Aldari

JAX THOPRE AND ASHLEY GREY

The Lost Motorcycle Club is an outlaw motorcycle club that has been operating since 1964 after the club was founded by eight U.S. Marines in Hanoi, North Vietnam who named the club 'The Lost' in honour of their fallen friends. The Lost MC had since arrived in Blaine County in pursuit of further riches, but have been met with resistance and trouble - requiring the chapter to be rebuilt almost from the ground up following its demise. The Lost MC has primarily been based within Alderney, Liberty City, for most of its history. In Liberty City the Lost found troubles and tribulation around every corner, but more recently the club had got heavily involved in the drug business against the Angels of Death MC and Triads. Following the destruction of the Angels of Death MC's club and the theft of their heroin the Lost struggled to sell off the heroin, being setup by the LCPD, only to try to sell it to the Triads that were not too happy the club had stolen it from the Angels of Death MC in the first place, resulting in a shoot-out and the arrest of the then club president Billy Grey. It was at this point the club took a turn and under the leadership of the new President, Johnny Klebitz, the club tried to stay afloat. Getting involved with corrupt politicians, more gangs and law enforcement the club would eventually manage to break into Alderney State Correctional Facility and kill the former President, Billy Grey, who planned on entering the witness protection program by snitching on club members, particularly Johnny Klebitz. In the wake of the recent wars the club and President decided to burn down their own Liberty City Chapter clubhouse, with some of them moving to Blaine County. The status of the LC chapter is currently unknown, but some stayed behind. In Blaine Country the Lost found short-lived success, managing to get a foot on the weapons trafficking and drug trafficking markets, but with increased success came increased attention. This would come to a head when a rival trafficking enterprise attacked the Lost MC hangout, killing the President, destroying the hangout and wiping out most members. Following the destruction of the Blaine Country Chapter two remaining members, Jax Thorpe and Ashley Grey, sought to rebuild from the ground up. Based out of Stab City, the two are slowly rebuilding the club and attempting to re-establish the chapter's prominence in Blaine County on top of the ashes of old. REBUILD THE CLUBHOUSE RE-ESTABLISH A PRESENCE IN STAB CITY ESTABLISH MARKET CONNECTIONS AND CONTACTS FIND OUT WHO DESTROYED THE PREVIOUS BLAINE COUNTY CHAPTER MOVE INTO UNDERGROUND CAGE FIGHTING AND GAMBLING MOVE INTO GUNS FOR HIRE AND CONTRACT/HITMAN MARKET AVOID POLICE ATTENTION AND THE ATTENTION OF FEDERAL AGENCIES NATIONAL PRESIDENT: The national president is the leader of the Lost MC collectively. The job of the national president is to oversee all the MC chapters, manage chapter disputes and intervene when required. The national president has the ability to close and open chapters, revoke patches and end wars. CHURCH: Consists of the President, Vice-President, Secretary, Treasurer, Road Captain and SGT at Arms. Together Church makes decisions that affect the entire club, lays down laws, vote on promtions/removals, votes on our relationship with other groups and holds trials of members. Decisions are made by vote, requiring 1/2 of the church to be in favour to pass. Church can only sit if the President or Vice-President is present. CHAPLAIN: Provides counselling and support to club members. This is not a rank, but a role that can be assigned to anyone. President: Leads a Lost MC chapter. Oversees and directs the club, working closely with the Vice-President on anything that requires the President's attention. Focuses more on long-term planning and operations. Vice-President: Works directly with the Church members to oversee day-to-day operations, making sure everybody is doing their jobs and relaying more important information to the President. Secretary: Represents the Vice-President and President to other organisations, oversees recruitment and the Treasurer. SGT at Arms: Manages the soldiers of the club, oversees the traffacking operations, carries out club business that is of an illegal nature. TREASURER: Manages the clubs books, accounts and collects club dues from members. Road Captain: Manages club vehicles, oversees convoys, handles traffic police. Lieutenant: Works closely with the SGT at Arms to oversee the club soldiers, supervises soldiers and can lead situations on behald of the SGT at Arms Tail Gunner: Rides at the back of convoys to assist the Read Captain during