InvalidSun Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Pretty straight forward suggestion. Currently, and ever since release, gas stations have been limited to 20,000 liters. Nowadays, the demand for it has that running out in less than 2 days. While running out is a manager error in that regard, it damages the player in regards to the fact that at times, 3-4 gas stations at a time end up running out of gas, and then they have to wait for a trucker, or run the loads themselves. I suggest raising it several times over, as the player base has increased drastically since the release of gas stations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) I've seen this suggestion show up in a Discord and now I find it here too I also came with an idea to have fuel station owners being able to buy "tiers", which will hold more capacity. So basically, if people want they can buy extra capacity if they want to, since I am not sure if some people need more capacity. overall, +1 Edited February 5, 2020 by Yputi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aress Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Gas Stations need extra storage for sure , Specially the ones in the city that are really populated and run out of gas in a matter of 1-2 Days. Huge +1 Edited February 5, 2020 by Ace of Spades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navster Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KCAJ Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmine Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Owners dont need to be further rewarded for AFKing for days/weeks and continue to collect passive income. Here's a better solution: when owners can't be bothered to fill their stations every once in a while, the station goes up for auction to the public. This is an RP community that is always evolving and benefits from ACTIVE players RPing on the server. When someone stops being active, their income should stop too. And others who are active should be given opportunities to replace them in the community. Edited February 6, 2020 by Jasmine 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 +1 ignore jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jasmine said: Owners dont need to be further rewarded for AFKing for days/weeks and continue to collect passive income. Here's a better solution: when owners can't be bothered to fill their stations every once in a while, the station goes up for auction to the public. This is an RP community that is always evolving and benefits from ACTIVE players RPing on the server. When someone stops being active, their income should stop too. And others who are active should be given opportunities to replace them in the community. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmine Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, vx3r said: +1 ignore jasmine Wow, thought provoking counterpoint. I never thought about it this way, very valid points you bring up here... Edited February 7, 2020 by Jasmine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vx3r Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Jasmine said: Wow, thought provoking counterpoint. I never thought about it this way, very valid points you bring up here... Your welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Jasmine said: Owners dont need to be further rewarded for AFKing for days/weeks and continue to collect passive income. Here's a better solution: when owners can't be bothered to fill their stations every once in a while, the station goes up for auction to the public. This is an RP community that is always evolving and benefits from ACTIVE players RPing on the server. When someone stops being active, their income should stop too. And others who are active should be given opportunities to replace them in the community. Instead, I would like a better management system so I can actually have my registrated manager order fuel. Now I am 100% responsible for the whole station and everyone has some time off the server. Would also be kinda harsh for some banned people that can still appeal, but will take some time for them to get unbanned 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navster Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Yputi said: Instead, I would like a better management system so I can actually have my registrated manager order fuel. Now I am 100% responsible for the whole station and everyone has some time off the server. Would also be kinda harsh for some banned people that can still appeal, but will take some time for them to get unbanned +1 Yhea this would also bring new jobs into the citys and give gas staion owners time to relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeInnit_ Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 All player owned businesses should be able to appoint staff and have upgrade tiers of some sort 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yputi Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) After doing some research I found this source: https://www.quora.com/How-much-fuel-is-stored-in-a-petrol-station Here in a summary: "Generally 1 or 2 set of dispensing machine has one tank of diesel and one of petrol linked to it." "Each tank has a capacity of 21,000–22,000 litres." "The amount of fuel storage as well as number of pumps will be determined by the amount of business they expect to have." I think these 3 quotes were the most important ones of that source. Currently, there are stations that have a simple duo-dispensing machine. Lollipop Fuels in Paleto is kinda weird story since there is a huge station attached to it, but only the very small pumps infront of the grocery store are being used scriptwise... The 20K liter makes sense, but imo only for the station with these small pump's. I think having a improved management system where you can simply appoint staff to certain parts of the system (order fuel, take money out, etc.) would be very nice + adding a part on the government forum where you can apply to buy extra tanks for more capacity. Then the government employees will check if it makes sense, so they will look if the extra capacity is really needed or not, how much more capacity would make sense and give a price. Maybe some rules can be bound to it that if the station runs out of fuel a lot or the person managing the station does not take good enough care, they get a warning, reduced capacity or anything else to promote people to stay active instead of auction their stuff. Now I do think the stations with more dispensing machines should be able to apply for more capacity more easily, unless out of the city. PS. I do see why jasmine sees this as promoting inactive people to make money, but at the end most of them paid a lot to get this benefit. Atleast in my experience. + I don't think a bigger capacity will make them more inactive. Otherwise if they really are only active for ordering new fuel they will just jump online to place that order anyway. Edited February 7, 2020 by Yputi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawpi Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 It would be nice to see an upgrades within the gas stations and general stores too in regards to storage spaces. For example, you would have to invest into the security, storage and other things that may increase the chance of the robbers getting reported or having more space for the fuel within the gas stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander783 Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 What do you mean, less than 2 days. Fake News. Haha It would be way more fun, if you could hire workers for your scripted business via script and give them money that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_Smokerson Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 +1, i dont have a gas station. But it would be nice if they had perhaps 40.000 liters in them, which is a realistic amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) I think it should stay as it is. @Jasmine's opinion is kinda harsh but she is not wrong either. Active people should make more money than those who are not. Edited February 20, 2020 by TheCactus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandroXiX Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 9:57 PM, Jasmine said: Owners dont need to be further rewarded for AFKing for days/weeks and continue to collect passive income. Here's a better solution: when owners can't be bothered to fill their stations every once in a while, the station goes up for auction to the public. This is an RP community that is always evolving and benefits from ACTIVE players RPing on the server. When someone stops being active, their income should stop too. And others who are active should be given opportunities to replace them in the community. Totally agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amirali Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 12:27 AM, Jasmine said: Owners dont need to be further rewarded for AFKing for days/weeks and continue to collect passive income. Here's a better solution: when owners can't be bothered to fill their stations every once in a while, the station goes up for auction to the public. This is an RP community that is always evolving and benefits from ACTIVE players RPing on the server. When someone stops being active, their income should stop too. And others who are active should be given opportunities to replace them in the community. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) We have seen a higher rate of usage lately but I don't have fuel consumption usage data. A player 'should' have to log in at least 2-3 times a week to actively maintain their business, maybe a *breakdown* mechanic? Via some quick research, underground gas storage tanks per octane range 15,000-50,000 gallons (56,781-189,271 liters). Average Tank Size = 123,026 liters Times 2 (average number tanks in a standard station in the US is 3, but we only have 'one octane') = 246,052 liters Divided by 4 (because it's a game, we divide everything by 4 and because @Jasmine makes a good point.) = 61,513 Hmm, I think I could support tanks being increased to (rounded) 60,000 liters Edited February 21, 2020 by Xoza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramz Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 +1 crim update 1st tho obvi.gov/gibcrimupdate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...