ArcAngel Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Fake ID What: Criminals are able to gather materials to make fake ID's for people. It involves luck and chance to be able to create good/bad quality ID's. This will require ID's to be a physical item. I think it would be great to create a slot similar to earrings so that it doesnt take space. This will mean other ID's (Real ones) Will have to be physical Criminals can make fake ID's and sell them for whatever price they wish. How: Materials are needed for this task, you will need a crafting table that DOESNT require ventilation. You will require card, lamination sheets, holographic paper and HD printing ink. You will stand at the table, load the ingredients and every 30 minutes 1 fake ID is created. Buffers: To make it fair, you have a 50/50 chance of making excellent quality ID's. So the options are Excellent/Good - Sub-par Bad. Excellent/Good ID's will have realistic names and ages which you can /inspectID Subpar/Bad ID's will have strange names that are silly with strange ages which again you can check. Fake ID's last for 24 hours, BECAUSE when ran through the MDC, it will bring up a temporary FAKE record (So that officers aren't suspicious). At the moment you have to /time stamp RP to drop your license, i propose that you can right click /drop your License, but it will re-appear in your inventory after 4 hours. How does this affect /prison Realistically you cannot prison someone who you cannot adequately identify so here is what i propose for this. You cannot prison someone without ID, it would give you a prompt if you try to do it: "You cannot prison this person, they don't have any ID!" The only way you can now prison someone is if you know their full first and lastname. This is so that you can ascertain their identity realistically and this will also allow for the fake ID system to be put into play. Examples: Ben gets the tools to create fake ID. He crafts the ID, and it is of excellent quality. Upon crafting completion, a temporary fake rapsheet is created based on name availability Ben /inspectID's his new item. It would show: This ID is of Excellent Quality and reads: Eleanor Wheatsheef Ben sells the ID to Amy. Amy is a hardened criminal. Amy hangs around her criminal friends when a drive-by happens. Amy is questioned by the police after the fact. They take her ID, inspecting it. They would see: This ID is of Excellent Quality and reads: Eleanor Wheatsheef They would look up this person and see they don't have a record. Amy is set free. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben gets the tools to create fake ID. He crafts the ID, and it is of excellent quality. Upon crafting completion, a temporary fake rapsheet is created based on name availability Ben /inspectID's his new item. It would show: This ID is of Excellent Quality and reads: Brian Jensen Ben sells the ID to John, John steals a car and is caught. Police check the ID and it would show: This ID is of Excellent Quality and reads: Brian Jensen When officers look up his rapsheet, he has no priors so Brian is given a lesser sentence. Edited July 29, 2021 by arcangel 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimja Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 Great idea! How does it work charging the fake ID and then /prison the caught criminal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcAngel Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 If you have any ideas that could improve this suggestion, feel free to add it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcAngel Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 So i propose that the /prison command is linked with the ID. For example, you cannot prison someone who doesn't have ID on them UNLESS they have fingerprints in the system. If they have fingerprints/DNA in the system, you can /prison FIRSTNAME_LASTNAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frezas Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 I am not playing as criminal, but I would like to see this type of RP. Idea is good, and I support it! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus_ Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 Similar topic posted a couple weeks ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 hours ago, arcangel said: The only way you can now prison someone is if you know their full first and lastname. This would need to account for things like mugshots and fingerprints which could positively identify someone also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirQubed Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 the /license command in general should stop posting the information in text chat and instead should be just be giving people the persons name. LSPD should have to search the persons name in the MDC in order to find out what licenses they have and whether or not they are suspended/revoked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivoxbl Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) Hey folks! I totally get where you're coming from with this. Keeping personal info private is key. Maybe a system where only the name pops up and the rest is for the LSPD to check out sounds like a solid compromise. Also, stumbled upon this site for those interested: https://fakeyourdrank.com/pricing . Edited April 17 by Vivoxbl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontSniffSugar Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 +1 I wanna be a 25 year old organ donor from Hawaii More seriously I think this would be an excellent implementation and was well written. