Remove combat MG mk2's and carbine mk2's / nerf them

[Gustavo Prez]

31 minutes ago, CodySoulDreamer said:

no. combat mg mk2 balanced way for gangs with non armor import to help beat rich fellas with 200 health 24/7 who try to bull doze.

how is this fair? if you use it don't you think they will use it too? a gang should not be punished for being successful, don't beef successful gangs if you cant handle the beef, that's a you issue.

[alexalex303]

Friction is starting to happen because people are being greedy. Some people said they're so broken just remove them, no refund. Then, people said, remove them and add a command to refund at import. Then, people said, I paid more than import I should get more than that cause tax.

It's like. At what point do you compromise as well? Nevermind the fact that @Demonmit1 probably sold 50% of the supply in circulation at IMPORT with no tax, it's impossible to create a command that gives you what you spent + tax, and like clank said, how many were looted and this is just free money?

If you never compromise on anything, this is how agreements turn into disagreements.

Refunding at import price is the most realistic and fair solution, anything more is just being greedy, in my opinion.

[Jay_Valentino]

So far everyone has agreed the gun needs to be removed. It was tested and added into the server and now needs to be removed due to how over powered it is. We are all mutually agreeing

Either drop the damage the gun does or just offer refunds for the gun the same way we could refund attachments (/refundattachments) like a year ago. 

The gun isn't a measly 7k like the tables were, the combat mg mk2 is 37.5k IMPORT that's not including tax that some may have paid but getting at least the import back for a gun which they rightfully paid for and collected from a drop is fair imo. If crims no longer have it nor will PD or SD.  I don't understand what further discussion needs to be made its just unnecessary comments that will lead nowhere.

[Hubie]

1 hour ago, alexalex303 said:

refunding at import price is the most realistic and fair solution, anything more is just being greedy, in my opinion.

agreed +1. 

[Clank]

5 hours ago, Kon said:

you're acting like the gun is fundamentally broken/bugged, they are just the best gun on the server, priced accordingly. plent of us bought them without know how good they were, pd/sd have access to them also, why are you suggesting only crims take a massive L and lose money that we spent time getting. I refuse to believe you thinking all our money going poof is fair

If the gun is not broken then why is everyone here lobbying to remove it?

[CalvinKlein]

2 hours ago, Jay_Valentino said:

So far everyone has agreed the gun needs to be removed. It was tested and added into the server and now needs to be removed due to how over powered it is. We are all mutually agreeing

Either drop the damage the gun does or just offer refunds for the gun the same way we could refund attachments (/refundattachments) like a year ago. 

The gun isn't a measly 7k like the tables were, the combat mg mk2 is 37.5k IMPORT that's not including tax that some may have paid but getting at least the import back for a gun which they rightfully paid for and collected from a drop is fair imo. If crims no longer have it nor will PD or SD.  I don't understand what further discussion needs to be made its just unnecessary comments that will lead nowhere.

yeah keep in mind the logic behind tables was that "you already made your money back from them"

[DoubleA]

Honestly I like the idea of just saying screw it, remove them August 1st, we have to use as many of them as we can and the rest get removed. People can strip ammo and attachments, just the guns are deleted. 
 

but screw a refund command, cartel can buy them back, would be something fun to RP. 
 

It could be free money for crims like Alex/Clank said, but I could loot a Bullpup mk2 and it’s the same thing, I can resell it and make money on a gun that I didn’t order the same way. So why only for this one gun we make things difficult? 
 

crims get money for it, the server entirely gets better with one gun being removed. Badabing badaboom. Then we start focusing on more things to do that don’t strictly make PVP the goal

[CalvinKlein]

25 minutes ago, DoubleA said:

Honestly I like the idea of just saying screw it, remove them August 1st, we have to use as many of them as we can and the rest get removed. People can strip ammo and attachments, just the guns are deleted. 
 

but screw a refund command, cartel can buy them back, would be something fun to RP. 
 

It could be free money for crims like Alex/Clank said, but I could loot a Bullpup mk2 and it’s the same thing, I can resell it and make money on a gun that I didn’t order the same way. So why only for this one gun we make things difficult? 
 

crims get money for it, the server entirely gets better with one gun being removed. Badabing badaboom. Then we start focusing on more things to do that don’t strictly make PVP the goal

I find this to be the best proposed solution

[Nettz]

3 hours ago, DoubleA said:

but screw a refund command, cartel can buy them back, would be something fun to RP. 

What a great suggestion, such an upstanding member of the server. I applaud you Chase Vincero.

[Demonmit1]

19 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

Nevermind the fact that @Demonmit1 probably sold 50% of the supply in circulation at IMPORT with no tax,

My bad gang 

[Homast]

On 6/17/2025 at 7:24 PM, Spizor said:

and you got no refund for your tables.

You can pawn em.

[David Coast]

I agree with the notorious and probably muscular Chase Vincero.

Remove them pending a set date, hopefully Cartel would buy them back and we could ICly say that the Combat MG MK2’s that were imported were shitty Chinese guns and constantly broke. Maybe the police will run a gun buy back scheme and we get $.60 on the dollar of other RP opportunities will happen.
 

This way people have to go through RP avenues instead of just having a command.
 

Or just secretly nerf the MG MK2 and no one will care anyway what happens to it.

Edited June 19, 2025 by David Coast

[Spizor]

On 6/18/2025 at 5:31 AM, Lincoln Derose said:

How come everyone can come to an agreement besides you?

Can you inform me or quote the exact wording from my sentences that say I disagree?

[Tomvd682]

Give everyone MG mk2 to even it out. Solved, you're welcome. @staff you can close the topic

[Jordan]

On 6/18/2025 at 3:27 AM, CodySoulDreamer said:

no. combat mg mk2 balanced way for gangs with non armor import to help beat rich fellas with 200 health 24/7 who try to bull doze.

As a crim, there is absolutely nothing balanced about the Combat MG Mk2