MrUntouchable215

+1 400k for a stack of 10 is just too much, considering what it offers. 1/4 armor is not worth 40k lmao

+1 especially when there's weird time frames like 57 minutes and such, when most of them are like 30, 40, 60 minutes.

I'm sorry but just because you deal with idiots daily, doesn't give you the excuse at all. Criminals have to deal with being reported or threatened to report after every single shootout we ever have. The same thing goes both ways. Just because you deal with some questionable people, doesn't give you the excuse to not look at your own issues and address them. I'm not asking for the highest level of RP, I'm asking for reasonable and less corrupted police work. The by the book, by the law stereotype. We don't have a court system, so by nature you have to be an upstanding person to make on the spot decisions about how long someone spends in prison and it isn't reasonable to ask for better or even more RP during those situations. I think detaining someone, bringing them to mission row and RPing there is great RP for starters. If you want to do more RP and avoid shootouts, work on properly reinforcing situations and dragging the RP to another location. There are plenty of options available to you. Majority of the time, police sit around at the same scene for ages, allowing themselves to get set up on and smoked like a philly blunt. If you know a situation is about to get hairy, get the fuck out of the situation.

I'm so sorry for the double post but my guy, I'm with you on that. Jay and I have personally went to PD and met with high command to discuss issues. Time and time again we've done this. I make these forum posts because while those meetings are awesome and usually comes to some great conclusions, it usually doesn't last long. If anyone remembers from way back when Zetas was first formed, I'm sure you remember when Zetas used to bomb on cops 24/7, all day and how we even got skipped for official because of it and after meeting with PD and discussing issues, we completely stopped doing what we were doing and had a major cease fire for quite a long time. It was at that time that PD mass recruited, started bringing people to DOC using helicopters and got completely beefed up and when that happened, PD decided to go ape shit on everyone. Suppression checks, corruption, swat patrolling, etc. People from our side are ALWAYS down to have a sit down and talk about this shit, even OOC. The hardest part is getting your high command to actually have that meeting. I know this because we've tried many times.

What crawled up your ass and died? The original post stated that both Crim and Government factions have their issues and that still rings to be true. The only thing this post is aimed at is less corruption and more black and white and I genuinely don't see an issue with that. I'm sure people are upset that they got caught but that is not the purpose of this discussion and if you want to be hyper aggressive, especially with that last sentence, you're proving our point. I know criminals have issues, I'm aware of some of the major rule breaks and I'm aware some things can be seen as nonRP, no one is debating or excusing that in any type of way, shape or form. I have zero issues with being caught and I mean shit, most of the time I turn myself in when I'm wanted. PD doesn't need more power, it needs more organization and actual police work. I've seen video after video with you guys running around like vermin while in a shootout, getting exterminated. Focus less time on corruption and more time on being a unified entity.

This is going to come off real toxic but that's not my intention at all, on God but these are the ones I've found, so ignore the memey portion of it. I'm fully prepared to be cussed out and told I have downs and that I should whip and naenae myself back to Africa Palmer very recently: Dishonorable discharge, reinstated, Dishonorable discharged, reinstated.

Yo my man, I just want to touch on how you said reefer isn't corrupt? He dragged me up to a mountain with palmer to execute me after I called an officer a bitch? That' by definition corrupt. It's also corrupt to watch your corrupt detective (Palmer) do anything he desires in the passenger of your vehicle? I explained this all in my starting post and as I said, I could provide evidence if needed. If that isn't corrupt, what the hell is?

No way, that's fucked up bro

I don't see how you can truly compare a server of 200+ people to real life, regardless of role player in that sense. The issue is, when there's a corrupt chief and everyone gets wind of this, something is done about it. The main problem is, most people know about his corruption and nothing is done about it. I don't hate reefer, but this RP you speak of, I've yet to see it from him. The ONLY things I've seen was Palmer in his passenger seat doing 90% of the talking while the chief allowed him to do whatever he wanted, right along side him. No one is trashing reefer, people are speaking on how the chief can be corrupt and blatantly allow corruption on a server with 200+ population and no one to really challenge him on it. No one is upset at getting caught at all. I clearly stated in my post that I was caught and dragged to be executed by both Palmer and reefer and instead, they dropped all of my charges and let me go. What I did was some heinous shit and they just tossed a murderer back onto the streets with no problem. You ignore the corruption because it doesn't effect you, it effects people opposite of your position. I'm just saying, a little more black and white would be nice. I'm surrounded by criminals and yet it feels the same when I'm around PD and I feel like that's an issue that needs to be spoken about.

A multitude of things. From Palmer and Reefer camping chilliad, baiting and shooting at people with a 50 cal, to Palmer and Reefer taking me up a mountain to execute me before letting me go and dropping my charges, to Logan Cross giving me a .50 after when I got out of jail, Jason Steel shooting a Tech 9, there's many more to list and I've videos of it all. As I said, I'm not saying corruption should be removed, but it really shouldn't be so common to the point where it's hard to tell the difference between criminals and PD. I could see Palmer being corrupt, Logan being corrupt and a few others but the Chief? Really? It just feels weird really. It feels like people join PD in order to shoot shit up, rather than actually acting like a cop. There's plenty of officers who are awesome at their jobs and I totally respect but the high command just seems full of corruption. We need more cops like Bacon or Hamilton. Edit: I don't want people to think I'm trashing these dudes because I'm not. I personally loved Jason Steel as an entirety and had some of my best RP with him but I'm just speaking on some things I've noticed in PD overall. Every faction has their issues, both Crims and Government especially. Just for once, I would love to see more Black and White instead of full on grey.