convoys Enforcer: Enforces discipline among the members and works with Lieutenant on ensuring jobs are accomplished swiftly. Member: A full patched member of the club. Enjoys the priviledges and rights of being part of the club and once a member cannot leave without either dying, being removed or requesting that the Church let them leave. Tattooed in. Prospect: A potential member of the club that has been sponsored by a full member to join the Lost. Enjoys no priviledges, has no rights. Handaround: A non-member of the club that may potentially be on their way to prospect. Is expected to be quiet, do as they're told and demonstrate their worth. MUST NOT HAVE THE ((NEW PLAYER)) TAG | New players are always welcome to hang around with us, and we will RP with you, however to join we would like you to explore the server and become familiar with its intricacies before joining a faction. You are free to find us in game and RP with us until that time comes, we always welcome new players the best we can. MUST HAVE HAD NO ADMIN PUNISHMENTS FOR 60 DAYS AND BE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE COMMUNITY | All people joining must be admin punishment free for 60 days, the only exception being is if you're a new player who hasn't been on the server for two months. All members must be in good standing with the community, people with excessive punishments or that attract drama may be turned away. MUST HAVE A GOOD ATTITUDE, BE WILLING TO LOSE AND KEEP THINGS IC AT ALL TIMES | We're an RP faction first and foremost, which includes losing fights and being arrested. If you're not able to interact with others in a situation where you're not always on top then this faction may not be for you. Example of what we do not want: You are carrying an illegal weapon and are suddenly picked up by the police and arrested. You are unsure how they knew about your gun and suspect metagaming, so instead of continuing the RP and using /report you instead resort to an OOC argument and move your attention away from RP'ing your arrest appropriately to protesting the current RP situation. Example of what we do not want: You have been attacked by another gang and feel like a rule was broken. Instead of remaining IC and using /report, you instead inform the rival faction in /b that they broke rules and you're going to get them banned. Example of what we do not want: You feel a player broke a rule and you plan on reporting them, but instead of RP'ing out the current situation, remaining in-character and then informing them via /pm once the RP is concluded that you will be reporting them you immediately enter /b with "reported" or "save POV" or "see you on the forums". Example of what we do not want: You are unhappy with losing an RP situation, but instead of remaining In-character you clearly become OOC'ly angry via voip, begin reacting in an unnatural way for your character, putting less effort into RP and using euphemisms to refer to OOC rules and rulebreaks. For example a player breaks fear-rp and instead of reacting naturally to the situation you euphemistically refer to the fear-rp rule by shouting at the player via voip that they should "value their life bro". A player offers begins to agitate you in a NCZ and you wish to fight them, but instead of finding a natural way of reaching your desired outcome you instead say "meet me accross the street", euphemistically referring to the NCZ restriction. ZERO TOLERANCE ON DRAMA AND UNNECESSARY OOC | As part of our attempt to be a RP heavy faction with a focus on remaining in-character we will not tolerate unneeded OOC usage (such as entering /b in a fight or when being arrested) or drama, if you're unable to react maturely to situations then this faction may not be for you. Example of what we do not want: You are engaged in a fight and win. One of the players you killed begins to accuse you of Deathmatching in /b, instead of remaining in-character and ignoring the misuse of /b you decide to engage in OOC hostility and taunt the player for getting 'clapped'. Example of what we do not want: You are standing at the bank and begin having a conversation with another player in /b. MUST REMAIN FRIENDLY AND RESPECTFUL WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SERVER ON A PUBLIC OOC LEVEL | This is a community faction and everybody is welcome to RP with us, we will not tolerate people slandering other factions, staff or fellow community members. We're here to give others a good time and have a good time in the process. Example of what we do not want: You are unhappy with another factions RP and instead of reaching out to that factions' leadership or faction maangement you begin to