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Welcome, mate! Hope you have fun and stick around, this server has a lot of great opportunities for RP and you'll meet some real cool people on here.

+1 if it truly is the case that you can just google all the quiz answers. As a cop in my experience almost all new player encounters are unpleasant. They don't read chat, mix IC and OOC, and generally just troll/break rules. Obviously we have to teach the new players how to play the server if they're new to RP but most of the time it's just people that joined the server to troll around in.

Yeah, definitely reasonable for specific RP scenarios such as ERP or maybe like some other kind of RP where you need consent (like torture/kidnapping or whatever). I think if youre streaming on twitch and engaging in that type of RP, that all parties should be informed that it's being broadcasted. In cases where you're at the bank or something, or engaging in regular everyday RP it's probably not feasible to inform everyone that they're being livestreamed, but in niche situations like that it would be nice to be informed. +1

@Darius Bivins Credit to @Phil McGee for the video

With that rule they're trying to promote better RP. You say IRL if someone took your belongings that you would shoot them immediately. Firstly, I don't believe that you would do that. Secondly, this isn't the kind of RP that they want on the server. Rules aren't being made up on the spot, if you shot someone for stealing something worth 5k, then that is too small of a reason to outright kill someone with no other interaction. 5k worth of stuff is like an hour worth of work (assuming you're doing the bare minimum and being slow). Really? If you had your phone in your hand and some petty thief quickly snatched it and ran away, would you execute them on the spot? Of course not. Don't get me wrong, you should definitely try to get your belongings back but you should do it the right way. If someone snatches your crate off the ground in front of you, pull out your gun and aim at him and tell him to drop it, or RP with him in someway other then just shooting him dead for stealing a crate with low value in it.

+1, high quality post with lots of effort put forth. I especially like this idea: please for the love of god make drugs worth while besides selling them.

Just as the above poster said, it's meant to give a realistic description of your wounds so that you can RP them properly. Death RP isn't always granted but can be granted if all the parties involved agree to it. The reason that this is the case is because if anyone could choose to RP death rather then go to jail for X amount of time then they will always choose death over jail RP.

yeah i definitely see where you're coming from and I'm not even a player who does the whole "Hands up this is a robbery" type RP. I 100% don't think that what you did should be against the rules. It seems like everyone is taking the rule literally to a tee that you can't do any robberies in public, when that just should not be the case. Honestly, if you're not allowed to rob someone at 10:30PM in the middle of a rural area with no one around, then where would you be able to aside from the woods or some obscure shit like that. Why are store robberies still allowed if what you did is against the rules lol? Just remove /grabcash and delete the shopkeeper. I mean I know that you robbed a real player, but still the point stands, if you're in such a high populated area, then why are any stores allowed to be robbed at all. They are the literal definition of high risk, low reward. You get maybe a few hundred $ for a potential huge sentence EDIT: excellent points made by @Ryzoft I would definitely make an appeal if you got in trouble for this. From day one of this rule break I knew that it would lead to situations like this where the rule is so ambiguous that you could get in trouble for something that you shouldn't have gotten in trouble for. It should be reworded, or at least explained better.

I'm open to changing my mind on this but what everyone else is saying doesn't invalidate the OP's points. It's 10:30 PM in game time. That means that there will be a small amount of people on the roads/in the area because people will be in bed or at home. He's in an already rural part of the map which would also reduce the amount of people on the roads. He's fully masked up and unidentifiable and has found someone alone in the dark with not a lot of people around IMO, that's the exact type of environment we should be robbing in. I took the new rule to mean that we can't rob someone at mid-day in a clothing store because that would be totally unrealistic (lots of people around, and in an already crowded area during peak times. If not here, then where can people do this kind of roleplay?

