TheCactus Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Arian said: Who are you? How is this relevant in the current discussion?
37hh Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, TheCactus said: How is this relevant in the current discussion? How was your response? What is there currently to respect? You yourself received a punishment today for powergaming a license being revoked. There's clearly a massive issue at hand, and in my opinion that's the current standard of roleplay LSPD as a faction is displaying, when I first joined the server LSPD was there to set a standard, to show others what roleplay is and influence them. Actions displayed by the Chief of PD, high ranking supervisors, and the likes of yourselves drop those standards to below 0. The point of this thread from what I've gathered, is people want LSPD to display themselves realistically, not sitting on a mountain with a sniper rifle looking for smoke, not to revoke a license with 0 RP because you knew the driver would drive off and you wouldn't have a chance to roleplay it as you wanted to. Saying you were trying to remove it due to a " bug ", was no where in your place to do so. You used IC means for an OOC reason. Players, want to see LSPD succeed as a realistic faction that sets standards. Not drop them. I have no hate towards anyone in LSPD, I simply want to see a realistic police force, do what they used to do, and set roleplay standards for everyone. People look up to you guys, you need to own that. 2
TheCactus Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 37hh said: How was your response? What is there currently to respect? You yourself received a punishment today for powergaming a license being revoked. There's clearly a massive issue at hand, and in my opinion that's the current standard of roleplay LSPD as a faction is displaying, when I first joined the server LSPD was there to set a standard, to show others what roleplay is and influence them. Actions displayed by the Chief of PD, high ranking supervisors, and the likes of yourselves drop those standards to below 0. The point of this thread from what I've gathered, is people want LSPD to display themselves realistically, not sitting on a mountain with a sniper rifle looking for smoke, not to revoke a license with 0 RP because you knew the driver would drive off and you wouldn't have a chance to roleplay it as you wanted to. Saying you were trying to remove it due to a " bug ", was no where in your place to do so. You used IC means for an OOC reason. Players, want to see LSPD succeed as a realistic faction that sets standards. Not drop them. I have no hate towards anyone in LSPD, I simply want to see a realistic police force, do what they used to do, and set roleplay standards for everyone. People look up to you guys, you need to own that. Y'all non PD people talking without actually knowing shit. I am not aiming towards offending you but seriously, your answer is the explicit proof that you speak about topics while you know nothing, 0. It's like somone dropped a coin, I take it and try to give it back to the owner and you come saying: HAHA, YOU STOLE THE COIN! Like seriously bro, do me a favour and mind your own business. Edited November 20, 2019 by TheCactus ?
37hh Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, TheCactus said: The only thing I can say about this is "?" Sounds like a neurological issue you should get checked out sir 1
37hh Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheCactus said: Y'all non PD people talking without actually knowing shit. I am not aiming towards offending you but seriously, your answer is the explicit proof that you speak about topics while you know nothing, 0. Is that why I was a member of LSPD and LSSD both for months at a time? Weird. Pretty sure I know extensively how both factions work, and how the situations I spoke of above were clearly out of pocket, guess that's why punishments were warranted and deserved
TheCactus Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, 37hh said: Is that why I was a member of LSPD and LSSD both for months at a time? Weird. Pretty sure I know extensively how both factions work, and how the situations I spoke of above were clearly out of pocket, guess that's why punishments were warranted and deserved Let's focus on the main topic and stop this nonsense, shall we, mister rolemodel? https://imgur.com/IDkydmA https://imgur.com/lZJYHZY 1
37hh Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, TheCactus said: Let's focus on the main topic and stop this nonsense, shall we, mister rolemodel? https://imgur.com/IDkydmA https://imgur.com/lZJYHZY I guess your age is starting to show, don’t see a single place where I claimed to be a role model or a perfect person, atleast I can recognize the issue without going for personal blows to gain an ego win? Dunno, not gonna respond to an immature child unless you have something relevant to add. 4
Cyrus Raven Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 37hh said: How was your response? What is there currently to respect? You yourself received a punishment today for powergaming a license being revoked. There's clearly a massive issue at hand, and in my opinion that's the current standard of roleplay LSPD as a faction is displaying, when I first joined the server LSPD was there to set a standard, to show others what roleplay is and influence them. Actions displayed by the Chief of PD, high ranking supervisors, and the likes of yourselves drop those standards to below 0. The point of this thread from what I've gathered, is people want LSPD to display themselves realistically, not sitting on a mountain with a sniper rifle looking for smoke, not to revoke a license with 0 RP because you knew the driver would drive off and you wouldn't have a chance to roleplay it as you wanted to. Saying you were trying to remove it due to a " bug ", was no where in your place to do so. You used IC means for an OOC reason. Players, want to see LSPD succeed as a realistic faction that sets standards. Not drop them. I have no hate towards anyone in LSPD, I simply want to see a realistic police force, do what they used to do, and set roleplay standards for everyone. People look up to you guys, you need to own that. Is there any specific issues with law enforcement besides the individuals mentioned in this thread ? In other words, do you have any constructive criticism involving the majority of the law enforcement factions and not just a few individuals.
