Kon Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 (edited) Currently you can driveby in 3rd person, with a 360 view with 0 recoil with automatic guns. This is extremely unfun to deal with no matter if you're the one doing it, or the one on the receiving end, essentially because there it is too easy. I'm suprised it's taken this long to fully catch on by the majority of the server, but now it's at a point where every crim has a driveby at all times, and most fights are extremely boring. Everyone should need to be in 1st person to driveby, also add some recoil while you're at it, make it rewarding at least. We need to change alot of shit up tbh but let's start here. Edited January 5 by Kon 1 1 2 1 4 Quote
Mrpyth0n33 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kon said: Currently you can driveby in 3rd person, with a 360 view with 0 recoil with automatic guns Gotta teach me cause i can only shoot from a car in 1st person at least as a driver, and im ass in it Edited January 5 by Mrpyth0n33 Quote
Saint_ Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 Recoil script in vehicles is the solution, make autos have significantly more recoil then pistols when drive bying. The only practical use should be point blank drive-by, if your far away you should be firing single shots etc. Adding the recoil will prevent getting beamed out the car by a AP pistol from 50 feet away. 2 Quote
Kon Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, Mrpyth0n33 said: Gotta teach me cause i can only shoot from a car in 1st person at least as a driver, and im ass in it the problem is the passengers and the fact there is no recoil with autos Quote
alexalex303 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 This is a roleplay server, if you want perfect pvp balance you should play Valorant. If you switched your focus from winning fights to having fun in fights you might not have such thoughts. 2 1 1 Quote
Kon Posted January 5 Author Report Posted January 5 28 minutes ago, alexalex303 said: This is a roleplay server, if you want perfect pvp balance you should play Valorant. If you switched your focus from winning fights to having fun in fights you might not have such thoughts huh? i made the suggestion for that exact reason, the fights aren't fun, that's the issue. Quote
David Coast Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 52 minutes ago, alexalex303 said: This is a roleplay server, if you want perfect pvp balance you should play Valorant. If you switched your focus from winning fights to having fun in fights you might not have such thoughts. Diabolical view. It's a roleplay server and people fight on it, since its semi optimized for that; this means that we should make those fights fair. Everyone enjoys fighting, even people who roleplay. He's clearly made a suggestion that is about making fights better. I personally think you should only be able to drive by in first person even as a passenger. Get people out of pay to win meta asf cars 24/7. 1 Quote
Felarx Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 1 hour ago, alexalex303 said: This is a roleplay server, if you want perfect pvp balance you should play Valorant. If you switched your focus from winning fights to having fun in fights you might not have such thoughts. Exactly, it's a roleplay server. Are you gonna be able to shoot out your police car IRL with a 360 view of everyone and hold the gun that steady you hit every shot? Drivebying in third person as a passenger WITH recoil would make it so fun to learn in fights, it would also stop it being abused not just by criminals but by LEOs too with their tac smgs which are also abused due to the no recoil. I'd love to see a cop beam me out my car with added recoil and limited views from the passenger seat. W suggestion Kon. Quote
alexalex303 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Felarx said: Exactly, it's a roleplay server. Are you gonna be able to shoot out your police car IRL with a 360 view of everyone and hold the gun that steady you hit every shot? Drivebying in third person as a passenger WITH recoil would make it so fun to learn in fights, it would also stop it being abused not just by criminals but by LEOs too with their tac smgs which are also abused due to the no recoil. I'd love to see a cop beam me out my car with added recoil and limited views from the passenger seat. W suggestion Kon. "would make it so fun to learn in fights," learning recoil patterns has no place on a roleplay server, that is quite literally a csgo/valorant mechanic 3 Quote
Felarx Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 (edited) 1 minute ago, alexalex303 said: "would make it so fun to learn in fights," learning recoil patterns has no place on a roleplay server, that is quite literally a csgo/valorant mechanic Cant tell if this whole convo is rage bait Edited January 5 by Felarx 1 Quote
Earl Mud Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 +1 its a new meta used by cop and crim alike and is abused by both. Quote
SaltyPoiosn Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 Ive been back on the server for a few days and it was a huge shock to find that drive by-ing had become such a prominent force within the strategy for fighting. I one hindered percent agree with this post and i believe it needs tweaking. Its not fun nor is it realistic for someone to be able to shoot in a complete 360 degree view in 3rd person. Also would like to mention it seems like the rule of drive-bying has been enforced with much more leniency. There is no reason why i should be fighting someone on foot whilst a 4 stack come behind me and spray me down, or even worse they begin circling the shootout with minimal repercussions. Quote
SaltyPoiosn Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 (edited) 19 minutes ago, alexalex303 said: "would make it so fun to learn in fights," learning recoil patterns has no place on a roleplay server, that is quite literally a csgo/valorant mechanic No matter what game you play, if it involves shooting then it should most definitely be a topic of conversation. Your outlook on the definition of a roleplay server within the GTA universe is nothing short of naive. This is Grand Theft Auto Five, the game itself is built on cops against criminal's and crims vs crims. It would be stupid to not have this kind of gameplay within a roleplay server. If you want to roleplay and not engage in shooting, then maybe a game of dungeons and dragons would suffice. Of course fighting and PvPing should not be your main priority, however that does not mean it should be totally neglected. Instead of always thinking about it from a subjective point of view, try and be logistical and unbiased with your words. I hope this doesn’t come across as passive aggressive i just feel as though you say things a lot on the forums to spark a reaction and don’t even truly believe the words you are portraying. Edited January 5 by SaltyPoiosn 1 Quote
Eliza Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 1 hour ago, alexalex303 said: This is a roleplay server, if you want perfect pvp balance you should play Valorant. If you switched your focus from winning fights to having fun in fights you might not have such thoughts. PvP is healthy for roleplay as long as it’s not the main focus. Conflict RP can progress gang beef. This would be beneficial for everybody for RP purposes. PD would get wiped less because taking tires would require actual skill, and criminals wouldn’t get beamed by a zero recoil AP pistol from 200 meters away. Also it would be beneficial because you couldn’t just spray someone down in a helicopter with a rifle that has zero recoil. 2 Quote
Mortem Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 +1 even though I don't think recoil will change the drive by mechanic/usage drastically. Quote
RJThompson Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 +1000000 if u cant change the recoil or make it so its first person, remove automatic weapons from being able to be shot from vehicles. pistols are fine 2 Quote
Smoke1 Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 lots of great points and after reading them all i also agree +1 Quote
Cup Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 Passengers should also be required to be in first person to shoot. Zero recoil is something im not sure how that could be handled but forced first person is a good start. 2 Quote
Rem Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 10 hours ago, RJThompson said: +1000000 if u cant change the recoil or make it so its first person, remove automatic weapons from being able to be shot from vehicles. pistols are fine first person shooting in vehicles is the only way, recoil or removing automatic weapon fire from vehicles completely doesn’t seem ideal at all. Quote
Hubie Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 Force first person all around and add a drive by recoil script 1 Quote
Soupiestfork Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 +1 I'd rather forced first person for drivebys (regardless if driver or passenger) than the removal of automatics altogether. Quote
