Make Police Impound Automated

[vajo]

As we all know, current state of releasing impounded vehicles takes ages. everyone waits so many time and its not even close to be priority for the cops to even release our vehicles. it wastes so many time for us, minimum you need to be standing at impound 20 minutes+ so any cop can show up and finally release your vehicle, which delays stuff so much and makes it really boring for everyone. 

I suggest we implement new system, where players (who have license and whose license is not revoked) to be able to release their impound exactly same as it works on mors insurance therefore it will be much easier for people to get their impounded vehicles as soon as possible,otherwise make it must do things for pd, so we don't have to wait 20minutes+ for simply car release from impound.

[Nettz]

I've seen this suggestion a few times in the past, but haven't seen them go anywhere, but I absolutely love this idea.

People in the past have said it takes away roleplay that cops can do, but in the current state of the server they don't even show up to the impound.

Every time I've gone to the impound recently I have to wait upwards of an hour, or even call the cops to have them come to the impound.

An automated system would be perfect, letting you release a vehicle if your license is not suspended, and have no fines to pay.

Edited March 31, 2024 by Nettz

[Cup]

I personally have no issue with this as depending on the time of day you play having a cop available to come to impound can sometimes be very very hit or miss. I would say a good compromise would be if there was a way that hitting the pager at impound started some sort of timer for you and if noone responded within a certain amount of time the auto impound would work.

And if there are no PD/SD on duty or maybe lets say less then 3 or 4 LEO on duty it should maybe just work.

 

Also I don't think outstanding fines should matter just having a non suspended license.

[tigerpet15]

On 3/31/2024 at 5:23 PM, Cup said:

I personally have no issue with this as depending on the time of day you play having a cop available to come to impound can sometimes be very very hit or miss. I would say a good compromise would be if there was a way that hitting the pager at impound started some sort of timer for you and if noone responded within a certain amount of time the auto impound would work.

And if there are no PD/SD on duty or maybe lets say less then 3 or 4 LEO on duty it should maybe just work.

 

Also I don't think outstanding fines should matter just having a non suspended license.

Big +1. I actually thought of that idea of having automated impounf after timer is up

 

[KingCo]

This is an absolute neccessity, the police do not come. and the roleplay is awful even if they do come. it is just a rushed scenario and is a pain in the ass

 

unbelievable +1

Edited April 21, 2024 by KingCo

[Quietthecutie]

This is an idea suggested once every few months (in the past by me) and its clear that the Devs have no intention to change the current format. particularly as they have just revamped city impound.

I will say that my experiences recently have improved. usually i can get my car out in about 10-15 minutes instead of 25-45. credit where it is due clearly LEOs are trying to make it work despite the fact that it is not an activity they enjoy and the RP quality/variety is always dogshit.

To be clear, I agree that it should be automated, but it wont happen.

 

Edited April 22, 2024 by Quietthecutie

[SquirtleSquad]

12 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

[...] credit where it is due clearly LEOs are trying to make it work despite the fact that it is not an activity they enjoy and the RP quality/variety is always dogshit.

This is not in any way an accurate statement at all. Impound is not something that LSPD in any way shape or form ignores because we dislike the activity, and the RP quality/variety is always dogshit. It, like MD's roadworkers fire calls, are low priority regarding call hierarchy. It has been for the year and a half I've been in PD, and it has been before my time on this server. It's not "No one wants to come to impound" but more so "gangs are shooting at each other" or "someone at burgershot looked at me funny, so I smashed him with a bat" which starts a massive headache, or responding to house robberies, store robberies, atm robberies, you get the picture.

The thing that people constantly fail to see is that it's not that PD doesn't want to come to impound, it's we get side-tracked with more important calls that come in. It's a double-edged sword. You are at impound, want a car out, we don't arrive on time. So, we prioritize impound calls, but then you're making a 911 call because some person shot at you and killed your friend, and we don't respond in time to investigate. Lose-lose for PD in either case. We see the calls coming in. We request a free unit to respond. They make their way there, but if they are enroute and pull off, there's a reason for it, and it's not because it's "not an activity they enjoy", nor is it because "the RP quality/variety is always dogshit."

The conversation surrounding whether the devs make it automated or not is on them to decide the amount of work and effort it is needed to execute on. The relocation of the impound lot in the city was done because of the mapping updates that the Mod Team has been working hard on for many months to provide a fresh re-skin of the city and make it more enjoyable for everyone in the future.

[Sigma]

4 hours ago, SquirtleSquad said:

This is not in any way an accurate statement at all. Impound is not something that LSPD in any way shape or form ignores because we dislike the activity, and the RP quality/variety is always dogshit. It, like MD's roadworkers fire calls, are low priority regarding call hierarchy. It has been for the year and a half I've been in PD, and it has been before my time on this server. It's not "No one wants to come to impound" but more so "gangs are shooting at each other" or "someone at burgershot looked at me funny, so I smashed him with a bat" which starts a massive headache, or responding to house robberies, store robberies, atm robberies, you get the picture.

