Cop balance

[Perez1025]

Yea bro me and the entire crew left over a month ago and we way happier and it sucks cause def loved ecrp but admins want cops to rule the server and unfortunately killed it

[idgafashlee]

5 hours ago, Perez1025 said:

Yea bro me and the entire crew left over a month ago and we way happier and it sucks cause def loved ecrp but admins want cops to rule the server and unfortunately killed it

a wise man once said "And please lets not turn this into a debate of us vs them. lets get some suggestions from both sides id love some cops input on stuff Crim's can improve on. "

[Quietthecutie]

Honestly at this point ive come around to the thinking that crims complaining on forums is inevitable.

Hold your pitchforks and allow me to expand.

In almost every cop v crim thread (and this is that) its the crim decrying the cop. this is logical as when a cop takes an L, they respawn with NLR and go about their day.  When a crim takes an L, if they are lucky they do that, but all cops will try to save their lives and get them to DOC (working as intended.) Cops will grumble in fchat or in general, but rarely will they lash out unless its on a thread like this. because they have nowhere near as much at risk. crims risk WAYYY more in every fight with cops (working as intended) and are almost always outnumbered and outgunned (working as intended.) 

Like i dont really know how other servers work in this, do they try to make cops v crims an even fight? are cops relegated to trying to give people tickets and flee back to HQ when someone calls the boys? because on this server its absolutely not supposed to be an even fight. crims are supposed to lose if they go toe to toe with cops straight up. and this has zip to do with staff members etc being cops. thats just how the server functions. so some of the most responsible and respected players on the server also happen to be part of the hardest factions to get into, which have the highest RP standards and a literal section in gov website where you can see them be crucified if they fuck up. colour me shocked.

One of the biggest cop v crim RP ops in recent memory was cutte throat. which involved over 100 players from both sides, the shit almost crashed the server. It was a wonderful op. most people had fun, but in no way was it even close. crims banded together to make a stand, and then lost hard. alot of Jtime, truckloads of assets, the lot. But most crims, particularly the ones orchestrating the Op, knew that going in, this was just for the hell of it.

and for me when i play my crim, thats the mentality i have. when i hear sirens its not "oh goodie, pvp" its "oh fuck, run." because if you dont dollars to donuts you are odds on to lose everything you have on you and spend the next 2 hours in DOC. When you get into it with cops, that should be your outlook. that you will be extremely fortunate to get away with this.

And then ofcourse the complaints come, because you just lost what is easily hours of game time and have nothing better but to stew about it in DOC (make DOC great again) so of course most crims will complain on forums. unfortunate and frankly a bad look but its inevitable (working as intended.) 

If you want a fair fight, try CS, Valorant, fucking roblox. play a game that intends to give you one. ECRPs dev direction does not want that. you are supposed to lose if you try to fight cops. run, hide, or be very smart and smash them when they dont expect it, and then run.

Rant, i know. TLDR; Working as intended.

Edited October 19, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Earl Mud]

It's not just the pvp part....why is that where the focus always goes...its even RP at this point and interactions. When I'm driving doing 0 crime and have cops swerve and knock me off my bike for no reason and stupid stuff like that there is an issue. 

 

[Quietthecutie]

18 minutes ago, Earl Mud said:

It's not just the pvp part....why is that where the focus always goes...its even RP at this point and interactions. When I'm driving doing 0 crime and have cops swerve and knock me off my bike for no reason and stupid stuff like that there is an issue. 

 

When did that happen? was it just a mistake or intentional? did you reach out? did you file a report for NRP or IA? did you suffer a negative RP outcome?

People can throw accusations or tell tales of whimsy all the live long day, if you feel wronged you should 100% report it. believe me when i say no one wants an asshole cop to be disciplined more than the decent ones. and a cop should not be intentionally striking someone off their bike with 0 reason unless its a simple accident, which by your candour im guessing you dont think thats the case.

But you have to be specific, this kind of vague hand waving is the worst thing you can do, as you foster resentment without any actionable evidence, and because you are not being specific you are basically putting that on all players who have LEOs. that's simply not fair.

Edited October 19, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Earl Mud]

2 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

When did that happen? was it just a mistake or intentional? did you reach out? did you file a report for NRP or IA? did you suffer a negative RP outcome?