Alright, I get it, it's fun. I imagine being a corrupt cop gets the blood flowing and I'm not making this post to say that they shouldn't exist, let's get that out of the way first. I make this post because of how common it is these days, to the point where it's normal to be a corrupt detective or higher. Corrupt cops exist IRL but in an ECRP setting, it just doesn't work. Let criminals be criminals and cops remain cops, otherwise it's impossible to tell the difference between them. I understand having a few lower ranking officers that do some petty, corrupt shit but when you have most of the detectives AND the CHIEF himself being corrupt, it spreads to the entire department. I have no issues being arrested, especially when I deserve it but only when it's by the books, completely clean and executed like an actual cop. Perhaps you all have different opinions but that's the point of a discussion post, let's hear them.

Just as the title says, I would love to see phone contacts in alphabetical order or the ability to sort them how you please. I think I've posted this before a long time ago but here's another shot

LC was our enemy because of an IC situation they involved themselves in, they had a choice. You act as if we declared war on them, which isn't true, it's the polar opposite. There's no excuse to VDM or DM the bank, you can blame all you want but that's a fact. Gang war is part of RP when dealing with factions but some people can't take it and get upset oocly because they hate our methods of war. We street sweep and I can see how that gets annoying, getting robbed everywhere you go. Yet, that choice was made on their side. Our tactic of war is to humiliate, exhaust you and clean you of everything you own and it works. Yes, people take that OOCly but that's genuinely not our issue and that's also a fact. When gangs lose a war, their first reaction is to DM the bank and quit the server? Sounds about right. We're not a low level street gang with pistols, knives and bats. In war, you're fighting Cartel level war and that's with AK's, Machine pistols, SMG's, Shotguns, Micros and rarely carbines. My point is, you can't expect our method of war to be clean, it's messy by nature. I think people misunderstand what RP is and that shows with the things people say. You mentioned how you talk to someone before you rob them, good on you but is that seriously even RP? If my intention is to rob you, I'm running up, gun to your face, empty your pockets and dip off. Realistically, that's how a robbery takes place. In no world ever do you see this HUGE dialog before someone's robbed, that is not only silly, it makes no realistic sense. I've had people GENUINELY OOCly upset saying shit like "These guys act like they're a fucking gang irl, fucking nerds" which is odd because on an RP based server..that's a considerably good compliment. You've had bad experiences with us because we don't fit your opinion of "Good RP" but again, that's subjective. The amount of ground work that we put in and content we've provided the server speaks for itself. You don't have to like us, or even enjoy our way of RP, that's not required. I just find it weird that most of these opinions come from people who were on the losing side of wars, rather than the neutral. I've also been on the other side as well and I can honestly say, from the VERY start of my time on ECRP, I've yet to been officially robbed. Shot and injured? Yes but I've never been held up and my shit completely taken. Anyone that knows me can vouch for that statement. I've worked for LSC for a really long time here and this was back when LSC got shot up almost 24/7 and even still, I was safe. I have no idea what you people are doing wrong, but fix it.

I hate to do this to you but considering your forum signature mentions how you were a general in LC. I have to say, you seem to have a lot of negative opinions when you personally were part of a gang who was notorious for shooting cops 24/7, DMing the bank and VDMing. I think people tend to forget that we're hosting players of ECRP just like everyone else. We built the tavern in order to provide completely legal and safe social events. The 247 store serves as a place to hang out, listen to music and chill. Most of the money that's spent in that store are from the people standing outside of it. I don't know where you're from but in my city, people sit outside of some 24/7's and sell drugs, roll dice and do all types of illegal shit. Just because you're an enemy of ours icly and you don't get the result you want, doesn't mean you have to be upset about it. I search these forums often and it's literally the same two guys, every single time with these types of posts. What have you personally done to provide the server with better RP? You can complain for ages but you have to also practice what you preach. What efforts have you honestly made to boost anyone's RP experience other than complain about how someone's RP is bad when you're their enemy ICly. My point is, I get it. You want it your way, but unfortunately it's the other way. LC

It always amuses me when new players come into the server and complain about how gangs are allied. It's not anyone's fault that you've missed some of the biggest wars this server has ever seen. Police/MD used to pick up dead bodies by the dozens when there was war. People complain that there's no war and when it happens, they go right to the forums. There's no winning really, make ya minds up

Dope I actually have this image as a poster on my wall lmao

I'd be down for putting shotguns in gun stores if .50s were taken out and put into the laptop. That shit is a heavy weapon to begin with. It's a desert Eagle and it two shots.

My man, if I'm logging out, that means I'm done playing for the night, meaning im exhausted, meaning the last thing on my mind is RPing myself logging out. Half of the time, I do go into a laydown animation before I log but it's not really needed and if something comes up that's important, im hitting the f4 button. I apologize but you have me ****ed all the way up if you think ima drive home, risk police or any other RP interaction when my intention is to quite literally avoid that by logging out lol. I've had situations like that before and I had to straight up tell them "I can't do this right now, I have to go, admin jail me" like naw bro, I'm good on that homie -1 However, I do agree that some RP situations could be improved but I wouldn't really say this is remotely even a priority. Perhaps I'll post a list of things when I'm not dead inside from the lack of coffee.

+1/-1 should only be on absolute death. depending on the injury, a gun may still be in hand irl. Again, it all depends on the injury, it's RP at the end of the day

+1 all for it.

+1 I've been thinking this should be implemented into the server for the longest.

xd

Shit talking someone because they asked how to use a charger? No. I'm positive that didn't happen. Gonna be my last post since these will likely be deleted. If you believe what that dude just said and you actually read it, you have to be high on octane to believe that, he's legit trolling.

I somehow doubt that happened because you asked about a charger. What did you do to make them point guns at you?

Please sir, if you don't mind, put your hands up