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Moderators regularly mark buildings for dismantling if they break any of the building rules. Aesthetics will always be subjective though.

That is the issue that people are trying to address with the proposed heavy restriction. There seems to be a feeling that rather than wait for backup, cops just pull out a carbine and go in. If they only had a carbine every 12 hours, perhaps they wouldn't do that.

Check the quote. I added my points after the "-"

I feel that this entire post is written by someone that's always been a legal character and has very little experience with the daily struggles of a criminal.

Interesting. Curious to see how this will be fleshed out in-game.

An obvious thing to lose is paycheck. Could say that for every death a cop loses X hours from their shift hours, due to having to stay in hospital for recovery/paying extra hospital fees. They'll still be able to pay, but their hours will go down, and as such their salary.

Cars with passengers are noticeably slower, you should not have people in your car when you're racing. ZEZ wasn't a bad luck charm, he was a handicap, literally.

Met with Rooks to discuss a recent assassination and the upcoming party. Cruisers started circling the area around the motel. In light of the selective law enforcement from the LSPD, we moved the meeting to the club, where we'd at least be away from preying eyes. Loaded up, we drove through the city before ultimately visiting most drug manufacturing sites. A motorbike was stolen from the Triads, and when we spotted it, a joint pursuit was prosecuted to catch the thief.

Andre was invited by Jamaar to speak and bear witness to the expulsion of Emina from the Wanted. The cohort of WCA spotted a Russian by Osvaldon's and followed him briefly until he took refuge in the camera zone at Paleto bank and refused to leave. In the absence of any resistance, the men fell upon the drug labs and preyed upon any unaffiliated people found. Resting after a good day of hunting, they were paid a visit by the belligerent Lieutenant who all but dared them to shoot him. Having avoided a shootout with law enforcement, the group met with a couple of prospects that were brought forth by a dedicated member. Having completed the necessary prerequisites, they went together to the nearby clothing store and got their colors. They were now in, albeit on a trial basis, they will have to prove their worth when the time comes.

But the opinion of a law enforcement main is more relevant? When was the last time you robbed a store? The point of my statement is that the activity is barely worth doing right now, and if you want to increase the risk and manpower needed, you also need to increase the reward.

Rain lowers FPS and may put players at a severe disadvantage because it doesn't sync properly. I suggest it be removed just like the cover system, until appropriate syncing can be done.

I think that it's mostly some kind of social correctness pressure clouding your view. There are many times in which a couple of dudes will act obviously thirsty towards an attractive girl, and it's the same here. It's more exaggerated because it's the internet, but so is everything else. Realistically in Los Angeles you wouldn't have this many cops shot every day, however cops get shot, and they get shot here, just more exaggerated. There's also plenty of people in real-life that say provocative things for attention, maybe not in a public place like the bank, but definitively over the internet (as in, real internet: twitter and such). If you just remember that everything on the server is exaggerated compared to real-life, I think you will find that the racism/sexism fits into that quite well. I don't think discussion is ever pointless, however, I can acknowledge that I'm probably in the minority there and most people would like a quick and easy shut, even if more discussion could bring a better outcome. I don't really see the relevance of your ending paragraph, unless you wish to suggest that making a rule against racism would increase our RP standard 10 times over.

This is not a place to discuss the Russian Mafia or their OOC conduct. If you feel that they have broken a server rule, make a player report. If you feel that are behaving unfit of a faction, contact the faction management team. This thread should only be discussing WCA and our progression as a faction. Thank you.

How do you explain the driver exam tutorial then? When you get to see various buildings as if you were there? You add a text overlay saying CCTV on top of that and you got a working CCTV system.

This whole thing where we say that racism and sexual harassment of women is unrealistic is untenable. Why do we have movements like black lives matter and countless movements against women being treated unfairly if it's not an issue in real-life? We could say that it happens more in-game, and that might even be true, but I don't believe it's to the degree where its unrealistic. I don't like how you dismiss certain things out of hand as "not fitting his character", what do you really know about his character? did you read his character story? did you spend time with the character then he randomly shouts the n word?

It's very interesting how the person that is in a faction with IC rules against racism doesn't mind OOC rules against racism. Perhaps you should consider how this rule might affect the rest of the community and their roleplay.

