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Good thoughts, obviously needs a few tweaks but tbf , a system which allows for 2 willing parties would resolve so many time wasting reports, in game arguments and constant repetive meaninluss reports where outcomes vary. This would then elivitae staff workload and would in turn have a positive effect on the server. All legal factions, are asked each week to state their war declarations, if 2 factions decide to go to war with one another then war is declared. One week later, they are asked again. would you like to continue the war, and so on and so on, this allows for: the ability to shoot a hella lot less reports improved priritizeing of staff workload clean, consistent gunfights impacts on rp such as fake triads, fake zeta being open to kos through gang affiliation by attire, would force people to not stand outside shops all day, make citizens think twice about hanging with gangsters, make mechanics who are also gangsters think again about standing outside fixing cars all day. Overall +1 for the suggestion however would need some minor and major tweak, also, best not to leave the decisjion to the admin and should be handled more by the player base.

I'm starting to see what people mean by "RP scenarios". As I understood the server was continuous RP, but that is not always the case. You have long last relationship RP, and you have very very short (nobody seems to remember) RP, which yes, once is complete, is not longer relevant or remembered.

i have no doubt you promote better and more realsitc rp, was some of the reason it was aimed at you. You are right, it should be decided by the players themselves, no one is disbuting that. Ive been gaming for a while so i get where you are coming from, i think my original wording sounded more restrictive than was required. Yeah many people do only work for their faction and nothing else, this of course is aimed at players who are in an RP situation for allowing this however choose not to. I am ofcourse not suggesiong that anyone should focibly change the RP decisons of others. yeah, i mean , i tried at least, this suggestion from me is definently wrong as others have pointed out, as this is unlikly to change in the future, i just fear that because it may be viewed as unlikly, many deem this as we should not try.

i really realy do not think you understand my suggestion and i honestly cannot think of any other ways to make myself any more clear without repeating myself.

yeah this is true to be fair. For my suggestion to be even remotly become a reality many other aspects and levels of RP would have to be dramatically improved. Also, since making this suggestion i have on 4 seperate occasions , parked my car then waled roughly 1.5 miles, never been robbed. normally takes me around 15 minutes.

neat, yeah agreed something like that may tip the balance maybe. nice input

It's not just a point of just logging out , all I'm saying is that people should be encouraged to put a slight bit more effort in if they have the time for it, that's all. And ofc I won't be kicking peeps from the rebels just for logging off in a random spot, with the amount of bugs, code 0, frustration, rage quits, general desync and other problems, and as other have pointed out it's a very hard thing to consider enforcing. But if they constantly log off right aroundfrom NCZ, leaving car safe and secure, then after a while yeah, I'd be having a word with them. You have to see, that I don't like leaving cars in no crime zone when I log for instance. If you park it normally somewhere near a house (even if you just RP renting a garage)) then your car may provide RP for others looking to boost cars when you are offline. A bit of thought by me, may increase your RP. I think this is more what I'm getting at tbf.

Yeah for sure. I'll should edit my post to now include "better" and the the "policy" in my original suggestion. Like I say, just a bit of a culture change in the way it's done is all Cheers

Just a nudge in the right direction "if I see you constantly logging off in and around LSC then you will be getting a word" - similar to what I say to the Rebels. If I see you logging off all the time at bank or the Zeta store then your going to be getting kicked for lazy RP, of course there are times this is unavoidable, but this should not the standard". Cheers for the input mate.

Yeah for sure going out of sight is a lot better and I'm sure it's in the New Player Guides somewhere. I feel like a dick if I log off right in front of other people (of course, not if I have IRL things to do, just in case someone argues that).

+1 great idea. However I really doubt it will ever be a thing, unfortunately.

true yeah quite a few people do live out in the stick, fair point. and aimed at factions as they are often quite visable ooc and IC, and often those who help to run and operate any faction have the attention of their members, i just ask them to nudge their members to take up such activities and to remember this is an RP server, going home COULD ((COULD, IM NOT FORCING THIS)) be something to do, try out, whatever. this is in now way a direct Rule or Policy in the strictest of terms.

I think you are in the minority of people who own a home and drive their to park up as a way of logging off. In my experiance the vast dont, i only ask that those who have their members ears nudge their members to take more care and thought into these things.

Would just moving away from your job and overall putting more effort into logging off be sufficient. Driving home might be too much as you stated. Would you argue that the current places where people decide to log off are sufficient enough?

Yeah this is a valid point. Of course not everyone has a property. For that I would recommend maybe RP a favourite spot under a bridge or somewhere which can become your temporary homes. Possibly somewhere with litter and create little stories for the trash, like "oh I remember when I got that bottle of whisky" etc etc. Thanks for the input my man.

Yes ofc. This suggestion is not about restricting a players ability to leave the game. I'll reword my suggestion as the same argument by many posts is just saying the same thing. Cheers.

This is a totally valid point but in no way is a counter argument to what I suggest. I don't know if you read the posts through the thread but this does not impact the suggestion. Tbf I think I may need to reword what I have said. I'll think of a different way to explain it. Cheers

Adding to the last post I just made. This is how far it could go, this poster wants NCZ around jobs now, and the foundary, this is 100% not a cops v robbers server but powergaming through NCZ is not a good route to take. But yeah mate people rob you guys when you leave new player status cause servouslt, there is not much for criminals to do. They are just waiting to rob you of everything you own bro.

Huge -1 from me. I'm still struggling to understand why the current NCZ are in place as they already massively hinder the server, RP and immersion in almost everyway. Adding even one more is a massive massive mistake. NCZ at impound, means can never ever have any RP with Crims there, same with bank and any other NCZ . NCZ are the attempts to create realism through very very unrealistic means. They all need to go asap for more RP to become available.

Yeah, you are a criminal that has been shot and don't want to go to the hospital. That is literally the RP problem with it.

Sorry forgot to mention that not driving home for dear of being robbed is not a reason to not go home and log off . The crime is an IC issue, ring a friend for an escort, ask if there is anyone you can walk home with. Ensure you stay within lit streets and take a safe way home. It's not a reason to be like "nah I NEVER log off at home I'm case I get robbed", I think we are discussing different things tbf

True, priorities must be set, having gamed for like 23 years I get what you mean. So just prioritize the logging process more. I do many thing on the server I don't need to do but I do a lot of things I know other people will get RP out of. I don't always drive home, sometimes I walk home, many times "new players" pull up and offer me a ride home. Imo, even that little thing, for a "new player"could be the added immersion to help the server retain more players. This is what I prioritize.

Yeah for sure. I get that. If you got to go you got to go. It's just amazing the amount of people that seem to make it to the parking garage, just as they have to go. Viewing several comments throughout this thread yeah I'm starting to believe the very notion of asking people to help collective set new and better RP trends on the server is asking too much. However, I will continue to try, but you may actually be right tbf.

Yeah pretty much this. (If you have time) just out a bit more effort into your RP,allow more time for the logging off process and make sure not to vanish in the NCZ's, hotspots, parking lots etc. And I asked those withing positions of authority as, imo, those leaders who have great numbers under them, hold the responsibility to lift the level of RP, for all of us.

It is worrying how many people consider what I wrote an attempt to control someone real life. This is in no what what I am suggesting. I fear now any further attempts by myself such as this would result in the same misguided replies and arguments and it is this level of RP that will result in the RP level of eclipse following its current trajectory, whatever you believe that to be. Personally, I just leave 10 minutes before my game session (Obviously if IRL allows me) and I go home move away from other players. Worrying, very worrying.