People can throw accusations or tell tales of whimsy all the live long day, if you feel wronged you should 100% report it. believe me when i say no one wants an asshole cop to be disciplined more than the decent ones. and a cop should not be intentionally striking someone off their bike with 0 reason unless its a simple accident, which by your candour im guessing you dont think thats the case.

But you have to be specific, this kind of vague hand waving is the worst thing you can do, as you foster resentment without any actionable evidence, and because you are not being specific you are basically putting that on all players who have LEOs. that's simply not fair.

Right around when off grid left. I put in a report 4 and asked admins to tell the 5 cops in sandy to chill out cause they tried to hit us not once, not twice, not three, not four, but five times in a row while Lost was driving around. Then 15 min later it happened again. Idk the names of them but they said they had a shitty day and they didnt give a fuck. They were baiting a reaction out of us. This happens a few times a week. Im not gonna spend hours putting in reports. Id rather play the game then sit putting in IA and reports half the day. This happens a few times a week with some cops being egregious for 0 reason. Im a criminal who is rarely caught, doesnt mess with cops, and still will randomly get "trolled" by cops being crazy for no reason while doing zero crime. This started happening more and more about 2 months ago. When its dead and no ones around or they had a bad day they start fucking with crims who legit arent even doing anything illegal or harassing anyone. 

Edited October 19, 2025 by Earl Mud

[imran]

3 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

7 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

and for me when i play my crim, thats the mentality i have. when i hear sirens its not "oh goodie, pvp" its "oh fuck, run." because if you dont dollars to donuts you are odds on to lose everything you have on you and spend the next 2 hours in DOC. When you get into it with cops, that should be your outlook. that you will be extremely fortunate to get away with this.

And then ofcourse the complaints come, because you just lost what is easily hours of game time and have nothing better but to stew about it in DOC (make DOC great again) so of course most crims will complain on forums. unfortunate and frankly a bad look but its inevitable (working as intended.) 

If you want a fair fight, try CS, Valorant, fucking roblox. play a game that intends to give you one. ECRPs dev direction does not want that. you are supposed to lose if you try to fight cops. run, hide, or be very smart and smash them when they dont expect it, and then run.

 

I respect your POV  this is an RP server, not CS or Valorant, which are based on limited-time action rather than storytelling gameplay.

But you got one thing wrong: the current ideology of management’s big problem isn’t pay-to-win or pay-to-progress faster (which is debatably better). The real issue is that the system rewards legal roleplayers (LEOs) while ruining illegal roleplayers’ gameplay, and I’ll explain why.

A LEO’s main IC target is illegal roleplayers. Their duty is to create defense against illegal RPers by building a risk–reward scenario. In this server,the loss for illegal RPers can cost them hours in jail and a huge amount of wealth (weapons/tools/fines) that took hours to grind. So if an illegal roleplayer fails against LEOs, they can get ~5 hours of punishment between jail and re-grinding. On the other side, LEOs face no real risk–reward gameplay: they die → spawn at hospital and get back on duty; lose weapons → get free high-end kits; need backup → call over radio and five units show up; and they still get a 12k paycheck for having fun whether they win or lose.

Again, this is a roleplay server not for grinding assets, chasing virtual positions, or constant PvP, but to hve fun and making a story you want within logic limits.

My suggestion isn’t to simply “balance” illegal and legal RP, but to make a fun environment. Don’t force players to roleplay the way management wants; let them roleplay how they want.

1. Remove all offroad and sports cruisers from LEOs (Kamacho / Hakuchou / Terminus). Keep normal cruisers (Buffalo STX, Vapid Scout, etc.) with a top speed of 200 km/h (not 210, not 220). High-speed chases should rely on helicopters, not supercars.

2. Remove one hour of paycheck from LEOs each time they die on duty.

3. Maximum IC jail time should be 1 hour and maximum fine $10,000.

4. Increase trucker/bus job payment to 1.5×.

5. Remove the ability to add HSW to vehicles, but keep already tuned ones ,this creates rarity while stopping the current gameplay mess.

6. Decrease visual vehicle deformation so older GTA V vehicles are usable again instead of everyone using the newest cars models(new GTA V cars don’t deform as much).