The thing that people constantly fail to see is that it's not that PD doesn't want to come to impound, it's we get side-tracked with more important calls that come in. It's a double-edged sword. You are at impound, want a car out, we don't arrive on time. So, we prioritize impound calls, but then you're making a 911 call because some person shot at you and killed your friend, and we don't respond in time to investigate. Lose-lose for PD in either case. We see the calls coming in. We request a free unit to respond. They make their way there, but if they are enroute and pull off, there's a reason for it, and it's not because it's "not an activity they enjoy", nor is it because "the RP quality/variety is always dogshit."

The conversation surrounding whether the devs make it automated or not is on them to decide the amount of work and effort it is needed to execute on. The relocation of the impound lot in the city was done because of the mapping updates that the Mod Team has been working hard on for many months to provide a fresh re-skin of the city and make it more enjoyable for everyone in the future.

Fully understand where youre coming from, however there is a good few members of PD who will just sit at a speed trap, you go up to them ask if they can meet you at impound, you end up going down there then they down turn up. And more often than not if you go and look for them theyre either in the same place or moved to a different speed trap.

I know it may not happen often but I think this is a reason why people get annoyed by the whole PD not showing up for impound calls, and the fact we cant call 911 because I know that impound calls can get lost in chat a lot. ( Potentially could implement a non-emergency line to resolve the whole 'incorrect use of government hotline' when calling for impound )

[SquirtleSquad]

6 hours ago, Payn said:

Fully understand where youre coming from, however there is a good few members of PD who will just sit at a speed trap, you go up to them ask if they can meet you at impound, you end up going down there then they down turn up. And more often than not if you go and look for them theyre either in the same place or moved to a different speed trap.

I know it may not happen often but I think this is a reason why people get annoyed by the whole PD not showing up for impound calls, and the fact we cant call 911 because I know that impound calls can get lost in chat a lot. ( Potentially could implement a non-emergency line to resolve the whole 'incorrect use of government hotline' when calling for impound )

A non-emergency line would honestly be ideal for all factions, MD/SD/PD. This is something we've been advocating for, for a long time. It makes a ton of sense, and even if you preface [NON-EMERGENCY] in your 911, depending on the Officer, you can still be subjected to IC consequences for this.

I can't speak on the speed traps portion. I know it used to be a big thing when I was much more active, and if it is still on-going, it must be when I'm heads down on something, or when I'm not online, so I'll have to take your experiences on that one as valid reasoning.

[Cup]

a non emergency line would be fantassssssstic. 

[Quietthecutie]

17 hours ago, SquirtleSquad said:

This is not in any way an accurate statement at all. Impound is not something that LSPD in any way shape or form ignores because we dislike the activity, and the RP quality/variety is always dogshit. It, like MD's roadworkers fire calls, are low priority regarding call hierarchy. It has been for the year and a half I've been in PD, and it has been before my time on this server. It's not "No one wants to come to impound" but more so "gangs are shooting at each other" or "someone at burgershot looked at me funny, so I smashed him with a bat" which starts a massive headache, or responding to house robberies, store robberies, atm robberies, you get the picture.

The thing that people constantly fail to see is that it's not that PD doesn't want to come to impound, it's we get side-tracked with more important calls that come in. It's a double-edged sword. You are at impound, want a car out, we don't arrive on time. So, we prioritize impound calls, but then you're making a 911 call because some person shot at you and killed your friend, and we don't respond in time to investigate. Lose-lose for PD in either case. We see the calls coming in. We request a free unit to respond. They make their way there, but if they are enroute and pull off, there's a reason for it, and it's not because it's "not an activity they enjoy", nor is it because "the RP quality/variety is always dogshit."

The conversation surrounding whether the devs make it automated or not is on them to decide the amount of work and effort it is needed to execute on. The relocation of the impound lot in the city was done because of the mapping updates that the Mod Team has been working hard on for many months to provide a fresh re-skin of the city and make it more enjoyable for everyone in the future.

i feel like you entirely misunderstood what i was trying to say.

I was praising LEOs for improving response times for impound in my personal experience, despite the fact its a poor quality RP experience. i wasnt insinuating it was a poor RP experience because of LEOs. Its a poor RP experience because the LEO has higher priority calls to attend to and the person trying to get their car out dosent want to sit around any longer than they have to. therefore both are motivated to just run through the motions and get it done as fast as possible.

 Reading the rest of your comment we agree on a bunch of things.