call out the faction in #general or complain openly about how you feel about the faction. Example of what we do not want: You are unhappy with another members RP and instead of looking for IC resolutions you attempt to solve the situation OOC'ly or complain to faction leadership about the IC situation. Example of what we do not want: You are injured and a medic arrives to assist you. Instead of engaging with the medic and communicating with them you only give the bare minimum of /me's and /do's, with no voip RP so that you can be revived and move on. DO NOT EXPECT MUCH ACTION RP AND MUST REMAIN CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS DURING ACTION RP | This faction attempts to put RP first, before gunplay, which means we do not roam around looking for people to fight or rob, fights and robberies happen as a consequence of RP, they are not the subject of RP. We spend a lot of time RP'ing among ourselves and for our characters, if you're only looking to have heavy weapons and fights then this faction may not be for you. When we do get involved in action RP we expect you to remain courteous to the players we're fighting and not be disproportionately excessive with your RP. Example of what we do not want: As a member of the MC you use your access to heavy weaponry and manpower to drive around looking for people to fight, robbing everybody in sight. Example of what we do not want: A firefight breaks out and The Lost MC wins the fight, instead of attending to the wounded and leaving before cops arrive you decide to stay and chop all of the rival factions vehicle and loot all their corpses. Example of what we do not want: You enter a drug lab and a player points a gun at you and your members, but swiftly surrenders. Instead of punishing the player appropriately, RP'ing with them and developing the situation you decide to rob the player of everything they have, shave their hair and then steal their vehicle before leaving. Example of what we do not want: A member of the MC is being arrested by the police, so you gather a bunch of people and orchestrate an ambush, attempting to kill all the cops involved. MUST RP AN APPROPRIATE CHARACTER AS A MEMBER OF THE LOST | We expect you to portray a realistic MC character, we understand everybody's ability to act varies, however we expect your characters image, backstory and actions to reflect your MC lifestyle. MCs are a lifestyle, as such we will not allow others to join if they do not portray that they live and breathe the lifestyle of MCs. We understand that building up your character can take time, so do not worry if you do not know what to do at first. Example of what we do not want: You have previously been a member of multiple street gangs, with no interest or association with MCs or motorcycles. The faction disbands and in an attempt to find another gang you try to join the Lost MC without first building up a character arc that makes sense for you to join the MC. Example of what we do not want: You have joined the MC and looking for a new vehicle, but instead of sticking to choppers you buy a Hakuchou Drag, as you would prefer to go fast rather than portray an MC character . Example of what we do not want: You happily associate and act friendly with rival factions or police officers, who you should otherwise avoid or outright despise. Example of what we do not want: You RP a perfect character that has no flaws, failing to develop your characters arc and react to the world accordingly. Example of what we do not want: You are more focused on the acquisition of a large amount of assets and cash. As a member of an MC you're not expected to be rich, and we would rather you invested your resources back into RP, rather than being concerned with acquiring expensive vehicles, houses and assets. Example of what we do not want: You treat your character as a reactive personality rather than proactive, unless you're reacting to a situation your character stands like a wood post. We expect people to put life into their characters and immerse themselves in the world, giving their characters personality traits, preferences, likes and dislikes, habits and flaws. Make sure you have read the OOC expectations and then find us in game IC'ly. At which point we will interact with you and see if you fit in our faction, both OOC'ly and as an IC character. Goodluck. Joining is neither easy or quick, the faction does not look to be large, as such the process to becoming a full member can take over a month. This is to make sure you truly wish to be part of the faction and that the type of roleplay is for you, as once you're a full member it will profoundly effect your character.