7. Fully restore drug job system so illegal factions aren’t 80% stuck inside labs. Aim to make the city active with secret-owned labs and planting farms, but make those processes slower than current public ones to balance profit.
   
   
   reality

vs eclipse sad  reality
 

 

Edited October 19, 2025 by imran

[AnnoyingOne]

9 minutes ago, imran said:

and they still get a 12k paycheck for having fun whether they win or lose.

The fact that you are saying this, shows how little knowledge of how stuff actually works you have.

 

Believe it or not, but Terminus is actually slower than Scout and PD Kamacho is actually worse than civilian one

[imran]

44 minutes ago, AnnoyingOne said:

The fact that you are saying this, shows how little knowledge of how stuff actually works you have.

 

Believe it or not, but Terminus is actually slower than Scout and PD Kamacho is actually worse than civilian one

once i was in a vivanite, doing 195 in highway 205 sometimes, and that kamacho was like 10-25kph faster  than me,for terminis its crazy fast and feels unreal, and yes the cruiser scout have more speed than civilian one.

and just to remind you, illegal RP doesn't only have LEO side enemy, but also other crim enemies, and all am asking now is make cops limited on ressources, and reduce the loss penalty (jail/fine) so both can enjoy, we here to ROLEPLAY , not to copy paste in real life.

i personally stoped playing the server 3 weeks now,because i don't want to RP legaly and im not ready to take heavy punishments and waste tmy time just to RP that way.
 

 

Edited October 19, 2025 by imran

[Eliza]

My main issue, and something I’ve been noticing a lot, is that we’ve got gang detectives acting like actual criminals. They’re rolling around shirtless with t-shirt masks in common criminal cars, yelling stuff like "shit gang shit gang" after winning shootouts, and spamming /trace off a macro with zero RP behind it, and nothing ever happens to them for it. This is part of why people aren't having fun right now. The ones who are supposed to be upholding the law are acting just as bad as the criminals, and it ruins the experience when it keeps getting brushed off.

[Demonmit1]

GND on both sides has an internal rule of not being allowed to have alternate characters that are affiliated with criminal gangs, and you're not even allowed to join an official for 3 months after you resign on your LEO character. I sorta get why, it fixes the perception of GND not being able to play favorites or use their GND power against rival factions to their crim alt, but... the question needs to be asked. If LFM/PD/SD cant trust someone not to metagame, why are they allowed to be GND?

[alexalex303]

2 hours ago, Demonmit1 said:

GND on both sides has an internal rule of not being allowed to have alternate characters that are affiliated with criminal gangs, and you're not even allowed to join an official for 3 months after you resign on your LEO character. I sorta get why, it fixes the perception of GND not being able to play favorites or use their GND power against rival factions to their crim alt, but... the question needs to be asked. If LFM/PD/SD cant trust someone not to metagame, why are they allowed to be GND?

It's also a matter of perception. It's not that they're not trusted, it's that even if they played it by the book, if John Doe is in empire and also in GND, and he's doing stuff against Empire's enemies, people will make accusations regardless of the facts. 

[EL Doggo]

3 hours ago, Eliza said:

My main issue, and something I’ve been noticing a lot, is that we’ve got gang detectives acting like actual criminals. They’re rolling around shirtless with t-shirt masks in common criminal cars, yelling stuff like "shit gang shit gang" after winning shootouts, and spamming /trace off a macro with zero RP behind it, and nothing ever happens to them for it. This is part of why people aren't having fun right now. The ones who are supposed to be upholding the law are acting just as bad as the criminals, and it ruins the experience when it keeps getting brushed off.

this right here, cops are acting like a gang members. Cops acting like villains xD 

take this clip for example, im here trying to create some rp, make have some form of interaction with said cops... you know do doggo things and just be a little annoyance.

"Drive On You Dickhead"
"I Will Shoot Your Tyres"
*i hop out after they hit my car to have some banter or some ROLEPLAY*
1 hops into my unlocked car and somehow turns my engine on (rule break)
"Yeah See Ya In A Bit"

Zero interest in RP'ing and clearly acting like a cop shouldn't 

and before some dick rider comes in here "make a report" "make an IA report" 
i did and i have zero idea what happened in relations to punishments im just gonna assume there wasn't one

HOWEVER!
Crims... some of you are the exact same, labs all day, PvP all day, and has zero interest in roleplaying, and quiet frankly if i was a cop having to deal with "No one even knows who you are! im more known than you!" OR cops having to deal with players being salty over ONE interaction and letting that ONE interaction determine your whole outlook on cops.

