OBESE Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Hello all Eclipsians! Today I come to you with a suggestion due to the excessive amount of new players joining our server. A lot of these new players have never played role-play before and they have no knowledge or experience. That itself is not a bad thing as you can learn and we are here to help. But how do we make sure that the person, upon joining the server and wondering the streets of Los Santos, actually has the simple knowledge and understanding of RP that the server requires? The quiz is there and the written exam as well. We see a lot of people fail due to lack of knowledge, but then on the other side we see a lot of people pass it, but totally fail when allowed into the server. Such bad experiences and interactions do mess up the older player base role-play experience and upon allowing someone new into the server we have to make sure that the person will add to the experience, not take away. [Suggestion - TL:DR part] I suggest adding another legal faction - Los Santos Border Control - LSBC! This faction would be the one that is dealing with newcomers of the server and who's job is to actually confirm their knowledge and educate if needed via actual role-play! After the quiz and written exam is passed they would arrive at LS Airport where they have to go through the border control. The whole experience would be designed to introduce the newcomer to basic roleplay in terms of /me's and /do's and test their knowledge. It would consist of simple tasks that a border control officer would perform, like checking passport(licence), doing a body scan, inviting them to an interview room and asking for some simple questions as to "why are you here", "do you know anyone in town" and stuff like that. If the person shows understanding between IC, OOC, /do, /me and officer does not see no issues, then the person is let into Los Santos and is free to start their story. If by any chance the person shows lack of knowledge of the basic RP, then the outcome is really up to administration to decide. It could be explained on the spot via ooc method or denied entry meaning the person would have to try to educate themselves, ask on discord about stuff they dont understand and try the last phase again in maybe 4 hours, same as application cool-down. How to deal with it would come down to the level of lack of the knowledge. It is important for the whole community that we do our best to make sure we are met with at least average level of role-play, otherwise we will gain reputation of a bad RP server community due to the fact that large amount of newcomers do not understand basics. The screening system that we have at the moment is suppose to check for that, but unfortunately it allows the person to cheat while actual live role-play would make that task way harder even if someone would still assist, but even then the individual would see a real example how things work and learn. Just for laughs (Might have been trolling, but it's not far from truth we see) - I hope you will like this suggestion and consider it as I believe it would gradually improve the overall role-play experience and in matter of fact bring in new role-play with a new faction. Feel free to comment and add to my suggestion if you see how you could improve this idea. 2 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rytis Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 +1 A great idea, and it would lead to some interesting roleplay scenarios, but I'm not sure if there would be enough people willing to do this as a job. Also, what about when there are no newcomers, do the employees just sit and wait regardless? Because that could seem quite boring, drawing people away from this faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBESE Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Rytis said: +1 A great idea, and it would lead to some interesting roleplay scenarios, but I'm not sure if there would be enough people willing to do this as a job. Also, what about when there are no newcomers, do the employees just sit and wait regardless? Because that could seem quite boring, drawing people away from this faction. It could be like part of existing faction, definitely not police because I believe they already have too many departments. But it could be like extra part for DOC maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teca Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Big +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Tyler Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) Agree on this, would be very helpful to new ones. Recommend. Edited March 18, 2019 by Danny Tyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxJustTimmy Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 +1, Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePro Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 A very original idea, I haven't seen this anywhere yet. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAPPO Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Big ass ++1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JassemBenRayana Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 +100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscurD Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinsali Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 This is a great idea. Especially right now with 'The Flood'. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st3fan333 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numachi Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 As a newish player myself i think this is a great idea, I would have really appreciated something like this when i first started. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnis Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 +1 I need some reducation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvador Rivera Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yeap ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aXoL Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) This is a good suggestion but how can you change the level of rp in general? Basic rules and the meaning and how to use rp commands are not our problems. When I joined the server I just faced so many players who are still grinding to buy a mansion or super car, checking labs and robbing everyone, rule baiting and try to ban the enemy gang members, camping at foundry to rob a miner after working over 30 min and telling him that is rp without thinking about his experience here after getting robbed and chopping his car, not commiting to the rp instead of trying to only win, placing all the possible charges on the Player without thinking about how much time he has to spend in the no rp jail that we have, making fun of non English people because of their accent or their grammer skill, ignoring hostage by LSPD and shooting at the hostage and criminals, not having a balanced cop vs criminal rp because we think it's more realistic when nothing is realistic in the server and so many other stuff that can be discussed about. What happens to a new players when he sees this situation? Who is struggling with /do after a couple days of playing? New Player would just start rp'ing like other players. Grinders and robbers. Not thinking about building a character is the problem. I am agree with you that we have to teach new players how the things go here but building a good environment for them before they get in the town is our responsibility that we should have an eye on it. In general +1 but I'm pretty sure that we have many other serious problems out here. Edited December 9, 2019 by aXoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke kuperus Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Brian Jennings Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Made this recommendation prior. + 1 https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/19452-immigration-island-introduction-of-quiz-team-as-immigration-officers/?tab=comments#comment-97712 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxas Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Huge +1 on this one! Would love to be a part of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCAJ Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMNJOKER Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eradicati0n Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Pretty nice idea, though I don't really see a logical outcome for if the newcomer in question fails to pass the border checks. Being kicked would potentially stop them from ever coming back to the server and put them off trying to learn RP, so its something that would probably require some thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenichis Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 This seems awesome, but maybe it will be difficult if noone on the faction is currently on duty / online to receive new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...