Talk about suspensions on the server after the /changed amount/ also stuff about your "stufF" that gets taken.

[Trevor Zelias]

So I'd like for people to talk about suspension after the new update with it being 6 and 12 hours and so on.

I feel still that "Reckless operation of a road vehicle" 20 min jail (without any VIP) and get suspended for 6 hours. Because you chose to be nice to RP with people on the RP server. And yet get 6 hours suspended. I feel as the server don't want people to either RP their crimes or make any effort of roleplaying and just accept the fine, jail for 20-30 min. and yet get suspended for 6 hours trucker and car license? What sense does it make, It really do add a reason why people exit with a gun and just shoot the PD/SD officer with minimal RP since you already get 6 hour suspended why not just shoot and have a chance to get away.

 

I really do think the charges should be looked at OOCly and the server should take a stand as it is clearly making the server lose pop with these things. I know it used to be 24 hours and so on. But more efforts need to be done I personally think.

 

And don't come and say "its IC that and IC this." As it was not changed since 2017 and took the server almost 10 years to get it fixed to where it is now. It is more of an OOC thing and making the server survive as no other server on either Rage and FiveM has suspension for fucking 6 hours for a 20 min charge ingame. People don't want to wait OOCly 6 hours to be able to grab their car from impound. I've even seen people crash their cars to mors to not wait 6 hours to get their cars.

 

Adding something like the suspension gets on after youre out of prison like 20 min + 1 hour fine. but 25% of your real life day is just not healthy for Eclipse at all.

 

 

 

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Since the new update with impound being automatic, where is the automatic thing where you can take your stuff from locker. Maybe its time to add something like that as No SD is ever at Paleto and SD take stuff there to be an ass. When you call them you get charged with "missue of dispatch" as the server after 10 years have not added a "non emergency call". Same goes to Mission Row, hardly any PD there early in morning. and even when server is 150 players at most active time no pd around ever.

 

DOC is slowly dying as well, in morning only salary farmers are there and late ingame they arent on duty.

[alexalex303]

At what point do we become GTA Online with no repercussions for being careless? 

[Ash]

There's no pleasing some people

[SquirtleSquad]

5 hours ago, Trevor Zelias said:

I feel still that "Reckless operation of a road vehicle" 20 min jail (without any VIP) and get suspended for 6 hours. Because you chose to be nice to RP with people on the RP server. And yet get 6 hours suspended.

Fun fact, you can still drive with a suspended license. You're just subject to a longer suspension IF you get caught. This has already been brought down from 48 hours to 24 hours, to now variable depending on the charge. It's a pretty nice compromise compared to what it was before. If you can't handle the IC repercussions of your IC actions to commit IC crimes, perhaps take some time to try a legal character!

 

5 hours ago, Trevor Zelias said:

I feel as the server don't want people to either RP their crimes or make any effort of roleplaying and just accept the fine, jail for 20-30 min. and yet get suspended for 6 hours trucker and car license?

The results of them "RP their crimes" is a license suspension following jail time. In real life you'd serve a sentence depending on the charge AND your license would be gone permanently depending on the charge. Some charges require you to wait years, and then have to go through the DMV taking the test, doing courses and such. 

However, to play devil's advocate, how about something where when you are released, you head to the DMV, have to spend the money for the DMV test, and you need to re-do it again. Only catch is, if you speed, you fail immediately. Deviate off the markers at all, fail. Complete the DMV, and you get a one time 50% reduction for your current suspension level (to negate people spamming it to take 12 hours down to 30 minutes).

[Shining0103]

[Trevor Zelias]

39 minutes ago, SquirtleSquad said:

The results of them "RP their crimes" is a license suspension following jail time. In real life you'd serve a sentence depending on the charge AND your license would be gone permanently depending on the charge. Some charges require you to wait years, and then have to go through the DMV taking the test, doing courses and such. 

This makes no sense? Because Admins have clearly stated and said "Oh real-life don't matter in-game. So quite unsure as you're an Admin saying an example in real life. Just not sure how Eclipse really wants their own server to be as of lately with these things

 

41 minutes ago, SquirtleSquad said:

Fun fact, you can still drive with a suspended license. You're just subject to a longer suspension IF you get caught. This has already been brought down from 48 hours to 24 hours, to now variable depending on the charge. It's a pretty nice compromise compared to what it was before. If you can't handle the IC repercussions of your IC actions to commit IC crimes, perhaps take some time to try a legal character!