both sides are guilty of just being assholes and i think to move on and make changes for the better cops and crims need to have these discussions among themselves to see what works and what doesn't.

people want cops nerfed but crims have an advantage majority of the time, the thing that lets the cops down is a few rotten apples and some daft OOC & IC rules dictating their playstyle. 

i will leave with this to stir a pot

why do cops need sports cars that go 240.... easy, its to have epic long amazing RP chases throughout the city.... so why the fuck do they also need a helicopter flying above said chase? imo its one or the other, they do not need both 

feel free to hate me people but change must be made     

Edited October 19, 2025 by EL Doggo

[Cup]

"why do cops need sports cars that go 240.... easy, its to have epic long amazing RP chases throughout the city.... so why the fuck do they also need a helicopter flying above said chase? imo its one or the other, they do not need both "

 

only going to reply to this bit as its because to put it simply noone evades in anything that does less then 220-240 anymore.  Even cars that really shouldn't do 240 (kamachos) do because of people (on both sides) having 350+ fps 

 

edited: Wanted to add im not saying this is ideal just that thats how it is at the moment.

[tigerpet15]

6 hours ago, imran said:

I respect your POV  this is an RP server, not CS or Valorant, which are based on limited-time action rather than storytelling gameplay.

But you got one thing wrong: the current ideology of management’s big problem isn’t pay-to-win or pay-to-progress faster (which is debatably better). The real issue is that the system rewards legal roleplayers (LEOs) while ruining illegal roleplayers’ gameplay, and I’ll explain why.

A LEO’s main IC target is illegal roleplayers. Their duty is to create defense against illegal RPers by building a risk–reward scenario. In this server,the loss for illegal RPers can cost them hours in jail and a huge amount of wealth (weapons/tools/fines) that took hours to grind. So if an illegal roleplayer fails against LEOs, they can get ~5 hours of punishment between jail and re-grinding. On the other side, LEOs face no real risk–reward gameplay: they die → spawn at hospital and get back on duty; lose weapons → get free high-end kits; need backup → call over radio and five units show up; and they still get a 12k paycheck for having fun whether they win or lose.

Again, this is a roleplay server not for grinding assets, chasing virtual positions, or constant PvP, but to hve fun and making a story you want within logic limits.

My suggestion isn’t to simply “balance” illegal and legal RP, but to make a fun environment. Don’t force players to roleplay the way management wants; let them roleplay how they want.

1. Remove all offroad and sports cruisers from LEOs (Kamacho / Hakuchou / Terminus). Keep normal cruisers (Buffalo STX, Vapid Scout, etc.) with a top speed of 200 km/h (not 210, not 220). High-speed chases should rely on helicopters, not supercars.

2. Remove one hour of paycheck from LEOs each time they die on duty.

3. Maximum IC jail time should be 1 hour and maximum fine $10,000.

4. Increase trucker/bus job payment to 1.5×.

5. Remove the ability to add HSW to vehicles, but keep already tuned ones ,this creates rarity while stopping the current gameplay mess.

6. Decrease visual vehicle deformation so older GTA V vehicles are usable again instead of everyone using the newest cars models(new GTA V cars don’t deform as much).

7. Fully restore drug job system so illegal factions aren’t 80% stuck inside labs. Aim to make the city active with secret-owned labs and planting farms, but make those processes slower than current public ones to balance profit.
   
   
   reality

vs eclipse sad  reality
 

 

Ehm. As a long time Crim RPer (4 years) and current SD main Rper. I understand what you are saying. But the reality is that most cops without acess to supercars have no chance of catching vehicles which are actually evading (usually 240 cars). Simply, there needs to be balance allways. Honestly I would much rather see more equlised vehicle performance so people would drive lore friendly cars and pursuits would be slower and more realistic with cars which make sense for crims to own (like vans etc.). I dont mind loosing certain vehicles I could drive on duty for this change. Like having chases of sports cars by LEOs sportcars is unrealistic and I honestly am not fan of them. TBH I think that the sentences or crim economy needs to change because loosing fro crims is way more emotional than LEOs. On the other hand crims can gain more and faster. Last LEOs are dependent on high quality RP from crims and their creativty and at least in SD there is huge internal push to value said RP and make sure that is "rewarded" and not "ruined". I cannot agree with the idea of removing certain cop cars without other changes on crim side. Having heli on a vehicle in pursuit is not ultimate win as soon as they drive under whatever air is lost and giving crims chance to evade every time steals fun from LEOs and crims at the same time because its not gonna be challenge anymore. These weights are so hard to balance and yes I think that LEOs might be little stronger but thats by design but Id be much rather weaker as a LEO with more RP interaction than having crims demotevated and scared to pull off crazy creative RP. I dont care about winning/loosing I just wanna have fun and want crims to kidnap me take hostages and come up with anything creative.

