment to someone who had e.g. DM #1 a year ago, so that they don't need to ban them when they are issuing DM #2. We however recognize that this isn't always being done, and relies too much on one's individual judgement - so we're working on a system that will consider certain punishments "old" after a year, and not have them weigh in by default on punishments. We'll make an announcement once we feel comfortable implementing this. Do note that this would not affect currently banned players, as they will need to appeal their bans as per usual and those who have been given a date on their appeals will need to wait until said date. 6 1 1
Trevor Zelias Posted December 14, 2021 Report Posted December 14, 2021 4 hours ago, FatherOsborn said: Hello! We're working on a system to improve our internal punishment guidelines and the type of punishment a player receives based on how old their previous punishments are. Currently, staff can and are encouraged to seek deviation to give a lesser punishment to someone who had e.g. DM #1 a year ago, so that they don't need to ban them when they are issuing DM #2. We however recognize that this isn't always being done, and relies too much on one's individual judgement - so we're working on a system that will consider certain punishments "old" after a year, and not have them weigh in by default on punishments. We'll make an announcement once we feel comfortable implementing this. Do note that this would not affect currently banned players, as they will need to appeal their bans as per usual and those who have been given a date on their appeals will need to wait until said date. So reading this it is a good improvement indeed. I'd love to see this in action. But also considering "1 year = old" is a bit too long? We all have made mistakes that could be considered DM/Meta gaming and such. I've seen couple of times this have happen with people. Like a person that stabbed someone at Pier as their RP character is "Insane" and they got a DM punishment for that but saw them self doing somewhat "RP" for it. So I will myself say check over the times for certain rules and start adding how severe the certain rule breaks are in the punishment text or add the link for the complaint. I have a VDM jail myself on my account and never done anything after that punishment. It was de-sync on my part and did not have a video of the situation since I got PMed 24 min after "Save POV"((old days)). And that made me get a VDM jail. It was on the high-way with desync and many more factors like snow and such being around. So lets say I get a DM punishment again for something stupid like a situation in either DOC that I am part of being a guard. Is it really deserved to be a ban because of my (V)DM punishment? Seeing as it would be "not a year" and get anohter one etc. Sorry if all I wrote made 0 sense I wrote it while tired and woke up to it being not posted. 1
lSpixsy Posted December 21, 2021 Report Posted December 21, 2021 +1 to punishments expiring after a certain amount of time.
IAmTurtle Posted December 31, 2021 Report Posted December 31, 2021 Howdy, thank you for the suggestion. It has been implemented.
