QOL Changes

[Lewis]

Hey boys

So I'm  looking to understand what content/activities we could introduce to reduce players fighting players and the overall amount of shoot outs, encourage more player interaction. I am not going to ever agree with the argument that you need script support to roleplay or keep to a lore, sure script support is helpful but everyone (hopefully) has the ability to roleplay, stick to a lore and create natural roleplay opportunities through in-character means.

I am not just looking for criminal ideas, I'm talking about civilian and over-all changes which could improve quality of life.


Couple of housekeeping rules: - 

1. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all

2. This thread will be open for 48 hours

3.. We're not going to add things in on whims, I know and am forever grateful for the suggestions but I'm looking to see up to date suggestions and others in one place. If you want to refer to a specific suggestion, feel free to link it.

4. Stay on topic, this isn't going to be another "backup/crim vs PD thread"

5 Thank you for your participation, positive things only.

6. Please provide examples of things, take your time with replies if possible!

7. These rules can be changed at any time!

Life is short, make it sweet. 

- Lewis

[Normal]

I think the backup breach rule should be revamped, at the current state alliances are simply "i wont kill you in labs", and to promote less pvp can we please get back the private labs, also keep a more steady watch on players that only want fights, robbing everyone in labs, shouting demands from outside a lab when you dont know how many are in, also a more fixed rule on house robberies, the ui is metagame 100% but staff have different opinions every time this is just my take and idk how the rest would think about it 

Edited May 27, 2025 by Normal

[Alexis Norman]

I cannot come up with something..but maybe some freelance activities which involves 2 or more players, making it more interactive.

[CoolDudeChillin]

Outside of needing more support for civilian activities and promoting people to be regular civilians by giving them non militarized jobs. Removing the militarization of DOC, and GOV would be a good start. If you dont want people shooting eachother. 
I'm not gonna sit here and argue with people and ill end on this we have 2 years tops of quality gameplay before GTA 6 sitting here and arguing change isn't going to help its time to accept some change 

 

Changing Burgershot into a faction job would be cool

creating different niche business through the production of different foods or objects

creating something that overseas jobs or creating something that can put veteran players in postions to teach newer players how to join these jobs with less paperwork headaches and more in the city 

providing a communal place for people to go to to meet up or always be would be nice too 

Edited May 27, 2025 by CoolDudeChillin

[DaddyShrood]

I think giving a lot more Dev support to DOC both as a faction and place would be a huge +1 for everyone. Prison shouldn't be somewhere you want to end up however it also shouldn't feel like you've just been given the most boring experience of your life.

[Kevin Jacobs]

1 minute ago, Normal said:

I think the backup breach rule should be revamped, at the current state alliances are simply "i wont kill you in labs", and to promote less pvp can we please get back the private labs, also keep a more steady watch on players that only want fights, robbing everyone in labs, shouting demands from outside a lab when you dont know how many are in, this is just my take and idk how the rest would think about it 

Even if we don't remove it just like allow 2 gangs to be able to help each other without them taking over the server and making it so only those two gangs can survive

 

[Normal]

Just now, Kevin Jacobs said:

Even if we don't remove it just like allow 2 gangs to be able to help each other without them taking over the server and making it so only those two gangs can survive

yea like we dont need another council but something where you can call allys for help if youre actually down bad

[Lewis]

Please give examples when you can, forgot to mention it but I'll edit too.

Take your time and respond it's not a race!

[Kevin Jacobs]

1 minute ago, DaddyShrood said:

I think giving a lot more Dev support to DOC both as a faction and place would be a huge +1 for everyone. Prison shouldn't be somewhere you want to end up however it also shouldn't feel like you've just been given the most boring experience of your life.

I agree with this like the way DOC guards let us cut grass if we can get like a script that would allow us to be able to clock on while in DOC and cut the grass and earns stamps everytime we park or when we get released. I would love to see many different things like giving AMU their own hospital for actual surgical proceedures and lets say hospitals stays and such.