[HobGoblin]

7 hours ago, Eliza said:

and nothing ever happens to them for it.

That's just not true. You also can't be holding cops to this magical perfect high standard when the server standards have dropped overall, people make mistakes and get punished for them. Noone will be perfect 100% of the time and actions do get taken when reported correctly.

You can see publicly all the suspensions here https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/search.php?keywords=suspension&fid[0]=127.
Just because a cop wasn't suspended doesn't mean they haven't been punished internally which effects them within PD.

Edited October 20, 2025 by HobGoblin

[Macca]

PD server let’s be serious, cops be bringing out air 1 for robbing stores whoever said just run if you hear sirens is wild. You get the whole PD ramming you - taking tires plus air 1 so either way you go jail. If you do pull over it’s always ‘hop out we have an on going investigation’ it’s a jail simulation for crims and nothing else. Then you have nothing to do in jail when you get inside. Crims have nothing to do and that’s why the majority of the gangs don’t play here anymore.

[Earl Mud]

31 minutes ago, HobGoblin said:

That's just not true. You also can't be holding cops to this magical perfect high standard when the server standards have dropped overall, people make mistakes and get punished for them. Noone will be perfect 100% of the time and actions do get taken when reported correctly.

You can see publicly all the suspensions here https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/search.php?keywords=suspension&fid[0]=127.
Just because a cop wasn't suspended doesn't mean they haven't been punished internally which effects them within PD.

What a lot of people are asking for isn't a high standard. If we do half the stuff we are discussing as a crim we'd risk our tiers and such.

[Bala]

Like I said to someone earlier on, there is no point trying to engage with some of these people because they're ignorant to the point of not being able to tell them anything. I'd certainly welcome to an intelligent discussion on how the PD faction can reasonably adjust itself to help support the criminal player base out of character but we won't find it in this thread. Too many of you want it to be 'do what the fuck you like' simulator. 

We've unfortunately enabled too many cry babies in the last year or so, who want to complain about anything and everything. Cops, especially PD, are ruining the server and they should be this and that. I'm not talking about people with legitimate grievances, because PD and SD isn't perfect either. I think there should be a distinction there too.

I didn't see any threads from criminal players complaining about the Niobes going 240, when the police vehicles couldn't stick with them for more than 10 seconds. Because at the end of the day, you didn't give a shit until the scales were balanced.

I'll single someone out on this thread, @EL Doggo.
I have time and respect for him, because although he plays for the other team, I think his take was actually pretty balanced and somewhat accurate, although there are some minor discrepancies. I think if more criminals, especially criminal leaders, were on the server like El Doggo, then OOC understanding and relations between cop factions and crim factions would be a lot better.

The correct balance for a roleplay server is with the scales tipped in the favour of law enforcement, especially the longer a situation goes on. It's not intended to be an even 50-50 split.

A problem I think we have though is that the criminal activities lack the flexibility to allow for criminals to undertake the activities in different ways and play them differently. So, they play to the meta and responding cops then also play to the meta. Fleeca banks are a great example of this, you've got one tiny corridor, one exit and if cops arrive with people inside, you're beat. If you come out, you go to prison or pillbox. If we come in, we're not fearing for our lives.

I see people talking about cops being excessive on traffic stops. We're starving for stuff to do, everyone is gunna jump on those.
I see people talking about cops raiding labs, it's one of the only activities crims do.

For those people suggesting we lose money if we die as cops, you seriously think adding consequences for losing to law enforcement factions is a good fucking idea? LMAO. You'd really get some fucking W Cop action then.

I'm somewhat optimistic that the developers are going to shake things up in the next few months, because i think we can all agree that we need it. I just hope that as many of you are going to keep an open mind about what that looks like, because there are some things that will need to happen that some of you will not like but ultimately, they're for the greater good. The health of the server is all that matters, not just PD or your crim factions.

