Freddy V Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 PD and or SD go crazy in these SUVs up and down mountains like it isn't an SUV. I don't think an SUV should be allowed to go up a mountain the same way a bike or an actual off-road vehicle can it's insanely unrealistic to say the least Maybe give the police other off-road vehicles to choose from would be my suggestion. I just hate when you've clearly got the advantage these cops just be following you up a 90 degree angle in a freaking SUV haha. It's too much and i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontSniffSugar Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 The Scout is based on a Ford Explorer. A google search states that the Ford Explorer is great for going off-road, as it has 4 wheel drive and a powerful engine. The LEO factions have other vehicles they can utilize for off-roaring, such as a Kamacho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 You have access to the same vehicle so you can do the same things in it with the exception of ramming I guess since they have ram bars and normal ones don’t so I’m unsure what the issue is? Or is the point that one of their main daily driver vehicles shouldn’t be allowed to do that and they should have a specialised one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, DontSniffSugar said: The Scout is based on a Ford Explorer. A google search states that the Ford Explorer is great for going off-road, as it has 4 wheel drive and a powerful engine. The LEO factions have other vehicles they can utilize for off-roaring, such as a Kamacho. sure but alot of SUVs are considered "off-road" vehicles if you look at wiki lol, just not off-road enough to climb up a mountain you know? 4 hours ago, Ash said: You have access to the same vehicle so you can do the same things in it with the exception of ramming I guess since they have ram bars and normal ones don’t so I’m unsure what the issue is? Or is the point that one of their main daily driver vehicles shouldn’t be allowed to do that and they should have a specialised one? yes, the point is they should have special off-road vehicles for that kinda terrain, just like the Kamacho. i doubt anyone has ever taken a ford exlporer up a mountain you know haha Edited November 18, 2023 by Freddy V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonmit1 Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 Quote i doubt anyone has ever taken a ford exlporer up a mountain you know haha KIA Sorento Attempts Hell's Gate in Moab Ford Escape Explorer Off-Road Hell's Revenge, Moab Utah Stock Porsche takes on famous Hell's Gate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 even the first video just proves my point lol... "we're gonna do it in a vehicle you would never expect" and do you see how slow they're going not to literally die lol. 29 minutes ago, Demonmit1 said: KIA Sorento Attempts Hell's Gate in Moab Ford Escape Explorer Off-Road Hell's Revenge, Moab Utah Stock Porsche takes on famous Hell's Gate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett_J Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Freddy V said: PD and or SD go crazy in these SUVs up and down mountains like it isn't an SUV. I don't think an SUV should be allowed to go up a mountain the same way a bike or an actual off-road vehicle can it's insanely unrealistic to say the least Maybe give the police other off-road vehicles to choose from would be my suggestion. I just hate when you've clearly got the advantage these cops just be following you up a 90 degree angle in a freaking SUV haha. It's too much and i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks so. You ask for realism but you mention being changed up 90 degree angles. Realistically no car or bike will be able to go up 90 degree angles. The scout is available to civilians and they can offroad just as much in it. It's a GTA server, we have off-road and non off-road vehicles. As long as it's in the off-road category, you can go off-road any way you would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCactus Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Freddy V said: even the first video just proves my point lol... "we're gonna do it in a vehicle you would never expect" and do you see how slow they're going not to literally die lol. Next There really is no point to prove. They are capable vehicles. If you don't allow Scouts to go off-road, law enforcement factions will have to adapt and use other vehicles to make it up such as the Kamacho and Caracara, which are already available to most faction members. Big pass on seeing Kamachos everywhere so let's close an eye on the scouts. Edited November 18, 2023 by TheCactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonmit1 Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 if you want to make an argument about realism, there isnt really a single vehicle built like a proper hillclimb race vehicle that can properly climb steep terrain at high speeds like so many people do in the server with vehicles marked as offroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jett_J said: You ask for realism but you mention being changed up 90 degree angles. Realistically no car or bike will be able to go up 90 degree angles. The scout is available to civilians and they can offroad just as much in it. It's a GTA server, we have off-road and non off-road vehicles. As long as it's in the off-road category, you can go off-road any way you would like. obviously not bruv... but (exaggeration promotes understanding) if you're familiar with that expression lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheCactus