Glaikit Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Could unofficial gangs get fchat or a substitute for fchat, like some sort of grouping system that wont be displayed on the F4 menu? There are a good couple of criminal gangs now with 25-35 members and if you've spent any time on their frequencies then you'd know that certain amounts of mixing is completely unavoidable, as they need to inform their members to "save bodycam" or "don't do that" and when asked why? You simply have to go silent because you can't say it. It's very inconvenient and if an Fchat (or a substitute) could be implemented for unofficial gangs it would make the RP over frequency so much more immersive. 2 1 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Ueno Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 -1 I feel this should be something that is an additional perk for official factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 +1 I feel like faction chat is extremely useful for the ability to communicate with your entire faction OOCly no matter where they are on the map and also cut the amount of /b usage. Whether its to inform members of rules, paused RP, etc. It seems like something extremely useful for every faction to have and could better not just a factions RP but the entirety of RP on the server. That being said I do not think that every unofficial faction should have access to fchat as it can easily be abused for MG purposes and such. But I think factions who have guides and get approval from their Faction Services team could and should earn the ability to have faction chat as its undeniably very very useful to have and can improve the quality of your faction tremendously. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awa Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyme Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 +1 It would really help reduce the mixing on radio frequencies and just overall improve the quality of life of being a unofficial gang. 1 hour ago, Chris_ said: That being said I do not think that every unofficial faction should have access to fchat as it can easily be abused for MG purposes and such. But I think factions who have guides and get approval from their Faction Services team could and should earn the ability to have faction chat as its undeniably very very useful to have and can improve the quality of your faction tremendously. I also strongly agree with this statement as it would enable opportunities for less known unofficial to MG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 There is never a point in time where mixing is unavoidable. You shouldn't be saying "save bodycam" or "don't do that" when referring to anything OOC. The only real "accepted" mixing is code 0 and cough drop. Anything else should be done using /b or /pm depending on the context of the situation. Please utilize the already available resources. If you do not know the IDs of your allies, you can PM using player names as such: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, SmushyTaco said: What if you need to PM 10+ people in your gang to save POV and don't have faction chat to easily do so? You PM 10+ people or ping them in your faction discord. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melody Frey Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 +1... but kind of. I agree with what Chris said pretty heavily, it would help with immersion a lot and cutting out the ability to have to /pm so many people if you see a rulebreak broken or something. I'd really love to see factions get access to it through permission from their faction guides, that way it could avoid being abused. While it is one of the bigger perks of becoming official, it would be a great quality-of-life change for factions on the path to official and would give them a solid milestone to be proud of. Currently our faction path is: Start faction, make forum posts, get guides, get advice on how to get official and what should be worked on, then official. Putting more milestones/rewards into that mix wouldn't hurt imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 -1 Feel like F chat is a sort of achievement for when you get official, in my opinion unofficial gangs have to demonstrate their abilities of handling OOC issues via the methods all and each player has access to before getting the "Official status" and access to private chats like FactionC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyMayhem Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Members of 'factions' should already know the rules well enough to not be told "dont do that" if you need to say that to people in your group maybe question who you are letting in, also if there is a situation where you need to save pov i would assume all the people that need to be notified are at least in the current area with you. Faction chat is basically a glorified way of ooc communication and is seen as more of a perk for being official. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eco376 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, jason said: You PM 10+ people or ping them in your faction discord. There is not always time for these things and you know this, often times because of RP still ongoing you are literally unable to ping 10 plus people at once to let them know they need POV or anything else. This isnt something that should be limited to official factions, but it shouldnt be given to every group that pops up either. An F chat for proven factions should be added IMO. Due to being in a faction that isnt official I will be literally unable to inform anyone of anything in my gang if im in an active RP situation. And by the time I get a chance to ask people for POVs, it will be far too late. So BIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGG +1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bala Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Big -1, it's a perk of being an official faction and should stay that way. I'm not totally convinced that some of these unofficial factions should even exist on the server half the time, so giving them something like this would be a hard pass from me. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lSpixsy Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 -1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Spicy take but I don't even like that there's mass ooc chat for official/government factions in-game already so -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destuin Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 +1 have a sort of teams chat as opposed to standard f chat created by faction management. Helps with solving reports, rules queries, and reduces mixing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santanaa Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 +1 I agree, this shouldn't be available to every gang out there, but gangs that have guides and are established should have some sort of /f 0 chat in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 10 hours ago, eco376 said: There is not always time for these things and you know this, often times because of RP still ongoing you are literally unable to ping 10 plus people at once to let them know they need POV or anything else. This isnt something that should be limited to official factions, but it shouldnt be given to every group that pops up either. An F chat for proven factions should be added IMO. Due to being in a faction that isnt official I will be literally unable to inform anyone of anything in my gang if im in an active RP situation. And by the time I get a chance to ask people for POVs, it will be far too late. So BIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGG +1 That's... that's what it is currently. F chat for proven factions. Proven factions are official factions. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 The faction chat is given to groups that have proven themselves after months. They didn't mix IC/OOC for months, and you can avoid doing it too. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikazuki Ueno Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, alexalex303 said: The faction chat is given to groups that have proven themselves after months. They didn't mix IC/OOC for months, and you can avoid doing it too. @SmushyTaco - That's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnston Granger Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 -1 fchat should be a perk for becoming official - use gang discord or pms if you need to communicate oocly with your members 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eco376 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 hours ago, jason said: That's... that's what it is currently. F chat for proven factions. Proven factions are official factions. any reason youre responding to people so sarcastically when its just a suggestion man? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyromite Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 -1 Too much room for abuse, why can't you just use discord pings? To be fair faction chat is mostly meme's anyway for most of the factions I've been in. If they got rid of fchat altogether I wouldn't miss it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eco376 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gyromite said: -1 Too much room for abuse, why can't you just use discord pings? To be fair faction chat is mostly meme's anyway for most of the factions I've been in. If they got rid of fchat altogether I wouldn't miss it. how is there too much room for abuse? seems like theres more room for abuse over discord PMs in my opinion. and sure f chat is mainly memes but its also very nice when needed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooks Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 +1 It just makes sense as you've mentioned reduces unintentional mixing and just a QOL upgrade. The only real problem with this could be metagaming with new players but im sure there could be rules implemented to counter this and make it known what it shouldn't be used for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sico Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 -1 I feel like this is an achievement for becoming an official faction and I think it would be better to keep it that way, if anything happens you can use your factions discord to contact the people who were part of the situation. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