Edited October 20, 2025 by Bala

[Blazendary]

I’m not gonna add a whole lot of ranting but from my experience as a crim is just lack of new stuff to do. Being a NA player myself and not being on during prime time really limits things to do, pretty much only is cooking, chopping, and house robbery’s with lab PVP. If there was more focus on the crim side instead of nerfing certain features then I feel the population would grow. When was the last time a major crim feature got added? We got things added for PD, new vehicles and what not, but nothing new for crims. So that’s one of the main things. 

 

But also certain rules in place as well, I’ve been apart of certain bank robbery’s for example that are just “forced losses.” For example recently, a few gangs got together and decided to rob the main bank in the city near legion, not the smartest choice but why not. Of course PD, pulls up almost instantly and is surrounded. They point there weapons and that immediately kills any other RP. Being forced to comply with FRP when releasticly a cop wouldn’t shoot you for fleeing. I’m not saying running from several cops with heavy weapons is okay, but when you got only 3 officers with lethal weapons out, and more criminals tbag out number the cops, how is everyone under FRP? Everyone at this situation was mostly arrested and yet it was still reported and punishments were issued. From my experience if something doesn’t go 100% someone else’s way, you get reported for it. 

 

I’ve also had situations where we had a RP hostage during a bank robbery, and were trying to empty the bank out, of course not the smartest choice and will most likely get caught, but instead of even trying to rp it out, we had cops storm the bank and just shoot everyone. And let alone the hostage was an officer of their own who got shot. It’s just a lot of the win mentality in certain situations makes crims not even wanna RP with certain officers. 

 

I have had some very fun RPs as well even when I get caught, but it’s when I’m gunned and forced to loose is when I have a problem. Another situation was a year or 2 ago i’d had a hostage in DOC in the gym and was standing behind him, was then proceeded to be sniped in the head through prison bars with no reason. Again not even having a chance to escape or what not.

 

If there were more scripted features and options for players to do that didn’t require ALTRP, people would be more active.

[imran]

I do understand how complicated this topic is, and let's be real, copyying real life into RP 100$ would never be fun, most of us are here for fun and enjoyement, not to grind or get the wins, based on my humble 700 hours played, which is not alot on this server, and total of 6000 hours played on oother RP servers, i come wiith this adjustement that i believe its the best option for the whole player base.

1)  reduce all IC fines down to 40percent of its origianl cost, means 10k fine will be 4k instead
2)  make salary taxes 20 max
3)  make 1hour is the maximum jail time, and reduce  all the current jail time to 50%
4)  remove HSW from /modview menu, and keep current vehicles equiped with hsw, so it will make a rarety.
5)  auto restore players items after ic jail without need to other player ((LEO) intraction
6) remove all meta vehicles from PD/SD factions, means they will use normal cruisers and vapid scout or STX as high tier, while keeping other cars like sentinel gts , jagulars ,dominator GTX to goverment LEOs.

Edited October 20, 2025 by imran

[EL Doggo]

14 hours ago, Bala said:

 

I see people talking about cops being excessive on traffic stops. We're starving for stuff to do, everyone is gunna jump on those.
I see people talking about cops raiding labs, it's one of the only activities crims do.

 

people fail to see this, the RP for cops is at a minimum, there isn't much for them to do besides drive around, chase the odd sports car or respond to shoot outs.

i do not play a cop and probably never will but i know for a fact if i was a cop and there is nothing to do, im gonna be out LOOKING for it even if that is labs or dumb car searches. sometimes its better to think why do cops act like this rather than just pulling pitchforks out and going for the throat,

remember crims get all the updates, all the changes, all server rules tailored for them, meanwhile cops get nothing and i think thats how we've got to this current state... cops need some buffs, nerfs, changes, updates, scripts, better UI, more variety.

and these changes (like OTHER SERVERS) should happened monthly to keep the server fresh and ever changing 

[Josh]

On 10/20/2025 at 12:12 PM, imran said:

I do understand how complicated this topic is, and let's be real, copyying real life into RP 100$ would never be fun, most of us are here for fun and enjoyement, not to grind or get the wins, based on my humble 700 hours played, which is not alot on this server, and total of 6000 hours played on oother RP servers, i come wiith this adjustement that i believe its the best option for the whole player base.

