DeanThompson Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Edit - This faction could be a division of the new government faction Federal Aviation Administration The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of San Andreas is a national authority with powers to regulate, investigate and enforce all aspects of civil aviation. Major Functions Issuing, suspending, or revoking pilot licences All persons flying in San Andreas must be the holder of an FAA approved pilots licence or be under instruction of a pilot who holds an instructor rating on their pilots licence. A person can obtain a pilots licence by completing flight training (either through a private flying school or directly through the FAA) and then completing a pilots exam and practical flying test with an FAA examiner. If a person passes their pilots exam and practical flying test they will be issued with a pilots licence. Regulate, monitor and manage air space The FAA is the sole regulator of civil aviation within San Andreas and is responsible for managing, regulating and monitoring San Andreas air space. The FAA produces readily accessible publications for pilots including air space charts, weather information and temporary air space restrictions. Provide air traffic control services to San Andreas All air traffic control services (ATC) are provided by FAA air traffic controllers. Air traffic controllers undergo specialist training and provide ATC services within controlled air space. ATC services can also be provided to persons outside of controlled air space on pilot request. Respond to and investigate aviation incidents All aviation incidents are responded to and investigated by the FAA. This can range from minor breaches such as air space violations, through to air crash investigations, and up to air defense response. Air defense response is provided by the Surveillance and Response Group (SRG). SRG operatives are military trained pilots and have access to fighter jet aircraft On occasion SRG operatives will conduct aerial patrols in these aircraft to ensure the safety of San Andreas Air Space. Should an emergency situation arise where an aircraft is likely to endanger the lives of people SRG operatives will mobilize and intercept that aircraft. They will attempt by all means to negotiate a safe and peaceful outcome however they have the authority to if necessary disable that aircraft using deadly force. Prosecuting offenders The FAA is responsible for holding offenders to account for any breaches of aviation law. Penalties for offenders may range from formal warnings, fines, licence suspensions, and imprisonment. Divisions Licensing and Regulations Department Responsible for issuing, suspending, and revoking pilot licences Produce publications for pilots relating to civil aviation (including air space maps, restrictions, weather information) Prosecuting offenders violating aviation law Surveillance and Response Group (SRG) Monitor radars and identify unidentified flying objects Respond to air security incidents Air Traffic Control Services Provide Air Traffic Control services to all aircraft in San Andreas (( Out of character )) Lets bring aviation roleplay to Eclipse RP. With aviation must come regulation and enforcement, and that is precisely what the FAA will do. People must apply for and get a pilots licence from the FAA to be able to fly. If people are found flying unlicensed or breaching aviation law the FAA will issue charges. FAA will create all documents relating to aviation rules, air space etc. FAA SRG operatives will have access to fighter jets but strict conditions and roleplay standards will be imposed. Players flying air craft will need to set their radio to the ATC frequency and take instructions from air traffic controllers. Refusing to do so is a serious offence and will likely result in pilots licences being revoked, criminal charges and depending on the circumstances if serious enough may result in a figher jet being scrambled to intercept. Whilst this post does not go into elaborate detail if this idea is approved in concept I will develop this much further to be a full working model. (( Fighter Jets Intercepting Aircraft - How will it look? )) Fighter jet intercepts for aircraft won't be an excuse to shoot down aircraft. It will be a series of procedures and defined escalation process, with the ultimate escalation and last resort being to shoot the plane down. It will be similar to this video here: Edited February 9, 2019 by DeanThompson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazz Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I'd love to see something like this in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGameNoName Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 BIG +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImRazer Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Huge +1 especially the fighter jet part since i can see how people may abuse their pilots license. So stopping them quickly is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSplashy Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Would love to see this happen +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donovan Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ImRazer said: Huge +1 especially the fighter jet part since i can see how people may abuse their pilots license. So stopping them quickly is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanThompson Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ImRazer said: Huge +1 especially the fighter jet part since i can see how people may abuse their pilots license. So stopping them quickly is a must. What I had in mind (and I'll link it into the main part of the post) for fighter jet intercepts was something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoza Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 +1 Love the idea of aircraft, -1 on the faction idea due to already limited players and limited factions you can join at one time. Discussed quite a bit already here. A lot of this can be automated or managed by staff or overseen by police due to what should be a very small limit of aircraft at one time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marca Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Very interesting, I would definitely try to get a license and my own helicopter if this was a thing. I can also imagine people causing some havoc with helicopters, like prison breaks and all that. It would be interesting to see, but there should be severe IC consequences. Helicopters/planes should be very expensive and same goes for fuel. I see this as more late game, luxury content. People could also earn money off of this, so it does offer lots of potential. There should be a script to check if someone had aviation training (MD, PD and FAA), so people don't just steal helis/planes and do whatever they want with them. This would be essential, since the pilot could timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Capone Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I definitively would be opposed to having a legal faction dedicated to this, as am I opposed to having jets ready to intercept civilian aircraft. