alexalex303 Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 As most of you know, there is a hard speed limit of 240 km/h which no vehicle can go past, this is because in the past we had vehicles that could do silly speeds like 300 km/h. With the base game receiving more and more unrealistic vehicle updates due to the need of the new cars to be better than the old ones to generate shark card sales (by Rockstar), I think that the current vehicles are also going too fast, and we could benefit from lowering the speed cap again. Since everyone has to follow the speed cap at all times, this should not be seen through any law enforcement / crim / civ lens. Just slower cars, which means more roleplay since people are not zooming everywhere. 9 1 2 8
Rage. Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 I want whatever you’re smoking -1 1 1
Quietthecutie Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 So hang on, do you want all vehicles speed lowered to scale? Like a 240 vehicle would now do 200 and a 200 vehicle would now do 160? Im trying to figure out the logic.
Demonmit1 Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, Quietthecutie said: So hang on, do you want all vehicles speed lowered to scale? Like a 240 vehicle would now do 200 and a 200 vehicle would now do 160? Im trying to figure out the logic. i mean, if all vehicles were scaled down, sure? but like 150mph/240kph isnt an unrealistic speed for a high performance vehicle. if the suggestion is to just make all cars currently have a max of 200kph, thats insane to consider. this is entirely PD focused, so that the base PD cars (STX/Scout) will now be specced to hit max speed on the server and be competitive with top tier sport/super on the server people have spend many hours earning money for. in no way should trainee numbnuts have the same performance car as a crim who's put in 100 hours to buy fast car. Law enforcement has more than enough ways to handle 240kph cars. just cause they get away every once in a while doesnt mean you now have to nerf everything to be on par with the average cop car. 1
Quietthecutie Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Demonmit1 said: i mean, if all vehicles were scaled down, sure? but like 150mph/240kph isnt an unrealistic speed for a high performance vehicle. if the suggestion is to just make all cars currently have a max of 200kph, thats insane to consider. this is entirely PD focused, so that the base PD cars (STX/Scout) will now be specced to hit max speed on the server and be competitive with top tier sport/super on the server people have spend many hours earning money for. in no way should trainee numbnuts have the same performance car as a crim who's put in 100 hours to buy fast car. Law enforcement has more than enough ways to handle 240kph cars. just cause they get away every once in a while doesnt mean you now have to nerf everything to be on par with the average cop car. this was my thinking. and honestly either way you wanna slice it, to scale or a flat limit i think it would be bad for the server. If its a flat limit, Demon said it very well. the cop vs crim argument is unavoidable. If its a scaled nerf, as in all cars get nerfed in line with the lowering of the limit, I think that would actually be worse. I think it would make all chases and journeys around the map alot more boring. going 200+ in a city chase is the point where even the most experienced drivers start going "ok this is a bit risky." and thats where people crash, stall, flip, and the chase can be ended. if everyones going alot slower than they currently are, chases would go on alot longer and be alot more boring. Edited September 17, 2024 by Quietthecutie
Bala Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 (edited) I can understand why the OP suggested it and there are certain things about it that make complete sense, as it would bring balance to the server in terms of vehicles. Electric vehicles seem to cap at around 180, your non-script buffed PD vehicles are around 180-200. Most supers and sports cars go around that amount so the figure in of itself isn't a bad idea. That being said though, I think that this would be too much balance. Fuck realism, because it don't exist here. We made a conscious decision a couple years ago, to try and keep our modded vehicles balanced. We removed the PD super cars and then we started adding OP credit vehicles like the Issi Sport and now the Itali GTO and Niobe, which sort of contradicts that agreement. The Niobe isn't fast, it's broken and I'm waiting on that to be addressed by the devs. We want to allow for some variation and freedom right? But if that variation and freedom is a box, the Niobe is outside of it, which isn't right. I don't want to see any current speaker boosted Niobe drivers chatting anything about PD stuff being OP ever again, you ain't got the right anymore. I think in all honesty, we don't need to alter the cap, just the Niobe. Actually fuck that, can we get the legal speed limit raised to 100, because 80 is still too slow for how people drive in this server. Edited September 17, 2024 by Bala 2 1
Quietthecutie Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Bala said: I can understand why the OP suggested it and there are certain things about it that make complete sense, as it would bring balance to the server in terms of vehicles. Electric vehicles seem to cap at around 180, your non-script buffed PD vehicles are around 180-200. Most supers and sports cars go around that amount so the figure in of itself isn't a bad idea. That being said though, I think that this would be too much balance. Fuck realism, because it don't exist here. We made a conscious decision a couple years ago, to try and keep our modded vehicles balanced. We removed the PD super cars and then we started adding OP credit vehicles like the Issi Sport and now the Itali GTO and Niobe, which sort of contradicts that agreement. The Niobe isn't fast, it's broken and I'm waiting on that to be addressed by the devs. We want to allow for some variation and freedom right? But if that variation and freedom is a box, the Niobe is outside of it. I think in all honesty, we don't need to alter the cap, just the Niobe. Actually fuck that, can we get the legal speed limit raised to 100, because 80 is still too slow for how people drive in this server. Nice touch at the end to keep the crim v leo pitchforks away That said I agree with everything you say. 1
Demonmit1 Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 10 minutes ago, Bala said: I think in all honesty, we don't need to alter the cap, just the Niobe. So, the Niobe has some form of balancing to it. its fuel consumption is incredibly high while having a very small fuel tank. (basically like a motorcycle) so at a base setup, its balanced that it cant be in anything close to an extended evade. but considering its a $250 car, anyone who has one is likely also Diamond VIP, which massively buffs it with a normal sized fuel tank. 1
Vez Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 -1 get a better computer and quit the drugs
Saint_ Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 -1, Big supporter of removing the speed cap again, I want to go 300 on a gargoyle
Jordan Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 Ultimately this would not just be a bad idea because of things like chases, police or crim what have you. This is also bad because either you have to lower the speed of other vehicles or just have to waste other players' money because some vehicles are bought for their speed advantage, if a crim has 1 car because it can go 240 but their old one can go 210 but the speed cap is put to 200 then the new car they bought is now just a waste of money 1
Cup Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 I dont even really care about how fast the niobe is, it is a little crazy that it can continue doing that speed with no tires however XD
SquirtleSquad Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 -1 No need to lower the vehicle speed cap 2 hours ago, Demonmit1 said: So, the Niobe has some form of balancing to it. its fuel consumption is incredibly high while having a very small fuel tank. (basically like a motorcycle) so at a base setup, its balanced that it cant be in anything close to an extended evade. but considering its a $250 car, anyone who has one is likely also Diamond VIP, which massively buffs it with a normal sized fuel tank. No, it's broken. Argue the tank size all you want, you can hit 240 with a passenger easily, and on almost all road surfaces. It's busted, and I own one.
hrxvey Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 (edited) -1 if you're issue is with the OP cars that rockstar are adding (such as niobe, itali gto etc) just cap those cars to a certain speed (220 is probably best due to the amount of money people have spent on said cars), there are so many cars that have a niche of their top speed, e.g. comet retro, 811, rapid gt that would all be nullified, the cars that are considered a problem should be nerfed, similar to the way the bullet resistant cars such as the buffalo stx were nerfed. Edited September 18, 2024 by hrxvey
