Wolfy_ Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 It's a public place where you'd expect a TONNE of foot traffic due to tourism. Also, a lot of muggers just stroll to the end of the pier and mug anyone who is fishing because they are defenceless - it doesn't make sense that you could rob someone in such a high traffic area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpalak Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Yes, from other side, many new players looking for job are going there for fishing and it's not nice when someone robs you when you are new guy.. I see it happens a lot, they tell them what to do, /up /down and just /mug and ran off.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pegorino Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 It’s never happened to me but I just carry on and fish and don’t get involved and keep myself to my self :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighJack Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 I agree on this. I’d hope all job places must be NCZ. However, same rules applies. If a person runs to NCZ during fight/conflict with other people, the rule of NCZ will not work on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoewUH Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 -1 to this. The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life. The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players. This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life. - NoewUH 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighJack Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, NoewUH said: -1 to this. The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life. The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players. This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life. - NoewUH Like an hourly robbery at broad daylight? Not giving a chance especially to new players to enjoy their stay in the server by working and earning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateX Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, NoewUH said: -1 to this. The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life. The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players. This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life. - NoewUH Agree with NoewUH here. If you want people to stop robbing you at the pier, call the police. Because when I personally go there to see if something illegal is happening there, I get screamed at and told to mind my own business and people always tell me ''Don't you have other stuff to worry about instead of patrolling the pier?''. Overall do not agree with making the pier an NCZ because as NoewUH said, it's a perfect place for criminals to rob people. Ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoewUH Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, HighJack said: Like an hourly robbery at broad daylight? Not giving a chance especially to new players to enjoy their stay in the server by working and earning? Yes. If civilians are choosing not to spend their money on legal weapons and using the police provided assistance, robbing should be a factor to play. Why do you think people avoid working low-income jobs in places like lower wealth Detroit and LA? If you don't want to get robbed as easy, though making less money, work jobs like trucking, postal, and garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfy_ Posted May 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Thanks to everyone who has posted their opinions so far. I think the biggest point of contention is whether the pier is somewhere people would conduct robberies in real life. Here's what I found: According to LAPD crime maps, crime doesn't occur on the pier - rather in the areas surrounding it. [0] The pier gets incredibly busy during peak times, (Saturday at 3pm). [1] The pier has CCTV which you can watch online. [3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Thought crowded touristy areas are the best places to rob people, that's easy pickpocket territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaJoe Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Totally agree as long as NCZ includes no parking, sicne parking over there is also a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spergburger Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Agree with @Dashingly the pier is the perfect place if you're pickpocketing people, but since you can't do that in game they have to do full on robberies. In broad daylight it's kinda iffy rp, but from what I've heard IRL at night when it's not crowded you want to stay the fuck away from the pier and any other touristy areas since that's where all the crack heads and homeless people go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky-Chan Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Im generally against NCZ's as a whole, as they provide a baby-sitting zone for people to sit and pat themselves on the back in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateX Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Ducky-Chan said: Im generally against NCZ's as a whole, as they provide a baby-sitting zone for people to sit and pat themselves on the back in. So you think that robbing people at the PD, stealing cars from the PD parking lot which has cameras on it is a smart idea? Or starting a shootout at the MD? Or robbing people INSIDE the bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky-Chan Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I have no issue with the NCZ at PD, that one obviously makes sense. But all the rest of them? MD, DMV, Bank etc. I dont agree with those. @nateX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateX Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 4:40 PM, Ducky-Chan said: I have no issue with the NCZ at PD, that one obviously makes sense. But all the rest of them? MD, DMV, Bank etc. I dont agree with those. @nateX Have you ever seen someone get robbed at the hospital? Or at the DMV? Or in a bank where security is? Never heard of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky-Chan Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 25/5/2018 at 11:32 PM, nateX said: Have you ever seen someone get robbed at the hospital? Or at the DMV? Or in a bank where security is? Never heard of that. I've personally seen a group of angry bikers storm a hospital to fuck up someone they despised, yes I have seen that. And banks? Judging from the news broadcasts I've seen it does tend to happen, maybe not as often as roadside robberies but I'd justify it. As for the DMV, that specific zone refers to the DMV Parking lot, which at the moment doesnt really protect players, just their cars. Yes, I stand by what I said earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david fibonacci Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Probably saw angry bikers in sons of anarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...