37hh Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kyle White Raven said: Is there any specific issues with law enforcement besides the individuals mentioned in this thread ? In other words, do you have any constructive criticism involving the majority of the law enforcement factions and not just a few individuals. No, I didn’t mean to pick out single individuals. These were recent events that I decided to mention, the faction as a whole, being LSPD, should, as they used to be, attempting to portray a realistic representation of LAPD. LSSD is a great faction that feels realistic and is fun to interact with. LSPD as of now, again in my opinion, seems like just another gang who wants a win. 1
Nightranger Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Kyle White Raven said: Is there any specific issues with law enforcement besides the individuals mentioned in this thread ? In other words, do you have any constructive criticism involving the majority of the law enforcement factions and not just a few individuals. How about consistently tailing someone and pulling them over every 20 seconds to give them a ticket for going 5km/h over the limit? The lack of RP'ing charges given The lack of telling people their charges The consistency of stacking charges for the sake of it The lack of RP at a traffic stop The current attitude of shoot first, dont ask later... There is a lot wrong, as the main faction representing the server, the quality of RP is literally zero
Cyrus Raven Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nightranger said: How about consistently tailing someone and pulling them over every 20 seconds to give them a ticket for going 5km/h over the limit? The lack of RP'ing charges given The lack of telling people their charges The consistency of stacking charges for the sake of it The lack of RP at a traffic stop The current attitude of shoot first, dont ask later... There is a lot wrong, as the main faction representing the server, the quality of RP is literally zero Can you provide some evidence with your claims ? If what you are saying is true, then it should be in all of our interests to identify the issues and try and correct them, but this has to be done properly. In essence, if you make a claim back it up with some evidence, every story has two sides so machine gunning problems with no evidence gives us no basis to improve on.
alexalex303 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Kyle White Raven said: Is there any specific issues with law enforcement besides the individuals mentioned in this thread ? In other words, do you have any constructive criticism involving the majority of the law enforcement factions and not just a few individuals. The Internal Affairs system is way too lenient on officers found to be in gross abuse of their power. The reasonable punishment for officers adding false charges, committing false imprisonment and so on would be immediate termination. Instead they are given slaps on the wrist. 4
Cyrus Raven Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, alexalex303 said: The Internal Affairs system is way too lenient on officers found to be in gross abuse of their power. The reasonable punishment for officers adding false charges, committing false imprisonment and so on would be immediate termination. Instead they are given slaps on the wrist. Hmm I don't have much experience with IA and how it works. However, SD has made public it's suspensions and employee adjustments on the government website, so anyone can see who get's promoted, suspended and discharged. I agree that if an officer or deputy is clearly in abuse of power he should be given a punishment that reflects the severity of the issue. To quote Sheriff Wallace who posted the other day on another thread. ''I can't speak for IA as I never had any interactions with IA myself while in PD, but in SD we do usually solve a case within a week, if not two in rare cases. Though I have to say, a lot of IA reports are complete bogus and they take time away from dealing with the actual issues. We have one reported been spammed to us 6 times in short succession, and each time triggering the IA process. That report was a waste of time which could have been allocated to solving actual cases. I know this is something most people do not want to hear, but PD and SD are not and will not unleash the full possibilities and consequences that would be justified in a state with such a high murder and crime rate. ''
alexalex303 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kyle White Raven said: Hmm I don't have much experience with IA and how it works. However, SD has made public it's suspensions and employee adjustments on the government website, so anyone can see who get's promoted, suspended and discharged. I agree that if an officer or deputy is clearly in abuse of power he should be given a punishment that reflects the severity of the issue. To quote Sheriff Wallace who posted the other day on another thread. ''I can't speak for IA as I never had any interactions with IA myself while in PD, but in SD we do usually solve a case within a week, if not two in rare cases. Though I have to say, a lot of IA reports are complete bogus and they take time away from dealing with the actual issues. We have one reported been spammed to us 6 times in