Edited April 23, 2024 by Quietthecutie

[vajo]

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[Ritchie Stones]

5 hours ago, vajo said:

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Its so enoying altho it got better since 3 years ago  

[padpilot]

Yeah +1

 

System worked in the hay day.. dead system now tbf. 

[Salvador Rivera]

+ 1 

I have been standing in line for several hours for someone to come. This would solve a lot .

[tigerpet15]

I’d like to mention a fun experience I had few years ago. I had cop to come in and Rp screaming at jimmy who towed the car out etc etc. It was done with /me and /do and it was awesome experience it wasn’t scripted all the time same rp and it made the rp way more pleasurable. I’d like to praise the LEOs for their response times. Like I’m waiting 10 minutes in avarage back in the day it was 30. I agree with the inclusion of non emergency line for LEOs for this and other rp purposes. I’d like to ask LEOs what is their opinion about impound and the rp there do u like it or it’s just waste of time for u… I’d like to hear ur opinions? 

[Teenyinnit]

17 hours ago, tigerpet15 said:

I’d like to mention a fun experience I had few years ago. I had cop to come in and Rp screaming at jimmy who towed the car out etc etc. It was done with /me and /do and it was awesome experience it wasn’t scripted all the time same rp and it made the rp way more pleasurable. I’d like to praise the LEOs for their response times. Like I’m waiting 10 minutes in avarage back in the day it was 30. I agree with the inclusion of non emergency line for LEOs for this and other rp purposes. I’d like to ask LEOs what is their opinion about impound and the rp there do u like it or it’s just waste of time for u… I’d like to hear ur opinions? 

Hello! I'm PD and was previously SD and given my recent duty reports I think i'm a good Officer to answer this.

I'm not a cop that likes the chases, I'd rather go to the impound and fill out paperwork and RP with people than do police chases in circles however I know that a lot of cops love the action.

I will always choose impound because for me personally it's the kind of PD RP i enjoy

Personally i think it should be like the ATM thing and the Citybee thing, if there aren't enough cops online you should be able to automate the system.

[Ritchie Stones]

- 1 i feel like we should definitely stand in line for 2 hours on a Saturday evening, to then figure out we still have tickets open and have to, go for another round +1000

[tigerpet15]

12 hours ago, Teenyinnit said:

Hello! I'm PD and was previously SD and given my recent duty reports I think i'm a good Officer to answer this.

I'm not a cop that likes the chases, I'd rather go to the impound and fill out paperwork and RP with people than do police chases in circles however I know that a lot of cops love the action.

I will always choose impound because for me personally it's the kind of PD RP i enjoy

Personally i think it should be like the ATM thing and the Citybee thing, if there aren't enough cops online you should be able to automate the system.

Honestly I appreciate that point I’m starting out in character with whom I’d like to become LEO but not because of the action which is not that fun in my opinion but just to RP investigating some fun small crime in depth. Like since I was playing for four years on my crim character. I’d like to rp in a way to make the rp pleasurable for me and crims also. And take the “win” mentality out of the equasion. Like personally I don’t mind loosing when I get really fun rp out of it. Though what makes me angry is the repetitive rp of getting arrested. Like I’ve seen it too many times. I would mind being taken into questioning rp more in deapt investigation (even though the time in jail would be longer) cause I’d find that fun. 
 

Either way if I may suggest something fun to rp is to make some kind of /me /do of screaming at jimmy to take the certain car out. It will only make people happy and the uncomfy experience of impound way more pleasurable. Also damn. We need more cops with ur mentality on the server :))). Keep going

[Jordan]

+1 if we could maybe find a way to make it dependent on the amount of LEOs online.

[Quietthecutie]

whilst i dont wanna mess with the "find out IC" rule what i will say is the impound script is quite interesting and typically SDs response times when it comes to getting stuff out at paleto is much better than in the city.

[Eliza]

I definitely think the impound should at least be Semi-Automatic. 
 

After a certain amount of time it’ll just release your cars and make you pay whatever the fine is automatically.

Or alternatively, lets say you ring the buzzer once, and it creates an actual call with the dispatch system, and after an officer responds to the call, it’ll notify the person at impound that someone is coming. 

Or you could have some remote release system via the MDC to remotely release the vehicle, and if the owner has a suspended license it won’t release it.

I play crim mostly during “demon hours” and usually that results in the few LEO units available being stretched thin, and in turn makes the impound response times a lot slower, which is no fault of anybody’s.

[Smoke1]

I think this would be a great idea!! sometimes theres low number of leo's online an you wait over a hour as they are busy, 

[Bala]

I'm down with semi-automated when we don't have enough people to staff it, players shouldn't pay the price for a lack of availability. That being said, in the case that we do have enough people, it should be us that releases the vehicles.

After all, it's not singleplayer.

[Mikazuki Ueno]

-1 as this helps with realism and roleplay.