1)  reduce all IC fines down to 40percent of its origianl cost, means 10k fine will be 4k instead
2)  make salary taxes 20 max
3)  make 1hour is the maximum jail time, and reduce  all the current jail time to 50%
4)  remove HSW from /modview menu, and keep current vehicles equiped with hsw, so it will make a rarety.
5)  auto restore players items after ic jail without need to other player ((LEO) intraction
6) remove all meta vehicles from PD/SD factions, means they will use normal cruisers and vapid scout or STX as high tier, while keeping other cars like sentinel gts , jagulars ,dominator GTX to goverment LEOs.

This is a roleplay server, with all due respect man. If you're not here to roleplay, then why are you here? If you want more servers that's not full Roleplay servers this is not it, most of your posts has mainly suggested to remove Roleplay from the server and that's the opposite of the server. 

Your posts to remove Mechanics, SADOC, and such yet none of them any suggestions to create roleplay. You have just stated suggestions to remove Roleplay. Please look through and see what your plans for if you want a Cops V Robber server go find some other server, ECRP is meant to open up roleplay not lose it. I have had some interesting and Fun roleplay with SADOC and Mechanics removing them takes that away.

Now for me to back on about this topic:

I do agree there should be changes that help, but at the end of the day Crim's are not meant to win and you got to be aware of that. The server is in a way to make it, so Cops has the upper hand to control, and there are still times where Crim's win and occasionally it brings in fun and Interesting Roleplay.

As a Detective for LSPD there has been situations where I disagree with and situations that are fine and times where Crims enjoy it and have fun giving interesting roleplay to ECRP. Unfortunately, lately there has been lack of updates and it's hurting the server, LEO not getting updates, crims, and more on. So yes, I believe there may need some changes but also believe that at times you're not looking at the big picture.

[Quietthecutie]

On 10/20/2025 at 5:12 PM, imran said:

I do understand how complicated this topic is, and let's be real, copyying real life into RP 100$ would never be fun, most of us are here for fun and enjoyement, not to grind or get the wins, based on my humble 700 hours played, which is not alot on this server, and total of 6000 hours played on oother RP servers, i come wiith this adjustement that i believe its the best option for the whole player base.

1)  reduce all IC fines down to 40percent of its origianl cost, means 10k fine will be 4k instead
2)  make salary taxes 20 max
3)  make 1hour is the maximum jail time, and reduce  all the current jail time to 50%
4)  remove HSW from /modview menu, and keep current vehicles equiped with hsw, so it will make a rarety.
5)  auto restore players items after ic jail without need to other player ((LEO) intraction
6) remove all meta vehicles from PD/SD factions, means they will use normal cruisers and vapid scout or STX as high tier, while keeping other cars like sentinel gts , jagulars ,dominator GTX to goverment LEOs.

I was sorta holding back to see if this was a bit but by god you are genuinely serious and i find that honest to god hilarious. this isnt so much an adjustment as it is a removal of a spine. if you want the kind of powertrip / respawn experience that these changes would bring, maybe play another server more or idk, single player.

This is you literally taking the difficulty slider of crim and sliding it all the way down to "babys first"

Edited October 22, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[imran]

On 10/22/2025 at 3:22 PM, Quietthecutie said:

I was sorta holding back to see if this was a bit but by god you are genuinely serious and i find that honest to god hilarious. this isnt so much an adjustment as it is a removal of a spine. if you want the kind of powertrip / respawn experience that these changes would bring, maybe play another server more or idk, single player.

This is you literally taking the difficulty slider of crim and sliding it all the way down to "babys first"

Funny thing is, you’re preaching about ‘spine’ when LEOs on this server have infinite lives, zero real loss, and walk out of death with a fresh badge and a smile. You call shorter jail times a ‘difficulty slider,’ but where’s that energy when cops respawn every five minutes like it’s GTA Online?park / unpark their vehicles to get it fixed.
Some of us actually have in real lives priorities , not everyone can waste three hours staring at a jail wall pretending it’s hardcore RP. If you think that’s ‘spine,’ maybe check who’s really playing on easy mode.

again 1hours maximum jail time is perfect, just imagine the activity increase will be if this suggestion implemented , everyone going to enjoy including LEOs !!

Edited October 26, 2025 by imran