short succession, and each time triggering the IA process. That report was a waste of time which could have been allocated to solving actual cases. I know this is something most people do not want to hear, but PD and SD are not and will not unleash the full possibilities and consequences that would be justified in a state with such a high murder and crime rate. '' I do not personally have an issue with IA reports taking time to process. I think it's very good that they are being thoroughly reviewed. My issue is with the punishments, that in my opinion are too lenient for the crimes commited. I did not use quotation marks because some of the actions that cops do are actual crimes. The issue is that after that long process, after writing it up, after sitting in prison, the officer gets a written warning. It is not proportional to the damage inflicted. It's nice that SD IA cases get solved quick, but if it's a slap on the wrist for false imprisonment, it doesn't really do much that it gets solved quick. 1
Bala Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 In terms of corruption, I've been in LSPD for almost 9 months and was told from day one, that corruption is an absolute no-no. Partly because if it's allowed, people go too far and partly because PD isn't on the server to be dirty, we have the illegal factions for that. I think that some of the complaints that get brought up are valid and I choose to spend parts of my day answering threads, full in the knowledge that some of you won't respect my opinion. But I do that because I feel like the only way that there is at least a little trust and respect between us out of game, is if we talk to one another. I'm certainly not going to score any points with my own faction for responding. That being said though, if you think that anyone that takes PD seriously is happy when threads like this get made or when incidents happen which embarrass the faction as a whole then you're very mistaken. We've had some corrupt cops, we've had some poor role-playing cops and it is entirely possible that we still have some of both now, it's a 100+ person faction and you can't moderate people all of the time. That's where forum reports and IA come into play. You just have to do the best you can. We get criticised for being like robots. We get criticised for adding some colour to our role-play. We get criticised for not doing enough. We get criticised for doing too much. - - - What annoys me is that PD is held to a different standard than everyone else on this server. We are all role-players, we all log on to enjoy ourselves, we all contribute in our own ways to the server and community and we all have to more or less abide by the same rules. I see Reefer brought up in this thread, the guy has been Chief for five months. He's been high command for a lot longer than that and he was punished for ONE situation, which now people keep bringing up. Let me honestly ask you, how many of the illegal faction high ups have that kind of record? I see people calling for members of the Police Department to be removed, because of rule breaking or mistakes they've made IC? Let me ask you, how many of you illegal factions have glossed over rule breaking members and kept them in your factions, even when to do so negatively impacts the impression of your faction? It's easy for some of you to sit in judgement on the Police Department, but meanwhile, we have chain-robbers, stunt-jumpers, head shavers, /b essay writers, persistent rule-breakers, factions hiding out in no-crime zones, factions resorting to ooc reports as a way of waging war etc.. If the emotes didn't get removed, this post would almost certainly get a feelschromosomeman reaction. I'm open to personal criticisms, i've shot my mouth off and done some really stupid shit in the not too distant past but I'm also willing to accept that the PD has work to do to improve as well and that standards have probably slipped. That being said though, these root issues of non-roleplay, powergame, fear roleplay, keeping people in factions when they break the rules.. how many of the illegal factions have those same problems? 7 1
Nightranger Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Kyle White Raven said: Can you provide some evidence with your claims ? If what you are saying is true, then it should be in all of our interests to identify the issues and try and correct them, but this has to be done properly. In essence, if you make a claim back it up with some evidence, every story has two sides so machine gunning problems with no evidence gives us no basis to improve on. Sure, against my better judgement - Apparantly this report is purely IC Issues Failed to tell me my charges until AFTER I had served 8 hours, Stacked charges, Even put it down to "Poor" Police work, Regardless of the outcome people can see for themselves. And as most of the others have said here, No one has faith in the IA Reports - That sheriff should be let go of PD, and anyone else who "Stacks" charges or fails to give another a chance to RP Charges Edited November 20, 2019 by Nightranger
Catstify Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 12 hours ago, TheCactus said: Is this an actual post or just OOC lack of respect? What do you mean OOC respect? Lack of OOC respect for PD or for the chain of command?
