corrosive Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 With the huge number of police now in, the cops are jail time trigger happy. They pulled me over and threatend me with jail for making a uturn. I got pulled 6 times in one day and searched for looking suspicious. I was only driving around and following traffic laws. Fair enough people get bored, but it seems I can do anything now. Because I have to grind to get little pay, just to lose it to harrasing cops and their situations. Along with with update which already has people stressed, the police are killing the fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniDota Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, corrosive said: With the huge number of police now in, the cops are jail time trigger happy. They pulled me over and threatend me with jail for making a uturn. I got pulled 6 times in one day and searched for looking suspicious. I was only driving around and following traffic laws. Fair enough people get bored, but it seems I can do anything now. Because I have to grind to get little pay, just to lose it to harrasing cops and their situations. Along with with update which already has people stressed, the police are killing the fun IA report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartgg Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 What's the suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Carter Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, heartgg said: What's the suggestion? Literally the title of the post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riderz Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) On 7/3/2019 at 7:08 AM, DaniDota said: IA report. An have you ever seen IA punish anyone who is a friend to command or the investigator? We should regulate the PD; Remove their ability to investigate IA reports and give it to a more neutral faction for investigation (AKA the Gov). Then we can impose laws on the PD to follow; as at the moment they have free reign over what they do. Not something handed as policy, I'm talking good old fashion laws from the San Andreas Gov Edited July 7, 2019 by Tezhl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Raven Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 -1 2 On 7/3/2019 at 3:04 PM, corrosive said: They pulled me over and threatend me with jail for making a uturn. I got pulled 6 times in one day and searched for looking suspicious. I was only driving around and following traffic laws. Use the forums and report the officer if it is a rule break, if not you can OOC'ly and IC'ly report officers through Internal Affairs (IA). If you are in fact not breaking any laws at all and still getting arrested/charged then that can count as corruption and it is against LSPD faction and server rules. As for the overall suggestion, I don't see the point of having traffic cops for traffic offenses. Most officers are ''General Patrol'', this means that they respond to 911 calls, backup calls, panic alarms, 24/7 robberies, etc... One of these duties is also traffic regulation, there is no point in having another specific unit for traffic offenses because such offenses are a part of basic duties for all officers. The only thing I see happening if this gets implemented is just another division being added to LSPD and a bunch of regulations being added that prevents officers outside of traffic enforcement from giving out tickets and conducting traffic stops because people can't be bothered to follow traffic laws. Anyone with a license (acquired from the DMV in-game) should have a basic understanding of the traffic laws on the server, if you break them then be prepared to deal with the consequences, this is a Hardcore RP server, not a stunt jumping server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Raven Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tezhl said: An have you ever seen IA punish anyone who is a friend to command or the investigator? We should regulate the PD; Remove their ability to investigate IA reports and give it to a more neutral faction for investigation (AKA the Gov). Then we can impose laws on the PD to follow; as at the moment they have free reign over what they do. Not something handed as policy, I'm talking good old fashion laws from the San Andreas Gov Do you have any evidence for these claims ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartgg Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Malcolm Carter said: Literally the title of the post "Have traffic cops only for traffic offences." I literally don't understand this suggestion Edited July 7, 2019 by heartgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartgg Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Consider rewording your suggestion in order to make it more understandable and possible to realize. Also, please back up your claims with evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebab Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 this seems like an ic suggestion to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 The suggestion is not 100% clear for me... But we do have the Traffic Enforcement Division... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 The LSPD has officers that patrol under a traffic officer callsign and focus on enforcing traffic laws, however due to the high volume of violent calls, I do not believe it would be practical to restrict them from answer non-traffic related calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Doing what you suggested wouldn't necessarily stop you from being pulled over. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlaman Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 Sounds like a bold claim to me, also is this a suggestion to improve the server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riderz Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Kyle White Raven said: Do you have any evidence for these claims ? Yea, look at handlings of IA reports past Detective 1 - SGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Raven Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tezhl said: Yea, look at handlings of IA reports past Detective 1 - SGT I'm going to assume for sake of argument that your claim is true (Even though literally no one besides higher-ups have access to IA report archives, but apparently you are an all knowing god) Even IF you are correct, this proves nothing, it is merely a correlation (I.E. A coincidence). If you want to claim that IA reports past Det 1/SGT are biased or rigged then you need to prove that foul play from LSPD High Command is taking place. Saying ''Hey just look at the report, no one past Det1/SGT has ever been punished'' is NOT sufficient evidence for the claim you are trying to peddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) nevermind. off-topic. Edited July 8, 2019 by alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flucifial Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 I do believe that from my time in PD, TEO's were not required to respond to non-traffic related calls, unless there was a TAC situation going on or there was a low amount of officers in-game at that moment. If you're suggesting to restrict them completely, -1 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilky Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 18 hours ago, Tezhl said: An have you ever seen IA punish anyone who is a friend to command or the investigator? We should regulate the PD; Remove their ability to investigate IA reports and give it to a more neutral faction for investigation (AKA the Gov). Then we can impose laws on the PD to follow; as at the moment they have free reign over what they do. Not something handed as policy, I'm talking good old fashion laws from the San Andreas Gov Yes, many times. IA is completely impartial. If a valid IA report is submitted, it is taken serious regardless of OOC/IC friendships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbleachedStain Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzy. Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 OOC suggestions on how the LSPD/Laws are handled will not have much affect, change them IC'ly/via IC methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serthon Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 20 hours ago, Tezhl said: An have you ever seen IA punish anyone who is a friend to command or the investigator? 17 hours ago, Tezhl said: Yea, look at handlings of IA reports past Detective 1 - SGT I've been in IA for 6 months, 4 of those being the Assistant Commanding Officer, and your claim is, quite frankly, gibberish. You mention that they won't be punished if they’re friends with the investigator, this is not possible - IA Command is the one that overlooks reports and sends out final responses, not the investigator. IA Command can disagree with the suggestion of the investigator. Even if they're friends with command, nothing else will happen, there are only two members of cmd in IA who are investigators. DT 1+ and SGT 1+ have been punished before from IA reports, and I do not understand how you would have information on past IA reports on these members. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLDOZER Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Having been an IA investigator for 6 months I can assure you that no matter the rank, all reports are handled fair and accordingly with no bias, if a bias should be there then the investigator gets changed, we spend a lot of time and effort o look into these things both IC and OOC so I am unsure where you are coming from? Even the chief can have reports against him and they will be dealt with the same way a report against a cadet is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRiasBaixas Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 I will be ok having people to place illegal parking tickets around the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