[Kevin Jacobs]

Another thing i think would be good is since Law enforcement or any faction with a Panic Button are able to click their panics when injuried i believe if they can reach their radio then we should have the script to where we can speak over a radio and ask for help so we are not left there to die if a corrupt cop closes our call or there are none around

 

[Bullsevil]

This one is specifically for criminal side, i firmly believe that it should be non-rp or metagaming for someone to roll around checking doors for house robberies. You would NEVER be robbed IRL while doing or finishing a house robbery, i think the only way you should be allowed to, is if you actually follow someone to a house and watch them break in. which unfortunately would require someone to have POV of them following but it is heart breaking to finish a robbery and be robbed after you did all the work, making sure you don't notify PD, or making sure you're hidden, etc. I know it's a controversial topic but it's not promoting RP allowing it to happen, all it does is get you robbed, kidnapped or killed without and fun to it. and you get left without anything, hopefully you're not zip tied and phone battery taken which makes the overall experience shitty.

[Normal]

1 minute ago, Kevin Jacobs said:

i believe if they can reach their radio then we should have the script to where we can speak over a radio and ask for help so we are not left there to die if a corrupt cop closes our call or there are none around

 

yoooo big +1 i dont understand how im injured yet cant move my arm to grab a radio

[Kevin Jacobs]

But i believe that the stigma currently for myself is i don't feel as tho i can have fun and go to labs since all people seem to do now is clap and shoot you for no reason bar to steal shit which does not give a fun experience but if we could get the personnel tables back it would be fantastic

 

[SquirtleSquad]

2 minutes ago, Kevin Jacobs said:

I would love to see many different things like giving AMU their own hospital for actual surgical proceedures and lets say hospitals stays and such.

As much as I would absolutely love this, this would require a lot of mod development, and we'd have to ensure that the doors would remain unlocked. However, as Head of AMU, I can tell you now that the amount of AMU RP that comes in wouldn't make this worth the time and effort for development and modding. We currently have an ICU/OR ward, and we have private patient rooms, however this requires a member of MD, preferably AMU, to be there as we have to lock doors and such.

[astrx]

I will echo what Lewis has said. Comments regarding the "current state of LEO" or anything similar will not be accepted here. This a thread to suggest actual additions to the server and quality of life updates, please don't schizo post.

If anything like this is posted it will be removed and warnings will be given.

[AtlasOLimbo]

Businesses have very little script support especially when compared to legal factions, this results in very little business roleplay.
- /roll where you can either set the amount of dice and their faces, e.g: 1d6
or an upper bound such as /roll 1000 and it pulls any number between. This in my opinion would add a lot of fun roleplay opportunities as 1d6 is rather limiting and is only a handful of lines of code.

- An invoice system where a business gets paid rather then the player handling the transaction.

- The ability for businesses to create custom items/foodstuffs, possibly as a reward for reaching a certain legal tier. (A 3D printer was seemingly fully finished, I do not know where this has gone/what state it is in.)

There's a lot of very good suggestions that have been made over the last few years that have received near or zero attention from decision makers (management+) which I believe is a gripe most players have and why more suggestions don't get made. I hope this thread will remedy this.
e.g: 

 

[Normal]

Big suggestion, Rolling papers, why should i have to "cook" a blunt, if i have weed i should be able to roll it anywhere, the fact that blunts are required to be cooked is a bit wild, maybe something from a cash dealer like rolling papers and a grinder, let me grind the plants, roll it up, even have like a 75 sec times (as blunts are) to roll it up

[SteveD]

I think too much revolves around drug labs. We're basically feeding the problem by making that the primary goal of any criminal, it will always lead to gunfights. I think we should triple/quadruple the amount of loot received from other script things such as regular civilian jobs and robberies (stores, banks, atms, etc)

If those pay more, they will choose labs less. And it's a very easy development change. Will it harm the economy? No, don't believe so, it's just a shift of coin from 1 script part to another (labs to other script elements)

[Jaxxon]

GTA as a game is centered around cars so a script for racing would be cool. An app for example that can notify you if a race is being set up. I don't have all the details, but I assume smarter people than me can go deep with this.

[Teenyinnit]

*Re-vamp DOC. make it less bring to be in. Honestly the reason I get so mad sometimes is because Jail is the most boring 2-3 hours ever. I need something other than picking up litter.

 

*Allow backups but once a week - just like we can only kidnap a cop once a week as a gang we should be allowed one back up a week - this goes two ways. once you've backup a gang once you cannot do it for the remainder of the week.

 

*Add more marijuana zones, or active HIDDEN labs. (like desert lab)

 

ok new idea....

*You've added Cayo - why not do a treasure hunt and actually use it for something. Find the treasure and earn 100k?
The treasure spawns at random in hard to find/reach locations on Cayo when the server population reaches 250 for the day.
This would give Civs the ability to become "treasure hunters" and Crims the ability to be "modern Pirates" of sort.