Cyrus Raven Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Nightranger said: Sure, against my better judgement - Apparantly this report is purely IC Issues Failed to tell me my charges until AFTER I had served 8 hours, Stacked charges, Even put it down to "Poor" Police work, Regardless of the outcome people can see for themselves. And as most of the others have said here, No one has faith in the IA Reports - That sheriff should be let go of PD, and anyone else who "Stacks" charges or fails to give another a chance to RP Charges I can happily go through this with you, but I fear that most of these issues are IC. For example, stacking charges. Both PD and SD have very strict rules against stacking charges. In essence, we have charges that can be stacked and make sense (If you shoot three officers you will get x3 Attempted Murder of a Gov. Employee) VS Blanket charges (If you flee from the police you escape then you get into another chase in 30 mins you will get x1 charge of felony evasion not x2, the exception to this is if it's clearly a different situation). When you talk about people stacking charges I think you mean Officers/Deputies giving you charges like Face Concealment or Possession of a Blade, which aren't charges given out very often. To make this clear, although these charges might be added because the officer or deputy doesn't like you IC'ly, it is important to make clear that this isn't ''stacking'' or even corruption. If you do a bunch of crimes and you remain calm, show regret and cooperate then law enforcement might go easy on you and forgo a few of these petty charges. However, if IC'ly you are causing issues, resisting and you've committed a serious crime then they might include all possible charges. I wouldn't consider this stacking, but simply giving you charges for crimes you've committed. If any of the charges given are wrongly given , especially in a malicious manor, not only do I agree that is wrong, but I encourage you to IA and forum report it. The second and final part of my argument relies on consistency. What I mean by this is that it seems like the standard of RP expected from Law Enforcement is x10 that expected from civilians and criminal factions. To an extend I agree with this, I think law enforcement in RP servers should be a staple of roleplay, mainly due to the powers given to us. However, there is a distinction to be made between roleplay standard and IC'ly adapting to IC environments. A good example of this was your report. In my view, it seemed like a lot of what you complained about was the behaviour of SD and how someone stacked charges. However, I don't think you considered why this was the case. You can not expect as a criminal to want leniency when you interfere in pursuits by following pursuit lines, not pulling over when you see and hear lights and sirens, circling around scenes and blocking police vehicles. If you want PD/SD to have chill traffic stops without 3-4 other units showing up then don't literally immediately talk on the radio as soon as you get pulled over and have your buddies circle the area and park their cars in the middle of the street four meters behind the traffic stop. This might not apply entirely to you, but this is an overall issue brought up. When you say you want things to improve it has to be a two way street. One that I want to see happen. I think both sides can improve, but this can only come about with a fair conversation and not forum threads that are essentially hit pieces on SD/PD disguised as ''constructive criticism''.
Catstify Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 @GOAT I disagree with you. You have derailed on to the topic of ooc toxicity and defense of Mick whilst also trying to drag gangs down. No one is criticising or attempting to pit PD Vs Crims as this server is so fond of doing. The main issue was PD corruption at high levels. I agree with that PD should implement a rule disallowing high ranking PD members from being corrupt, as LSC and Bayview currently hold those policies. My issue with corruption is that instead of keeping as much IC as possible, they give IC punishments for OOC issues. So if someone breaks an OOC PD rule such as ooc toxicity or misrepresenting the faction ooc, they receive an IC punishment as a result. If no one finds out IC or reports it IC then why are the officers receiving IC punishment for it? The same goes for gang rp as well though I'm not as familiar with their rules. In my opinion, there is too much mixing within the current rules for factions when mixing is something that's punishable. Yes, there should be consequences to ooc rule breaks (such as ooc toxicity) but they should not extend IG as much as they do. 2
padpilot Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 14 hours ago, SamuelGunn said: -Update just got thrown out of the PD due to saying the truth and not even trying to offend anyone apparently in 2019 freedom of speech is not found on this server. The law says innocent until proven guilty Chief was proven guilty by admins but somehow pointing out mistakes of one is not okay. I guess AI works the same way. holy shit they actually fired you lol fuck me.......