Yeah, But typically the players who don't spend $500 (ngl i have) Don't have the access to 5-10+ cars laying around if not given by other plays which could be a grey area for RWT. Same goes with RWT it self. It is hard for Casual Andy to get cars that are good with speed and so on. And I have been legal on the old XP system which was slower then it is now or was. 600k xp. And just the fact you say "its 24 hours". It's not really the charge im talking about. I'm talking about the 20 min jail, 12 min if you have DVIP. And you get suspended for 6 hours? Once again "real life that real life this". You STAFF say that we should not compare the server to IRL situations and such.

 

45 minutes ago, SquirtleSquad said:

However, to play devil's advocate, how about something where when you are released, you head to the DMV, have to spend the money for the DMV test, and you need to re-do it again. Only catch is, if you speed, you fail immediately. Deviate off the markers at all, fail. Complete the DMV, and you get a one time 50% reduction for your current suspension level (to negate people spamming it to take 12 hours down to 30 minutes).

Not going to lie, I would love this system, even maybe 75% as that would be 3 hours you would lose. And let's say for an example it is 75% of WHATEVER time you have left. Let's say you have 10 hours left just 75% of that. If you get 2 hour jail and do the DMV test you would still have 2,5 hours of suspension on it. Which would be a cool system. And would make use of the system in place on the server with DMV test, as I have had my license since 2017 on my char and dont even know if its changed or if anything is new there. 

 

 

And adding that demerits maybe remove your license would be easily added onto ECRP when you get total of 3 or 4. Making it more used then it is currently.

[Eliza]

Just drive anyways or be passenger princess, or ride a bike

[SquirtleSquad]

39 minutes ago, Trevor Zelias said:

Yeah, But typically the players who don't spend $500 (ngl i have) Don't have the access to 5-10+ cars laying around if not given by other plays which could be a grey area for RWT. Same goes with RWT it self. It is hard for Casual Andy to get cars that are good with speed and so on. And I have been legal on the old XP system which was slower then it is now or was. 600k xp. And just the fact you say "its 24 hours". It's not really the charge im talking about. I'm talking about the 20 min jail, 12 min if you have DVIP. And you get suspended for 6 hours? Once again "real life that real life this". You STAFF say that we should not compare the server to IRL situations and such.

It's not difficult to purchase vehicles. There are a ton of crims who've put in the hard work to get where they are. There's no instant gratification on this server. I also have no idea what the "old XP system" has to do with this conversation. The criminal activity XP system makes the rewards better, but the passive XP you gain has no relevancy. IC actions have IC consequences. You don't want those, then the crim life isn't for you. Crims are a "High Risk" for a "High Reward" side of ways to play on the server. You're gunna get beat from time to time. It sucks, but many of us have been there, many of us have gotten away, its the nature of the game. You're basically asking for no repercussions following your jail sentence after this was JUST dropped down further. Again, as has been said, nothing is stopping you from continuing to drive. Go steal a car, you're a crim anyway, just keep doing crim stuff. It's roleplay.

I'm ignoring all the "you staff" comments about real life, when you guys call for people RPing repercussions.

43 minutes ago, Trevor Zelias said:

Not going to lie, I would love this system, even maybe 75% as that would be 3 hours you would lose. And let's say for an example it is 75% of WHATEVER time you have left. Let's say you have 10 hours left just 75% of that. If you get 2 hour jail and do the DMV test you would still have 2,5 hours of suspension on it. Which would be a cool system. And would make use of the system in place on the server with DMV test, as I have had my license since 2017 on my char and dont even know if its changed or if anything is new there. 

75%? No, that just completely negates the consequences. 50% I feel would be fair. That's 6 hours down to 3 for spending $500 and 10-15 minutes to re-take the test. Also, your math is wrong. 2 hours of jail, you have 10 hours of license suspension would leave you with 8 hours remaining on your suspension. 75% would bring this down to 2 hours. Basically can just do your 2 hours, log off for 2 hours to eat dinner, spend time with family and friends, and then hop back on and be fine. There should be further repercussions to your actions. If you've been playing since 2017, then you know for a fact that consequences for your criminal actions are WAY relaxed now.