Could even make a map of the day?

 

weird idea, but fun i guess

 

[Kevin Jacobs]

Just now, SteveD said:

I think too much revolves around drug labs. We're basically feeding the problem by making that the primary goal of any criminal, it will always lead to gunfights. I think we should triple/quadruple the amount of loot received from other script things such as regular civilian jobs and robberies (stores, banks, atms, etc)

If those pay more, they will choose labs less. And it's a very easy development change. Will it harm the economy? No, don't believe so, it's just a shift of coin from 1 script part to another (labs to other script elements)

The issue with that is most people who roll up are new or love to be able to sit and camp the labs for hours and make simple money from it I don't believe it is correct that spending 4-6hrs a day cooking drugs in a lab and not letting anyone else go there is not realistic but also it won't stop shoot outs it will just cause the same people to stay while everyone else goes to the other jobs. We have to remember most gangs have a drug dealer they need to sell to without the labs we can't sell.

[dominator]

20 minutes ago, Lewis said:

to reduce players fighting players and the overall amount of shoot outs, encourage more player interaction

Ban the use of C peeks or any other speed boosting bugs. With the desync as bad as it is, you don't even see who is shooting you.

[Normal]

3 minutes ago, Teenyinnit said:

*Add more marijuana zones, or active HIDDEN labs. (like desert lab)

i think you should be able to plant anywhere, big +1 from me for your suggestion

[Rosalia Hall]

Make doing crime worth doing other than rolling labs and shooting other gangs. Store robberies, banks, etc are just simply not worth risking the 3 hours in jail. I hardly see a gang member outside of a lab if it isn't parking at this rate. 

Edited May 27, 2025 by Rosalia Hall

[SneakySniper]

I think just releasing more of these updates that have been introduced to trucking and bus routes already. I have seen so many players sticking to freelance jobs and its refreshing to have interactions like that. Potential jobs like fishing, farming etc could increase player to player interaction if they had the same. I'm sure its something being worked on in the future but i wanted to note it down.

Also on the crim side. Maybe bringing back the use of drug tables, not in property's, just rvs. Making it not so overpowered but also taking more people out of labs and having to put some effort into cooking, also would help people who aren't in gangs. Trying to cook solo is basically impossible these days. 

Not really QOL but maybe update the credit store, introduce some different vehicles, features etc. 

Someone mentioned above making it non rp to rob people at house robberies. I agree with this, anytime the house robbery period is around u get people just going door to door in Vinewood hills with a .50 checking all the doors. kind of just takes the fun out of it and doesnt seem all too realistic. I'm not saying make it non rp to be robbed, just non rp going house to house. You should have to follow someone to a house or have some prior reason to go. 

Make joining the server harder than it is. The amount of new players who go straight to labs to fight and that's it ruins the experience. Maybe add a waiting time or make the questions harder, so we can thin out people who actually want to come rp instead of just finding a new server to pvp on.

Maybe for dealerships we can have it so you need a member of staff to be around to purchase/look at vehicles. Places like Motorsport could become something like a faction, not entirely but. Instead of walking in click buy walk out. Maybe someone employed by the dealership can come and finalize it, answer any questions. This can also be seen as a negative as u cant just grab a car whenever but at the same time might heighten the amount of player-player interaction that happens. ADD A TEST DRIVE SCRIPT.

An illegal race script. Like u get these tablets that can alert u of when a race is being set up, compete for prizes, all that good stuff. Can also give cops more to do. Unsure on rages capabilities but would be cool.

More planting areas for marijuana, maybe even a feature where u can buy plant pots and plant the seeds, fill with water, and wait a while etc. Will help solos.

Add more chop locations. Some like labs that move around occasionally so people don't just find them and camp them all the time.

More tattoos, better customization for PED models when customizing characters or getting plastic surgery, half of them look like aliens.

I also dont think gun decay should be a thing as ive seen alot of people suggest. The people fighting in labs are the ones with .50s and thats it, nothing will change. The ones with big stashes are already big names in the crim world and have the relations, hence having a big stash. Theres a risk to having a big stash. Just doesnt make any sense for them to decay. People will then just start not caring about their guns and pvp as much as they can knowing in some time it wont matter as they will decay anyways

 

 

Edited May 27, 2025 by SneakySniper276