padpilot Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Catstify said: My issue with corruption is that instead of keeping as much IC as possible, they give IC punishments for OOC issues. So if someone breaks an OOC PD rule such as ooc toxicity or misrepresenting the faction ooc, they receive an IC punishment as a result. If no one finds out IC or reports it IC then why are the officers receiving IC punishment for it? The same goes for gang rp as well though I'm not as familiar with their rules. In my opinion, there is too much mixing within the current rules for factions when mixing is something that's punishable. Yes, there should be consequences to ooc rule breaks (such as ooc toxicity) but they should not extend IG as much as they do. isnt that mixing?
kenichis Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 14 hours ago, SamuelGunn said: -Update just got thrown out of the PD due to saying the truth and not even trying to offend anyone apparently in 2019 freedom of speech is not found on this server. The law says innocent until proven guilty Chief was proven guilty by admins but somehow pointing out mistakes of one is not okay. I guess AI works the same way. https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/forum/35-recruitment-applications/ If you ever need another faction.
Catstify Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, padpilot said: isnt that mixing? Did you read what I said? Yes, it's mixing to punish IC for something OOC.
Nightranger Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Kyle White Raven said: I can happily go through this with you, but I fear that most of these issues are IC. For example, stacking charges. Both PD and SD have very strict rules against stacking charges. In essence, we have charges that can be stacked and make sense (If you shoot three officers you will get x3 Attempted Murder of a Gov. Employee) VS Blanket charges (If you flee from the police you escape then you get into another chase in 30 mins you will get x1 charge of felony evasion not x2, the exception to this is if it's clearly a different situation). When you talk about people stacking charges I think you mean Officers/Deputies giving you charges like Face Concealment or Possession of a Blade, which aren't charges given out very often. To make this clear, although these charges might be added because the officer or deputy doesn't like you IC'ly, it is important to make clear that this isn't ''stacking'' or even corruption. If you do a bunch of crimes and you remain calm, show regret and cooperate then law enforcement might go easy on you and forgo a few of these petty charges. However, if IC'ly you are causing issues, resisting and you've committed a serious crime then they might include all possible charges. I wouldn't consider this stacking, but simply giving you charges for crimes you've committed. If any of the charges given are wrongly given , especially in a malicious manor, not only do I agree that is wrong, but I encourage you to IA and forum report it. The second and final part of my argument relies on consistency. What I mean by this is that it seems like the standard of RP expected from Law Enforcement is x10 that expected from civilians and criminal factions. To an extend I agree with this, I think law enforcement in RP servers should be a staple of roleplay, mainly due to the powers given to us. However, there is a distinction to be made between roleplay standard and IC'ly adapting to IC environments. A good example of this was your report. In my view, it seemed like a lot of what you complained about was the behaviour of SD and how someone stacked charges. However, I don't think you considered why this was the case. You can not expect as a criminal to want leniency when you interfere in pursuits by following pursuit lines, not pulling over when you see and hear lights and sirens, circling around scenes and blocking police vehicles. If you want PD/SD to have chill traffic stops without 3-4 other units showing up then don't literally immediately talk on the radio as soon as you get pulled over and have your buddies circle the area and park their cars in the middle of the street four meters behind the traffic stop. This might not apply entirely to you, but this is an overall issue brought up. When you say you want things to improve it has to be a two way street. One that I want to see happen. I think both sides can improve, but this can only come about with a fair conversation and not forum threads that are essentially hit pieces on SD/PD disguised as ''constructive criticism''. By stacking charges.... I was charged with attempted murder on a government official, A part that was deemed invalidRP by an admin, So I shouldn't have been charged for it... Knife charge - Was added on just because they wanted to keep me in for longer, It had nothing to do with the crime, Wasn't used in any threatening circumstances, Just had it on me. Assault with a deadly weapon - Apparantly I was consistently ramming officers with my vehicle, which I didn't, But I was charged for it Armed Robbery - There was no proof I even did this, and there was others wearing the exact same outfits (Until I showed my video on the report) I can understand the Interfering with justice, felony invasion etc... And let me get this straight, If I do a crime, or anyone does a crime, It's fair game to go to jail, and no ones asking for "Leniency" - But when BS charges are added on, and no allowance to RP charges, and pure denial to even be told your charges, because they know they added some BS charges on, That isn't on! - Again, I do a crime, do the time... But I just listed 4 charges up there, that shouldn't be there - The officer offered to "Compensate" the day after but that was only the fines, what about the 4 hours + I lost due to him abusing this fact? As said in the report, I'd rather deal with people breaking NRP constantly and Low-key metagaming than deal with officers who stack charges, putting you in a position that you can't rp any of it, and can't even play with your friends, all because he had a bad day? And your response, No offense, Is exactly why people don't trust the IA report process - It is a two way street, and believe me, When I'm in jail I try and RP with the guards (Strip dances when changing etc) just to make it fun - But it's hard to RP with an officer who won't listen to reason, or give you chance to explain why some stuff has been done? A RL Scenario - Your walking down the street, See an old lady get mugged and a kid knocked over, you intervene and beat the shit out of the guy who done it, He clearly needs to learn some respect, Police turn up and arrest you for assault - You broke the law, But the officers in RL would give you a lesser sentence due to the circumstances, Or let you off - Here, You get charges stacked without being told...