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke kuperus Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 +1 although i don't think fighter jets would be a good idea. Maybe a Western Rogue as patrol vehicle Maybe even a besra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BantaMan Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 looks awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanThompson Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 8:12 PM, Darnell said: I definitively would be opposed to having a legal faction dedicated to this, as am I opposed to having jets ready to intercept civilian aircraft. -1 Fighter jets are whats used to intercept civilian aircraft - This would be the air force on request from air traffic control via the necessary chains of command but for the purpose of the server and it's population it makes sense to have it all in one faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanThompson Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Now that we have a government faction perhaps the FAA could be a government faction division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_Smokerson Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 +1 I love this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFarmer Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 +1 i mentioned this suggestion to my friend and now he's considering joining the server. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowX722 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prezeey Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drystan Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodiz Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 +1 Structured and well planned. I really hope we can see something like this added in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixton Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Dont need another legal faction. +1 only if this was a government branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCHcuky Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) On 1/16/2019 at 12:46 AM, DeanThompson said: Federal Aviation Administration First off +1 to the infinity power! As for the name? L.S.A.A or Los Santos Aviation Administration? On 2/11/2019 at 8:59 AM, ParkerTM said: Don't need another legal faction. +1 only if this was a government branch. I Agree with what you said hear Parker on it being a government Branch. Won't clutter the main forums and have a structure to it. On 1/16/2019 at 12:46 AM, DeanThompson said: A person can obtain a pilots licence by completing flight training (either through a private flying school or directly through the FAA) and then completing a pilots exam and practical flying test with an FAA examiner. If a person passes their pilots exam and practical flying test they will be issued with a pilots licence. I think we should divide the certifications in three that being (1) For Student, (2) for Recreational, and (3) Private Pilot or PPL. Each having their corresponding restrictions which gradually goes away during time, and rank. To put it simply Student Pilot - Can fly around Sandy Shores to Grape Seed Airfield. No Passengers. Recreational Pilot - Can fly anywhere around the county as long as they are 1,000 ft above any structure, and remain clear of Restricted Airspace or Class B (LSX). May carry Passengers. Aircraft restrictions? I'll leave that to the administration and government but personally it's any aircraft that dose not exceed 180 hours power. Private Pilot - Can fly anywhere around the county or city as long as they are 1,000 ft above any structure, and remain clear of Restricted Airspace's. Can enter Class B airspace as well (LSX). Can be issued Ratings! Rotorcraft or Helicopter Rating. Government Employee Rating (LEO/SAR/Gov Factions). F-16 Rating. [Note: This will not be handed over like candy. You have to earn it!] Sport / Para-dropping Rating. [you know what this means!] And any others I missed. Training? I say do it like the DMV for the student Pilot. Before anyone can take the exam they have to come on the government forums and pass a security check. After cleared than they can walk up to the point at Sandy Shores Airfield and take the LSAA knowledge Exam for a student. After they pass they can get into an aircraft and fly the checkpoints while reading the [Instructor] words carefully! If they pass they are a student Pilot! Buy a Cessna or Dodo or what they called? Help a brother out! And fly around Sandy Shores and Grape-Seed airstrip. Yes they are restricted to LSX for the time being. Then "when they choose" they can apply for their Recreational or Jump over to PPL. The choice is yours to make. On 1/16/2019 at 12:46 AM, DeanThompson said: Air Traffic Control Services Provide Air Traffic Control services to all aircraft in San Andreas. For ATC anyone can apply for this. Pilot or not. They can communicate to other pilots over a given radio frequency. 3-2 of them on average. When off duty CTAF will be used across all airspace's. 1 at LSX, 1 at Sandy, and 1 that assists at LSX. On 1/16/2019 at 12:46 AM, DeanThompson said: (( Fighter Jets Intercepting Aircraft - How will it look? )) Fighter jet intercepts for aircraft won't be an excuse to shoot down aircraft. It will be a series of procedures and defined escalation process, with the ultimate escalation and last resort being to shoot the plane down. As for fighter jets I'm not sure how the administration wishes to do this over hear but I see it as a last case scenario. If we get a renegade plane than PD should be the primary resource. Typically planes are scrambled when it's an "unresponsive plane, or breaching restricted airspace" such as fort Zankudo or landing in the middle of the street in LS. Other Ideas: Again not sure how we should restrict all the planes. I leave that open for discussion. /transponder ON command [Doing this will allow anyone that is an on duty ATC or pilot see the persons blimp on the map. This means you can turn it off hint hint!] Also you have to be in the aircraft in order to get the blimp. Ground Crewman. People that can re-fuel your aircraft. Mechanics like Bay View can fix planes or customize them? Is this even possible in GTAV? That's it! Let me know what you all think! Edited February 26, 2019 by TheCHcuky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skzeljo Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 +1 Like the idea and there will be room for specific RP which is not often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...