said: There really is no point to prove. They are capable vehicles. If you don't allow Scouts to go off-road, law enforcement factions will have to adapt and use other vehicles to make it up such as the Kamacho and Caracara, which are already available to most faction members. Big pass on seeing Kamachos everywhere so let's close an eye on the scouts. id rather want to see some ACTUAL off-road vehicles chase me rather than 2 or 3 SUVs just piling up a mountain like it's a piece of cake lol specially when i'm in a proper off-road vehicle myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrx Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 I've seen a lot of threads but this one is the most silly and unnecessary. -1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Freddy V said: yes, the point is they should have special off-road vehicles for that kinda terrain, just like the Kamacho. i doubt anyone has ever taken a ford exlporer up a mountain you know haha Why is this thread titled "The Scout Police SUV" when it's accessible by every single player on the server? I feel like this is targeted at LEO's when criminals buy the scout for the exact same reason. The vehicle is designed for off-road use. It complies with server rules for its use in that manner. Sure, PD has the Kamacho, but that isn't accessible to all IC. Do you expect PD to have a vehicle specifically to chase your off-road capable scout? The PD scout is top-heavy anyway due to the light bar on top, so actually performs worse than the one accessible by anyone else on the server. Massive -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clank Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Freddy V said: id rather want to see some ACTUAL off-road vehicles chase me rather than 2 or 3 SUVs just piling up a mountain like it's a piece of cake lol specially when i'm in a proper off-road vehicle myself What do you consider a proper off-road vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Clank said: What do you consider a proper off-road vehicle? A Druguar, Kamacho or a Brawler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy V Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Silent said: Why is this thread titled "The Scout Police SUV" when it's accessible by every single player on the server? I feel like this is targeted at LEO's when criminals buy the scout for the exact same reason. The vehicle is designed for off-road use. It complies with server rules for its use in that manner. Sure, PD has the Kamacho, but that isn't accessible to all IC. Do you expect PD to have a vehicle specifically to chase your off-road capable scout? The PD scout is top-heavy anyway due to the light bar on top, so actually performs worse than the one accessible by anyone else on the server. Massive -1 i don't think gangs should be able to drive up mountains in it either lol. The title is the way it is cause it's from personal experience. You can feel whatever you want in regards to the naming of the thread, it's the fact that a SUV shouldn't be able to climb a mountain the same way an actual car built for off-road / hill climbing can Edited November 18, 2023 by Freddy V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietthecutie Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Freddy V said: sure but alot of SUVs are considered "off-road" vehicles if you look at wiki lol, just not off-road enough to climb up a mountain you know? yes, the point is they should have special off-road vehicles for that kinda terrain, just like the Kamacho. i doubt anyone has ever taken a ford exlporer up a mountain you know haha This is where we need to concede that this is infact, a videogame. whilst we try to base our RP to be as IRL as possible, fact is that criminals run around in BFs and Kamachos almost exclusively so that when they evade, they can go offroad. The Scout is the most common PD/SD cruiser and a large part of the reasoning behind it is to keep up with such vehicles and be able to follow them offroad. its also one of the most "inoffensive" looking off road vehicles. it would look very wrong if LEOs constantly drove round in kamachos which are a civilian model of a millspec vehicle. we would look like an authoritarian dictatorship (imagine...) Also, handy list of all accepted off road vehicles for those interested: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alannn Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 -1 unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clank Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Freddy V said: A Druguar, Kamacho or a Brawler None of those you mentioned (their irl equivalent) are made for vertical hill/mountain climb. Even on rocky terrain they'd have to travel incredibly slow. I'd argue just as slow as a ford explorer would. I think a lot of people on the server really confuse what "off-roading" means and how it is different from hill climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted November 19, 2023 Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 I'll stick the Off-Road vehicle flag on it if you want, then it's an off-road car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) I get the feeling this post was made as a knee jerk reaction to one rhetorical situation where you were not happy with the outcome. SUV = Sport Utility Vehicle. They are made for off-roading and rougher conditions. I sometimes understand the complaints about the tools PD has available...but the Scout of all thing? Not sure about that one chief. Edited November 20, 2023 by Requiem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