Cyrus Raven Posted November 20, 2019 Report Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nightranger said: By stacking charges.... I was charged with attempted murder on a government official, A part that was deemed invalidRP by an admin, So I shouldn't have been charged for it... Knife charge - Was added on just because they wanted to keep me in for longer, It had nothing to do with the crime, Wasn't used in any threatening circumstances, Just had it on me. Assault with a deadly weapon - Apparantly I was consistently ramming officers with my vehicle, which I didn't, But I was charged for it Armed Robbery - There was no proof I even did this, and there was others wearing the exact same outfits (Until I showed my video on the report) I can understand the Interfering with justice, felony invasion etc... And let me get this straight, If I do a crime, or anyone does a crime, It's fair game to go to jail, and no ones asking for "Leniency" - But when BS charges are added on, and no allowance to RP charges, and pure denial to even be told your charges, because they know they added some BS charges on, That isn't on! - Again, I do a crime, do the time... But I just listed 4 charges up there, that shouldn't be there - The officer offered to "Compensate" the day after but that was only the fines, what about the 4 hours + I lost due to him abusing this fact? As said in the report, I'd rather deal with people breaking NRP constantly and Low-key metagaming than deal with officers who stack charges, putting you in a position that you can't rp any of it, and can't even play with your friends, all because he had a bad day? And your response, No offense, Is exactly why people don't trust the IA report process - It is a two way street, and believe me, When I'm in jail I try and RP with the guards (Strip dances when changing etc) just to make it fun - But it's hard to RP with an officer who won't listen to reason, or give you chance to explain why some stuff has been done? A RL Scenario - Your walking down the street, See an old lady get mugged and a kid knocked over, you intervene and beat the shit out of the guy who done it, He clearly needs to learn some respect, Police turn up and arrest you for assault - You broke the law, But the officers in RL would give you a lesser sentence due to the circumstances, Or let you off - Here, You get charges stacked without being told... Ok I'll try and tackle these one at a time. Attempted Murder on a government official - In your case, shouldn't have been added, since the shootout was voided because of NRP, unless there was any other instance where you purposely rammed an officer in such a way that could be constituted as attempted murder (which from what I can see didn't happen). OOC IA and try and get it removed. Assault with a Deadly Weapon: Assaulting another person with a so-called "deadly weapon" which could include a gun, melee weapon, or a vehicle. In your case, the moment you blocked any vehicle and caused them to crash into you or you desync ram another officer you are liable for a assault with a deadly weapon charge. On one of the people you reported, it looked like you rammed them, IC'ly this would translate into this charge. Again, OOC IA with your video and try and get it removed. Knife Charge: Assuming everything you've said is true and you did not at any point RP your knife being longer than 4'' then this charge shouldn't have been applied. OOC IA report and get it removed. Armed Robbery: IC'ly Officers and Deputies have the power to charge and arrest anyone if they witness them committing a crime. From what I could tell people saw you leaving the area of the robbery and then you proceeded to help your friends who were being chased. All of these factors put together give enough reason for law enforcement to charge you with armed robbery. As for IA, as mentioned in this thread I can not speak for them, in fact what I said above is entirely my own personal views. I have a thread up from a few months ago about a justice system, I think that civilians should be able to bring in a lawyer and RP that if they want. However, as of now the only recourse you have is IA when there is a clear disagreement between the Officer/Deputy and the person being arrested. I take the same approach I do on normal OOC reports, if you want change to happen you have to report it, just make sure you are doing reports where clear violations can be observed and try and leave out the bits you might have included because you were angry or something, this allows IA reports to be completed faster.