+1

Mostly a good thing, but like others said - who is to constitute what a populated area is? Rules really shouldn't be ambiguous imo. Like Aldari saying that it's meant to be vague isn't really an acceptable answer for a player who could receive a permanent ban for robbing someone in a place that the player may think isn't populated, but an admin disagrees with them. it's definitely important to use your own judgement during RP as he/she/they said, however, we've seen in the past that players using their own judgement led to mishaps (think before NCZ's were marked on the map for instance; or when the fear RP rule changed; or when the VDM rule was changed; or when the KoS rule was changed. all of those rules have been further clarified after dozens of rule breaks took place which led to players being punished). Something that should be added to that rule is that the time of day could effect it, for instance, if a player robs you walking down the road in the middle of the day thats non-rp. but if a player robs you when you're walking down the road at 3AM, then that wouldn't be considered non-rp. Definitely a needed rule, just wish it was worded better/wasn't so ambiguous, even though that was the intent of the rule.

yeah i havent seen anyone do anything in prison except afk but have to be at their computer so they dont get kicked for afk. the prison update that was supposed to introduce better rp to the prison kinda flopped because nobody wants to RP mining ore to take 15 seconds off their sentence every 5 minutes. also haven't ever seen any prison guards interact with prisoners outside of booking them which is shitty.

Best bars from you yet imo, nice flow and a lot of substance. fire, keep it up. i'll be looking out for the EP - Leron

preach. i'm walking on fucking egg shells every time an rp situation arises where i have to use my gun. it's like, i feel like im within my rights (RP wise and rule wise) to shoot this player, but is it even worth it to shoot my gun, knowing there's a chance it may end up on the forums? i feel you.

preach.

This is exactly right. Players new to RP are much more likely to get several punishments in the first month of playing and then a year down the line they'll catch a non-rp for something small and then get permanently banned preach Big +1 Like @Phil McGee and @CaesarSeizure are saying, a player can essentially get hit with a DM charge on his first week, then be a great and active RP'er for the next year, and then perma banned if they get hit with another DM. Totally agree with Phil's sentiment in the regard that if you play X amount of hours without a punishment, that the previous punishment be either voided or not weigh as much for the next punishment.

yeah i hear you, that's pretty shitty. Osvaldon said on the discord that you will receive compensation for any of your properties when they get sold, so check if you got that compensation maybe. the only way your properties would have been deleted is if you haven't played longer than 30 minutes in the past month, so you couldn't have been too active. everyone who had houses that got sold are pretty frustrated just like you are. it sucks, but it kind of needed to happen so that new players get an opportunity to get a house. it definitely sucks. retarded statement. person spent hours and hours of their life to get something, they have the right to be upset if it's taken without warning.

yo jesus mate, don't spill your guts to everyone. did your shit get deleted because you were inactive for over a month? you can't expect to buy properties and then never play the server again, essentially holding those properties hostage, there was nearly no properties available on the market and tons of new people homeless due to people that bought properties and then haven't played in months. everyone goes through tough times, you'll make it through. keep your chin up

preach

@ me next time fiend @Phil McGee

ha nah, just my bestie @Phil McGee is from dublin. there's a few other guys on the server from dublin as well so you'll fit in. enjoy your time on the server dog.

probably from balleyfermot welcome mate.

does anyone else live at your house/on your ip that has 2 accounts on eclipse?

It's such a serious punishment that I can see why it's warranted, but if a player has shown some rehabilitation and hasn't committed the offense for several months then that should be taken into account. It shouldn't be so rigid that it's automatically: 1. first offense DM 60 minutes admin jail 2. second offense permanently banned from the server; with your only opportunity to return via appealing. ------------------------------ It should especially take into account the severity of each offense. If a player commits a clear DM, for instance, just driving up to another player and with no interaction just running them over; that should be a more severe punishment then 2 players communicating/RPing and escalating to a situation where DM occurs. In my opinion. Overall +1.

happened to me, uninstall rage and reinstall it. also make sure you're connecting to the correct IP, the old IP will still download files but won't let you connect to the server.