[Timmy2x]

6 hours ago, Trevor Zelias said:

feel still that "Reckless operation of a road vehicle" 20 min jail (without any VIP) and get suspended for 6 hours. Because you chose to be nice to RP with people on the RP server. And yet get 6 hours suspended. I feel as the server don't want people to either RP their crimes or make any effort of roleplaying and just accept the fine, jail for 20-30 min.

I don't see what you're upset about here? If you're a TRUE crim a suspended license isn't going to stop you from still driving around (at least it doesn't for me). Plus 6 & or 12 hr license suspensions blow 24 hr suspensions way out of the water. Simply put if you can't face the time don't do the crime.

 

6 hours ago, Trevor Zelias said:

I really do think the charges should be looked at OOCly and the server should take a stand as it is clearly making the server lose pop with these things.

I promise you server pop issues have nothing to do with license suspensions LOL there's a way bigger picture behind that.

[Demonmit1]

TL;DR - you wanna play a gangster so bad but don't want the actual IC repercussions of it
Sums up the core of the complaint here. this whole argument of being priced out of the market is entirely a bad faith argument, and comes from a place of lazy entitlement. there is a MASSIVE amount of cars available under 100k cost, and lots of them are quite capable. mid tier priced cars are some of the most capable vehicles in the server, the buffalo STX, Kamacho, D5, Vigero ZX are all $350,000 to $400,000 and are the most cost effective vehicles on the server. easily achievable with limited playtime over a week.

Edited September 11, 2025 by Demonmit1

[Ritchie Stones]

your expectations, dont meet our requirements, how about that ? 

-you want the real experience at 0 cost
-it makes sense to you to shoot cops over losing a licence temporarly 
-recklessness with no repercussions
-Reckless driving to you seems like real RP ?

and then you come on here calling people like sd dumb fucks,
this may sound harsh but your a weak person. maybe your just not good of a player,
and need to work your mind around how you going to take certain actions to minimize getting caught in the act.
get better and maybe more nice to, maybe you will be more successful and less resentful

[Manic_Xi]

The licence suspension used to be 3 days when I started the server.

To be fair the licence suspension being changed from 24 to 12 I think was a poor choice.

I used to roll around running plates and if a felony was charged less than 24 hours ago pull that person over normally leading a chase. Since this change came in nothing.

 

I can assure you mate no one in SD wants your radio and mask. Might be a better idea next time to not insult an entire faction OOCLY on forms like this next time you make a "suggestion". it's a bad look. 

Edited September 12, 2025 by Manic_Xi

[astrx]

Personally I think 24 hours was fine. Fuck around find out kind of thing. Now it is 12 hours for felony charges and 6 hours for misdemeanours. If this isn't enough for you, I don't know what will be. 

[GodDammitKopi]

I just drive any way.

[Ash]

Scrapyard car
Taxi/Citybee
Bicycle
Be a passenger princess
Pay a new player to drive you around
Just drive anyway
If you're high enough ranking in a gang, get a prospect to drive you around

Plenty of options for 6-12 hours (effectively 1 play session)

[GodDammitKopi]

You could get @Ash to buy you a car very generous guy.

[laraaxjo]

I just joined the server recently but I already dont agree with this!

 

If you break laws, you must have repercussions - otherwise everyone will be breaking them and the server would be chaos!

[crystianaxo]

If you don't want to lose your license then don't participate in activities that could cause you to lose your license or have your car impounded. Drive the speed limit and don't evade. Don't participate in criminal activities that are likely to get you pulled over and feeling like you have to evade because you have gun/drugs/etc on you. Take the loss on your guns/drugs/etc if your license is that important to you.

If your biggest complaint is that you have to be without a license and/or your car for 6-12 hours, you are aware evading is optional, right?

Or, you know, just... successfully evade. No arrest, no suspension, no impound. Problem solved.

[Ritchie Stones]

10 hours ago, Ash said:

Scrapyard car
Taxi/Citybee
Bicycle
Be a passenger princess
Pay a new player to drive you around
Just drive anyway
If you're high enough ranking in a gang, get a prospect to drive you around

Plenty of options for 6-12 hours (effectively 1 play session)

You know. I think if taxi get just a bit cheaper people might use it more often. I do fairly often use a taxi. 

[Dapph]

going outside and doing something other than ecrp is also an option during those 6 hours. This feels like the most chronically online complaint.