Demonmit1 Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 The only argument I've seen about private labs being removed is that it encouraged people to be involved in solo activities inside an interior to make money by themselves. What happened when private labs were removed? everyone now does house robberies, a solo activity inside an interior to make money by yourself... So... what was the point? the script exists, it was balanced in the cost, upkeep slower output, and high risk of getting caught by law enforcement if you screwed up. can we get that back? 1 1 2 Quote
Eliza Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 You arent sitting in a house robbery for 6 hours straight 2 Quote
itsJonathan Posted October 27, 2025 Report Posted October 27, 2025 i can confirm that the city lost some well respected people when they removed it. i had about 10 people from my group alone leave when this was taken away. Quote
JohnnnnyP Posted October 29, 2025 Report Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) As much as it “took” away Rp from people just hanging out and cooking alone, I feel it also brought quite a bit of rp. Yea you might be sitting for a while in your lab cooking, but you have to fear no one knows about it, people following you from humane back to your lab, having enough plants/water, and of course making sure it don’t blow up. I’m pretty sure in my experience the only time I had a “significant” loss cooking is when the lab exploded, or it got raided, because when dealing with public labs, you either have enough man/gunpowder to protect your stuff, or you only bring a bit that your willing to lose. Edited October 29, 2025 by JohnnnnyP Quote
Earl Mud Posted October 29, 2025 Report Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) Maybe a balance for this is only weed tables. Keep planting as is in the limited places. Make em 150k each. No water needed since rolling blunts wouldn't explode. They still have chances of getting robbed since per drug blunts require double the plants so double the time either planting or picking. It also pays the least amount compared to other drugs and takes double the gathering time. Edited October 29, 2025 by Earl Mud Quote
alexalex303 Posted October 29, 2025 Report Posted October 29, 2025 The last thing we need right now is to segregate people in interiors. -1 1 2 Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 The argument of “people staying inside to much” never made sense to me. in 2020 you could cook in appartments with 0vents, put 60 tables down people made 500k in a few hours….. yet we had +200 people staying at the pier EVERYDAY the private labs argument is very biased Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) On 10/29/2025 at 8:43 PM, alexalex303 said: The last thing we need right now is to segregate people in interiors. -1 Funny how in 2020 we had private labs in appartments with 60tables 0 vents making 500k in few hours. Yet we had +200 people standing at the pier EVERYDAY. At almost any given time. but SOMEHOW the narative is still. People spend to much time inside… so biased Edited October 31, 2025 by Ritchie Stones Quote
Asbo Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said: in 2020 you could cook in appartments with 0vents, put 60 tables down people made 500k in a few hours….. yet we had +200 people staying at the pier EVERYDAY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic 2 1 1 Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, Asbo said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic Had an impact on the population of the server, not when people stay inside an interior or not, Quote
Smoke1 Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 i would take 50+ more people on server for the server population even if they sat inside lol 1 Quote
Mrpyth0n33 Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 17 minutes ago, Smoke1 said: i would take 50+ more people on server for the server population even if they sat inside lol I agree rather have higher pop, even if they spent half the time inside an interior at the moment its such low pop you see even less people then you would if they stayed in an interior, just the fact there you would know there are people logged in even if you didnt see them ALL the time Quote
alexalex303 Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Smoke1 said: i would take 50+ more people on server for the server population even if they sat inside lol The server with 100 people right now is more active than when it had 300 with interior cooking. It doesn't matter what the number says, what matters is how many people aren't afk and actually doing stuff. Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted October 31, 2025 Report Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, alexalex303 said: The server with 100 people right now is more active than when it had 300 with interior cooking. It doesn't matter what the number says, what matters is how many people aren't afk and actually doing stuff. so you are saying that times like the pier was never a thing ? where +200 people sat everyday chilling, a new gang would be formed every week EVERY WEEK, there was chases almost at any time the day, tell me exactly where you see more activity ? burgershot is dead, benny's is dead, even labs are dead now, but somehow you are saying, the server now with 100 people has more activity than when it had 450, and somehow you convince yourself that its better now, how do you even compare +200 people standing in one place EVERYDAY with 100 people spread in the entire server. are you on drugs ? not to insult you but nothing you say makes even sense Quote
Smoke1 Posted November 1, 2025 Report Posted November 1, 2025 I totally understand what you mean Alex I'm trying to think from a server perspective vs a player one, This is just my personal opinion and doesn't represent anything to do with staff, I personally feel people look for highly populated servers to join That's what I personally did when I joined Eclipse years ago I googled best RP servers Eclipse was on the list and it was highly populated. To attract new players now if you see 50 to 100 people on a server versus 200-300 you are going to join that200- 300 server and have no idea people are AFK inside cooking because you want to join the higher populated server. In my opinion people that are going to be joining the server that are new to RP aren't actively seeking out Eclipse because of our quality of RP they are actively seeking a populated rp server on rage mp Quote
