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Make the End of the Pier a NCZ

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It's a public place where you'd expect a TONNE of foot traffic due to tourism. Also, a lot of muggers just stroll to the end of the pier and mug anyone who is fishing because they are defenceless - it doesn't make sense that you could rob someone in such a high traffic area. 

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Yes, from other side, many new players looking for job are going there for fishing and it's not nice when someone robs you when you are new guy..

I see it happens a lot, they tell them what to do, /up /down and just /mug and ran off....

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I agree on this. I’d hope all job places must be NCZ. However, same rules applies. If a person runs to NCZ during fight/conflict with other people, the rule of NCZ will not work on them. 

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-1 to this.

The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life.

The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players.

This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life.

- NoewUH

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2 hours ago, NoewUH said:

-1 to this.

The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life.

The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players.

This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life.

- NoewUH

Like an hourly robbery at broad daylight? Not giving a chance especially to new players to enjoy their stay in the server by working and earning? 

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3 hours ago, NoewUH said:

-1 to this.

The point of an NCZ is to remove the possibility of crime within an area which would make no sense to do so in real life.

The PIER is a perfect place to allow criminals to rob players.

This is a commonplace which you would see crime in real life.

- NoewUH

Agree with NoewUH here. If you want people to stop robbing you at the pier, call the police. Because when I personally go there to see if something illegal is happening there, I get screamed at and told to mind my own business and people always tell me ''Don't you have other stuff to worry about instead of patrolling the pier?''. Overall do not agree with making the pier an NCZ because as NoewUH said, it's a perfect place for criminals to rob people. Ever

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8 hours ago, HighJack said:

Like an hourly robbery at broad daylight? Not giving a chance especially to new players to enjoy their stay in the server by working and earning? 

Yes.

If civilians are choosing not to spend their money on legal weapons and using the police provided assistance, robbing should be a factor to play.

Why do you think people avoid working low-income jobs in places like lower wealth Detroit and LA?

If you don't want to get robbed as easy, though making less money, work jobs like trucking, postal, and garbage.

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Thanks to everyone who has posted their opinions so far. :14_relaxed:

I think the biggest point of contention is whether the pier is somewhere people would conduct robberies in real life. Here's what I found:

 

According to LAPD crime maps, crime doesn't occur on the pier - rather in the areas surrounding it. [0]

The pier gets incredibly busy during peak times, (Saturday at 3pm). [1]

The pier has CCTV which you can watch online. [3]

 

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Agree with @Dashingly the pier is the perfect place if you're pickpocketing people, but since you can't do that in game they have to do full on robberies. In broad daylight it's kinda iffy rp, but from what I've heard IRL at night when it's not crowded you want to stay the fuck away from the pier and any other touristy areas since that's where all the crack heads and homeless people go. 

 

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8 hours ago, Ducky-Chan said:

Im generally against NCZ's as a whole, as they provide a baby-sitting zone for people to sit and pat themselves on the back in.

So you think that robbing people at the PD, stealing cars from the PD parking lot which has cameras on it is a smart idea? Or starting a shootout at the MD? Or robbing people INSIDE the bank?

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