Tax collection day was coming to a close, there was a heavy rain, but we did not want to miss it, so we went ahead and scheduled a meeting with Jay. Supplementing the obvious goal of making good on our dues, the meeting proved a good time to discuss the latest events that happened in the city, and our plans for the future. Trey and Andre were providing support for a member chopping a car, when Andre noticed that someone else was chopping a vehicle belonging to the Rooks. The suspected perpetrators were shortly stopped and questioned. It was during a party at the tavern that two men wearing green decided to test our resolve, and challenge us to prove that we do in fact own the color. Neither of them posed any threat, however their friend, Chanty started screaming that her boyfriend is in the council and this will surely be our demise. After some investigation, we found that her boyfriend is a relatively low-ranking member of the Rooks, and we received the green light to take care of her. Andre specifically told her that she's gonna get a haircut, to which she scoffed and kept threatening her boyfriend's wrath. She then turned to law enforcement to protect her; Singling out Andre as supposedly having heavy weapons on him. Desperate and with little options left, she got on a drag and ran to the Wanted Refresh, trying to seek asylum with them. She wasn't to find any safe haven from us. She sought the protection of her boyfriend, law enforcement and even from other gangs. In the end, nothing could save her from the promised haircut. Humiliated and defeated, Andre gave her the mercy of a relatively quick death, as she was stabbed repeatedly. Catching the Wanted just as they were about to race, Andre thanked them for their cooperation in dealing with the overconfident snitch. Late into the evening, delayed by the original snitch, they get delayed by yet another snitch. The man pulled up in a red truck and called the cops on them. Unsurprisingly, he turned out to be a well known snitch and the Rooks gave us a hand with disabling the large truck. The kill was all Andre's though, as he got quite an appetite for snitches. Two snitches dealt with, the doubly delayed meeting finally took place, and friendly relations were established with the newly formed Yakuza. As the day drew to a close, we paid our dues to the other half of the council, and spent a good amount of time discussing the events of the day, including copious amounts of laughter about Chanty, as she seems to be well known in town as a loudmouth.

In order words, lets make robbing stores even harder even though the risk/reward is already in the minus? -1

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So next time when I get arrested without evidence, I can ask the cop to release me because it's making me feel a certain way OOCly? Either we separate IC and OOC, or we don't. There are a number of things people can do to affect you ICly, that should stay IC. GTA V is rated 18+.

As the organization grew and set quite strong roots in its corner of the city, the council convened and asked for their dues, which were promptly given. The terms were in line with the previous attitude from the council: very kind towards the still new organization. War broke out between the Council and the Russian Mafia. WCA proclaimed from the very beginning that they would not make a move against the council, not now, not ever. However, the Russian leadership was persistent to the point of pestering, and we decided to send them a message. We met with the triads and planned a setup. A meeting was set with the Russian Mafia leadership, and the Triads were informed, and they informed Zetas. The combined might of the council was about to rain down on the Russian Mafia. However, the Russian showing was anemic and Jay took great personal pleasure in pointing that out to the beleaguered Artyom. It wasn't long before Russian members called the police in an attempt to outsmart the council, however, there was no amount of law enforcement that could tame the beast that awake in them. Jay spoke down to Artyom, and told him bluntly: "No one will stand with you, only failed gangs. Your only ally is the police, and we're about to show you that they can't protect you either.". Shortly afterwards, the streets around Benny's Motorworks were red with law enforcement blood, and the message was clear: No one will be able to help the Russians. The following day, law enforcement overplayed their hand once more, and found themselves massacred by the combined forces of the Council, Rooks and WCA at the golf course. It seemed clear as day that police will not be a reliable ally to the Russians, no matter how many times they called upon them. As the war raged on, the streets continued to talk about the organization, and it's new home in Vespucci, which prompted new interest, and the fitting joined the ranks. Outcast remained unorganized and their standing untenable. It seems that what was left of their leadership completely left town. During the meeting of a possible new addition to the gang, the Russian Mafia decided to overplay their hand and attacked a cluster of our members. Some losses were sustained on our side, but the entire Russian contingent was wiped out. The group regularly partakes in joint efforts to stop the fleeing Russians, everyone in the city, with all of the friends of the council, and the council themselves. Very little seems to stand in the way of a promising future for the new group, as they bought up apartments in Vespucci, and achieved a long-term goal by purchasing a nearby club. -- To be continued as events unfold in-game --

