U Menu Feedback

[Harley]

While I appreciate the U menu being created allows for people not familiar with / commands to utilise these features, I've heard plenty of feedback against it.

I'd like to make this thread so the community can voice their opinions on the menu.

Personally, I find the menu more cumbersome than useful - I may be biased towards being used to using / commands, but I literally never use the U menu, unless I click U by mistake.

I understand newer players may prefer to use the U menu because / commands are difficult to remember, so I understand why the U menu exists and I think it's a great addition for those newer players.

All I suggest is to give players the ability to choose how they interact with the game. If you prefer to use / commands then they are there available to use, if you prefer to use the U menu then great it's also there for you - Removing / commands just seems like we're making the game less accessible and forcing players to use a feature that they may not prefer. Unless there's a real reason behind it, but I really can't think of any reason why / commands would have to be removed.

My other suggestion is just give us the ability to re-map the U menu (or just remove the keybind entirely) - Although I don't know how possible this is development-wise.

Anyway community - Thoughts?

[Hubie]

+1 The U menu is a good addition to the server like harley said, but removing commands is a big change to the people that have been on the server longer than the U menu was added. 

[Cup]

I agree pretty much. I love the U menu as I think it helps newer community members immensely but for myself it’s muscle memory at this point some of the commands and I would like the option to still use them 

[Quietthecutie]

Yeah i can see why new members might find it helpful but for me its just tedius.

[DoubleA]

+1 - keep both, no harm, no foul 

[Sigma]

+1 there was never any issues with commands, im not sure whats kinda sparked this random, un needed change. I understand its helpful for new players but for people who are just used to typing commands, let that be an option

[Celestial]

+1 for having both being available.

I am just going to give feedback about all of it and everything that looks similar because I as well think there's just a lot going on in the U menu. The idea of minimizing the use of commands is being pitched in but at the same time is stretched far too much that it's difficult to deal with the way it currently is.

It's evident that this is still a work in progress, but I hope in the future it can be better

• The keybind needs to be changed to a function key that is not in use. I think F6 might not be? It needs to be closed using the same key and not having to ESC out of it or be stuck.
• Actions in the menu are not grouped well enough and just random.
• A lot of actions have the box images (or similar ones) which makes it more confusing.
• Searching needs to be available for it. (or pretty much any other menu as well regardless of type)
• There is 'Loading File' thing at the top left that appears for like 0.1ms and sometimes it gives a 404 error that breaks my entire UI and requires a restart. But this is a disadvantage that others might or might not face when using it.
   

The theme and how it looks like could also look prettier than what it is now. It's too crowded and many certain options can either be distributed among others or have certain things donee with the style of how building works.

I am not sure why we need to CTRL+X but just to F2 > Point & Right Click directly is quicker and easier.

If how it looks becomes nicer and if they don't already exist, faction-specific actions should be included according to duty state. Taking someone hostage can be there. CPR, if there is a license available on the player. Looting. Duo Anims. Paying a player if on-foot. Transferring a car. But obviously all situation based if possible.
 

For new players, or just in general, the building script's GTA styled display for keybinds and having them actually work according to the player's state and current action with logic is way easier and informative.

• A player is downed and needs to be carried.
• Other player right clicks downed player and carries them.
• Like the building script, the option to drop the body using a keybind 'P' (or anything else) will show somewhere without hiding anything else. There would be no need to have it in U menu.
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• An anim is playing.
• Keybind to stop it will show somewhere without having it show in the chat and other than CTRL+0.
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• Locking the car, engine controls, hotwiring or whatever else should show for a few seconds after entering a car (with the ability to disable it) because I have noticed that new players have a hard time trying to figure it out.

These would help any player know what they need to do during gameplay and should be toggleable. There should be a lot less options distributed with selection, better grouping and logic. I am sure everyone gets it though.

 

This might be off-topic, but it has the same style so might or might not be. About the furniture interaction one, it's too far to the top right, and I am aware that it can be navigated through with the keyboard but you can make a mistake using the keyboard more (and I have) if not using the mouse. I preferred the older one since it was closer to the item and smaller. It was only missing a confirmation if you were to accidentally remove an item.

[skeletee]

idm the u menu, the only thing id prefer is when dropping/storing/picking up bodies, there was a scroll option when moving the cursor over the body, maybe under the “search” option. the mixture between ctrl x/u menu is a bit difficult to get used to at the mo.