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Berg Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 +1 Great Suggestion, the jailing commands would work great with this as you can use Player ID's (E.g Numbers) to jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibyrd Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 +1 Idea is from 3 years ago and has suddenly popped up again but damn its a real good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortem Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 +1 also please add fake number plates so that you can speed as much as you want without getting fines aswell as not get stopped by fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Einhart Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) Scenario: I watch someone kill somebody else. I arrest that person. Due to this mechanic, I'm ultimately unable to identify them, despite clearly watching them commit a murder. I also discover this person doesn't have fingerprints in the database, taking away my only method of identifying people that don't have ID. If I don't know the person's name due to this mechanic, I also can't check the arrest report database for a mugshot. There are thousands of entries, and that person could have easily changed the way their character looks since the last mugshot. This also assumes the person has any criminal history recorded in the database. This could be their first crime after all. That person sits in a jail cell the whole time while I struggle through this, and ultimately can't reach a resolution. Now what? Please tell me the exact steps I would have to take to conclude this scenario without saying "let them go." Please include as much detail as possible. Also explain to me how this interaction is fun for anyone involved. Edited May 9 by Victor Einhart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLMB Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcAngel Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 8 hours ago, Victor Einhart said: Scenario: I watch someone kill somebody else. I arrest that person. Due to this mechanic, I'm ultimately unable to identify them, despite clearly watching them commit a murder. I also discover this person doesn't have fingerprints in the database, taking away my only method of identifying people that don't have ID. If I don't know the person's name due to this mechanic, I also can't check the arrest report database for a mugshot. There are thousands of entries, and that person could have easily changed the way their character looks since the last mugshot. This also assumes the person has any criminal history recorded in the database. This could be their first crime after all. That person sits in a jail cell the whole time while I struggle through this, and ultimately can't reach a resolution. Now what? Please tell me the exact steps I would have to take to conclude this scenario without saying "let them go." Please include as much detail as possible. Also explain to me how this interaction is fun for anyone involved. Add a command to combat this that can only be used by Supervisor + or JB prosecutors (It can be regulated for abuse by staff). /prison JD [time] /jail JD [time] (John Doe/Jane Doe) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibyrd Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) 10 hours ago, Victor Einhart said: Scenario: I watch someone kill somebody else. I arrest that person. Due to this mechanic, I'm ultimately unable to identify them, despite clearly watching them commit a murder. I also discover this person doesn't have fingerprints in the database, taking away my only method of identifying people that don't have ID. If I don't know the person's name due to this mechanic, I also can't check the arrest report database for a mugshot. There are thousands of entries, and that person could have easily changed the way their character looks since the last mugshot. This also assumes the person has any criminal history recorded in the database. This could be their first crime after all. That person sits in a jail cell the whole time while I struggle through this, and ultimately can't reach a resolution. Now what? Please tell me the exact steps I would have to take to conclude this scenario without saying "let them go." Please include as much detail as possible. Also explain to me how this interaction is fun for anyone involved. Congrats you discovered how it works in real life! edit: just make it so everybody has fingerprints if there’s really an issue, anyone that moves to the US will have their prints taken anyway Edited May 9 by Sibyrd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcAngel Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 25 minutes ago, Sibyrd said: edit: just make it so everybody has fingerprints if there’s really an issue, anyone that moves to the US will have their prints taken anyway If they're born in the US, their prints aren't necessarily taken until a crime is commited or they join a government job that requires biometrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibyrd Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, ArcAngel said: If they're born in the US, their prints aren't necessarily taken until a crime is commited or they join a government job that requires biometrics. Or they leave the country for even a holiday which is extremely likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_Coraal Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 i asked something about this in alt rp recently +1, id love to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zion Willard Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) On 7/30/2021 at 9:47 AM, SirQubed said: the /license command in general should stop posting the information in text chat and instead should be just be giving people the persons name. LSPD should have to search the persons name in the MDC in order to find out what licenses they have and whether or not they are suspended/revoked. Licenses are, by nature, going to show what they're licensed for but I definitely support needing to look through the MDC to confirm validity. This obviously would require dev support to show the actual status of licenses in the MDC. All in all, I support the addition of fake ID's. On the other hand, there are a million complex issues that surround implementation of an idea like this that would need to be worked out in order to prevent causing more harm than good. Edited May 9 by Zion Willard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBO Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 was about to make a similar suggestion myself. glad to see others have the same sort of ideas and see how it would be good for RP. +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