The Gang met up with the Triad High Command and the council seemed to be united in understanding and attitude. Bruce was positive beyond expectation, and it felt like we were speaking as equals, even though they could crush us at any time they chose to. We embarked on the long journey with a positive step, and with communication channels wide-open. We decided to take advantage of the glorious momentum and start approaching drug labs in the hope of finding outcast, unmet groups or random drug makers. At this particular site we managed to apprehend the latter, and they were promptly relieved of their valuables. Not wanting to relieve any pressure off the Outcast, a yellow Phoenix was pursued with great ferocity all throughout the city, until he finally surrendered and was similarly relieved of his belongings by their group. The good relations with the council and regular incursions into drug laboratories and chop shops created somewhat of a buzz around the group, and numerous prospects approached the gang for membership. Only the best of the bunch were allowed to enter on a trial basis, and the growth had really kicked off. It was in this state of affairs that the group found itself pitted against law enforcement for the first time. Cops were pacified, but not before losses were incurred, and emergency treatment was required for at least half of the participants. The Tavern posted advertisements about a party, and knowing the ownership of the club, and the likely attendees, the leadership believed this to be a great opportunity for both strengthening of relationships, and entertainment, at the same time. The amenities were pleasing as well. As the aforementioned buzz continued to carry the gang's name throughout the city, The Wanted became aware of the organization, and a meeting took place in Stab City. The leader of the Wanted Jamaar was much more brief in his welcome to the city, but it was none-the-less positive. Similar to how the Council taxes non-council organizations, the Rooks tax other organizations. Following a high command vote however, they decided that WCA would be exempt from the Rooks' taxation in perpetuity, regardless of numbers. The forbearance was due to our group's policy of quality over quantity, that would likely produce a worthy ally to the Rooks'.

At the request of the Faction Management team and numerous community members, I have decided to summarize our history since coming into town, and the notable events from screenshots and other media. I will try my best to remain factual and lean less on fantasy compared to certain other organizations. As with all posts in the OOC section of the forums, none of the contents should be taken In-Character. The city of Los Santos is home to a wide range of organizations, criminal and otherwise. The most notable ones being the members of the alliance dubbed "The Council", which was formed by the two largest and most organized criminal syndicates in town: Los Zetas and The Triads. Los Zetas are the oldest criminal organization still active in town by far, and they have been through a large number of wars and law reforms, they weathered a lot of storms, and it made them into the strongest group in town. Triads are relatively new compared to Zetas, however they should not be under-estimated based on age. They are a highly effective group of individuals that do not hesitate to strike, in large numbers, and with specialized equipment, against both law enforcement and criminals alike. Wanted are a relatively large racing crew that more than occasionally engages in arms dealing and the operation of chop shops. They will out-drive you, and kill you, should you provoke them. They are otherwise relatively friendly towards most individuals. Rooks are the newest of the large organizations. They are a re-brand of the old Irish Mob and Los Calaveras; they have grown into their own identity, which has so far strayed far away from the mistakes of the organizations that they outlived. Russian Mafia are a small to medium organization that prides itself on their bright white vehicles, and bright white suits, which contrast with their black skull masks. Outcast are a small organization with seemingly no leadership capable of conducting diplomacy or otherwise lead their conscripts. DeAndre, Trey and Marlo settle in the new city, and before long they learn a great deal about the underground world. They decide that the most prudent course of action would be to approach The Council themselves, rather than wait and get approached. After a short amount of time asking at a particular store, Jay Gamble's number was obtained, and a meeting was set. Depending on who you asked on the street, Jay could be described as reasonable, unreasonable and everything in between. However, when they met, Mr. Gamble was nothing but polite, and seemed to be genuinely interested in WCA's well-being. He explained that all criminal organizations that operate within the city must pay a tax to the council, to cover for lost income as a result of their non-aggression and to disincentivize mindless recruiting. They said that tax will not be collected until the new gang settles into their own. They also put us in contact with the leadership of the Triads. They met up with a man that goes by "Ace", he also unironically refers to himself as "Big Ace" but has so far convinced no one to call him that. To celebrate the start of a good relationship with at least half of the council, the group decided to visit the inauguration of a strip club in Paleto Bay. As a result of club policy, no weapons were permitted inside, and bodyguards would search everyone that goes inside. The group placed all of their guns in a gang vehicle, and went inside together. As they walked outside, they caught a man wearing yellow clothing attempting to steal their weapons out of the vehicle. He was promptly held at gunpoint by Ace, who stashed his pistol in his own car, and he was brought to a nearby alleyway, where we attempted to give him a haircut as punishment for the attempted stealing, he resisted, and was shot. The Outcast was put on the hit-list, and they began to get hit, everywhere. We then used our momentum to recruit several rather quality members, and placed our claim in Grove Street. DeAndre received a text from a man named "Artyom", who claimed to represent the Russian Mafia, and asked for a meet. Unfortunately the meeting was attacked by still unknown perpetrators, suspected to be the goal-challenged "Daniels gang". Most of the people involved were sent to the hospital.

You have provided two dubious links and one from the netherlands which has no bearing of how officers behave in the united states, or specifically, California. I suggest you look up confirmation bias.