[Pumpkin]

+1 would rather it be a choice as for most long standing players its so much faster to just type the commands rather then scroll and find the right command

[Joozie]

+1 I literally came onto here to suggest this exact thing, the U menu is a great addition but I find it so much easier to just use the / commands so I completely agree with keeping the U menu but also keeping the / commands so people can use whichever they prefer rather than completely removing an option

[Tacoface173]

I'd like to see both options available, as I see no reason to remove the commands entirely. Additionally, the 'U' menu is not 60% keyboard-friendly, as it takes even more time for members with these types of keyboards to navigate and make the menu useful due to the reliance on arrow keys. I understand that the mouse can be used to select options in the menu, but isn't the whole point of the menu to reduce the time spent typing or in the menus case, navigating?

While it may be practical for newer members of the server, I don't see any justification for removing the commands altogether. I would much prefer having both options available, as it ultimately comes down to personal preference.

[Smoke1]

On 8/26/2024 at 7:35 AM, Cup said:

I agree pretty much. I love the U menu as I think it helps newer community members immensely but for myself it’s muscle memory at this point some of the commands and I would like the option to still use them 

+1 i also agree with this

[inorigj]

only complaint I got. is that I can't find the old facepalm anim. and PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. GIVE ME BACK /SALARY

I drive around when I check my stats and salary hours. now I need to ether stop the car or risk crashing it just to check some text in the chat.

I've fine with having the U menu there. but keep the commands as well. commands never harmed anymore.

 

Its been like that for 7 years. Please don't change it now

[Gataki]

+1

[Ms.Somebody]

I didn’t mind the u menu at first, it’s something to get used to for sure, but it just feels like a lot of unnecessary things are being put under the u menu as of late. Then they gave the phone a hot key today, unrelated but it got me thinking, specially with them removing the /carurl command and making it so you have to open your inventory and right click the car speaker.

 

Why not give specific things a hot key? I’m not saying everything needs to have a hot key, just the more important things is all, what those are is probably up to the devs to decide, but my point stands.

 

Lock picking and hot wiring could be put on the same hot key depending on where you are around or in a vehicle.

Car speakers, self explanatory, it’s going to be cumbersome having to pull over and waste 30 seconds changing songs because I have to tab out, tab back in, hit I, right click, ctrl v, enter.

Other commands I can’t think of right now because it’s 8am in the morning and I haven’t slept, insert your own ideas or opinions here.

 

That’s just my opinion of it. I’m just saying, not everything has to be under the u menu, and it’s going to be confusing and frustrating eventually having to click through 10 or 15 menus to find something if it’s going that route.

[Blazendary]

+1, keep both, I hate being forced to use a menu which commands were a lot faster to use 

[Jordan]

There are just so many options that things that need to be done really quickly i.E: Setting new radio binds, turning your phone off, showing your license.  They are all so hard to find in these options we NEED atleast to have commands back, its too confusing. +1

[Starlet_bruh]

+1, gameplay is extremely clunky without commands to change radio/phone/stats, it takes unrealistically long so having the commands back for people who know would be much better.

[Martin James]

massive +1 from me, not a fan personally of the new menu. Ideally having both would be perfect

[Nope]

+1 just keep commands as an option, big upvote 

[Miky]

+1 I just feel like there has been a bit too many commands transferred to the U menu, and it's kind of getting out of hand, I'm personally not a huge fan of this change and when talking about it to other people within the community I get the same feedback as mine.

I really hope there is going to be an option to use commands as you used to be able to.

[Arnis]

+1 People have summed it up for most of us veterans if I can say so the commands where second nature and was a helpful thing not a problem as the New U menu I appreciate the thought process of it do 

[Jooce]

Huge +1 while I agree the U menu can be helpful for newer players I feel like there needs to be the option for both, the U menu to me feels clunky and it slows down a lot of RP, ie taking someone to the hospital, showing your license, hot wiring, etc.

[Diddern]

I like the implementation of the U menu, however I do believe those who wish to utilize commands should also be able to use that as an alternative.

 

Also I would like to have it so the mouse cursor is not toggled by itself and rather toggled when you press F2 so you still can use other key inputs while utilizing the arrows.

[Aezeryst]

+1 well done on making the U menu guys but from a user experiece POV, it overcomplicates things that used to be simpler when they were just commands, removing the commands was completely unneeded. add the commands back so im not forced to use the U menu please