AnnoyingOne Posted November 1, 2025 Report Posted November 1, 2025 Okay, but private labs won't bring people back. This is just a delusion of a man who wants to have private labs back 1 Quote
Quietthecutie Posted November 1, 2025 Report Posted November 1, 2025 (edited) so the reasons private labs are well known, how could we address them so that we could bring private labs back. -Private labs would have to be more interactive -you would have to get out on the map semi regularly -you cannot just farm stupid amounts of cash/drugs 1. I think a good first step would be to keep it purely RV focused once more, with a hard limit on how many tables you can have. no more creative stacking or cheeky clipping. A set limit. This gets us out on the map a bit and ticks the box of not being able to infinitely scale operations to stupid proportions. 2. The passer by. This would be a suggestion to address interactivity and people just sitting in their RV for 5 hours on netflix whilst still giving some wiggle room for chill cozy cooking vibes. once you start to cook, every 15 mins or so, a script would roll an RNG check. if you pass the check, nothing happens. if you fail the check, you would get a notification along the lines of "you hear voices outside, it sounds like someone has found you and is calling the cops (raw, i know, but you get the idea.) From there a timer would start, giving the RV about a 10 minute head start. this seems long but is to account for them having to finish their current round of drugs. After that local authorities get a script call along the lines of "you have received an anonymous tip of a potential drug lab, call 123." so you have that ammount of time to pack up and clear the area before cops get there. forcing you to relocate to another area and keep moving. No more jamming your RV into a cliff in the middle of nowhere and staying there forever. This means that technically, if youre lucky, you could stay in one spot for maybe an hour cooking, but much like robbing atms, if you fail the RNG roll, cops can and will get involved in your little roleplay session and you will need to scoot. That would be my first pass on how to bring private labs back, addressing the primary reasons they were removed, which were valid. I'd love to hear some feedback and positive discussion on how else we could make private labs great but not OP again. Edited November 1, 2025 by Quietthecutie 2 Quote
XxTheIrishGuyxX Posted November 1, 2025 Report Posted November 1, 2025 I agree with the opinion that public labs should be removed and private labs be added back. Private labs were removed for a good reason, and I have a simple suggestion on to solve the previous problem of private labs, in which people were locking themselves in their house for hours and hours on end. I have a simple suggestion to bring back private labs. Drug tables can be placed anywhere on the map, outside or inside an interior. If you place a drug table in an interior (somewhere you need the UI to enter) you are unable to lock the door to that interior). On 10/31/2025 at 11:33 AM, Asbo said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic Quote
YasinByn Posted November 1, 2025 Report Posted November 1, 2025 +1 good suggestion, we need this shit back. Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted November 2, 2025 Report Posted November 2, 2025 10 hours ago, AnnoyingOne said: Okay, but private labs won't bring people back. This is just a delusion of a man who wants to have private labs back The server started losing crims consistently when they started messing with the private labs, and tables, you can't argue 110 people on a Saturday eve Quote
Ritchie Stones Posted November 2, 2025 Report Posted November 2, 2025 8 hours ago, Quietthecutie said: so the reasons private labs are well known, how could we address them so that we could bring private labs back. -Private labs would have to be more interactive -you would have to get out on the map semi regularly -you cannot just farm stupid amounts of cash/drugs 1. I think a good first step would be to keep it purely RV focused once more, with a hard limit on how many tables you can have. no more creative stacking or cheeky clipping. A set limit. This gets us out on the map a bit and ticks the box of not being able to infinitely scale operations to stupid proportions. 2. The passer by. This would be a suggestion to address interactivity and people just sitting in their RV for 5 hours on netflix whilst still giving some wiggle room for chill cozy cooking vibes. once you start to cook, every 15 mins or so, a script would roll an RNG check. if you pass the check, nothing happens. if you fail the check, you would get a notification along the lines of "you hear voices outside, it sounds like someone has found you and is calling the cops (raw, i know, but you get the idea.) From there a timer would start, giving the RV about a 10 minute head start. this seems long but is to account for them having to finish their current round of drugs. After that local authorities get a script call along the lines of "you have received an anonymous tip of a potential drug lab, call 123." so you have that ammount of time to pack up and clear the area before cops get there. forcing you to relocate to another area and keep moving. No more jamming your RV into a cliff in the middle of nowhere and staying there forever. This means that technically, if youre lucky, you could stay in one spot for maybe an hour cooking, but much like robbing atms, if you fail the RNG roll, cops can and will get involved in your little roleplay session and you will need to scoot. That would be my first pass on how to bring private labs back, addressing the primary reasons they were removed, which were valid. I'd love to hear some feedback and positive discussion on how else we could make private labs great but not OP again. NO there should be no limit on how many tables you can coock and place, but there was to be more pre prepperation, and also the drugs should be sold more in smaller amounts over more npc's, not jst 250 cocain,on a turf and drive of after 2 seconds sale Quote