Quickly turned into empty accusations of 'sinister operations' and conspiracies. Archived.

Unarchived per request.

@Durand The Philosopher Impressive conclusion, given that it hasn't been used in practice yet.

The rule is vague by design, to avoid ruleplay. We don't want to outline exact places people can rob others or create borders and by virtue 'robbery zones'. The purpose of the rule is to make robberies more engaging and more realistic and like all rules precedents will arise and staff will have discussions on what is acceptable and what is not. Creating examples or creating specific locations in which robbery can occur will result in ruleplay, where people just drive around a certain area or wait for somebody to cross an imaginary border and then instantly pounce on them. Peoples mentality to a robbery should be "Do my actions seem realistic? Does the location make sense? Would someone really get robbed here? Am I getting something I actually need or am I just robbing them for whatever loot they might have?". We don't want peoples mentalities to be "That person crossed the border, so I can just rob them now", people should be focused on their characters and their character motivations, not rulebook definitions. We also want peoples mentalities to robbery RP to be "I'm going to give this player a memorable experience" and we want robbery victims to leave thinking "that was fun". We don't want people to have the mentality of "quickly rob this person, so we can get to the next" and we don't want victims to think "oh, this again. Hurry up so I can go do something more fun". Robbery RP should take time, it shouldn't be some routine thing you're doing very often and players should leave the RP feeling like they just did something fun, not feeling like it was a speed bump on their way to better RP opportunities.

I don't think we'll ever be introducing rules that dictate the relationships gangs can make. Ultimately gang RP is an RP based on relationships and artificially limiting that restricts criminal RP in a way that is not necessary. The Zetas remain 'on top' (though I am not sure what that means, precisely) and have done for a long time, because they've managed to position themselves regularly into advantageous relationships with other gangs. There is no reason other gangs cannot do this and they themselves would be able to 'topple' the Zeta position. In short, the Zeta dominance is an IC dominance and I don't think it's fair to impose restrictions on them for being IC'ly too good at what they do, especially when other gangs are perfectly capable of becoming the dominant gang. in fact, because criminal RP is ultimately about relationships I think imposing such restrictions would make it far harder for any other gangs to possible form a large enough alliance to ever fight off larger and more powerful gangs, so I think it'd have the opposite effect of what is intended.

@Serthon Cop RP is criminal RP.

FYI guys you'll need to edit the post and remove the 'where to find us part'. This is an OOC forum, so people cant use that information IC'ly. People will just have to find you naturally in game through encounters they have with you.

Archived. Please contact Faction Management if you wish to have it unarchived in the future.

Archived, message faction management if you ever want it unarchived.

That imbalance isn't being solved if your living expenses increase more than your salary. If you end up paying more for gas and general living expenses such as food then the extra $2000 you're earning from your job isn't going to cover that. Hence the issue with raising taxes and raising the minimum wage in a city that is essentially in hyperinflation, all you're doing is driving inflation up way faster than the salary you earn. The imbalance exists, because there is no diversity in the market. The government continues to print money at enormous rates and injecting it into the economy devaluing the currency and businesses have no supplier or manufacturer options. What actually needs to happen is money needs to circulate more, and the number of business suppliers needs to increase - your union won't mean anything if the businesses don't have any other suppliers to negotiate with. You could protest and refuse to shop at stores until you're blue in the face, it's not like I could go to another supplier and negotiate a better deal so I can reduce the prices of my products, nor could I negotiate a better deal so I could off set the losses from the increased tax/delivery cost, so I either have to 1.) Sacrifice my finances and take a loss until I run out of money or 2.) Offset the cost to the consumer and raise produce prices - which one do you think I'll do. I don't know how long you've been in the city, but anybody who has been around long enough to remember will tell you how badly affected the economy has been from the introduction of more taxes. I remember when I bought my first house for $220,000 - it was a 3G in mirror park and I ended up buying ten of these houses over the course of a year for roughly the same price each. The government then introduced taxes, hyper inflated the economy and I ended up selling each one for $850,000 each, those same houses now sell for $1m-1.5m. The point is, your salary increasing doesn't mean diddly squat if price of living outpaces how much you can earn.

Correct. If delivery costs were raised to $3000/delivery and tax raised by 20% then I'd make a loss of $91,000 every time I sell my stock. The loss wouldn't be paid by myself though, no, it would instead have to be made up by increasing prices, which means the cost is off set to the customer - people like you. Here's an idea for you: Instead of driving up prices by imposing ill thought out taxes why not plead with your government to instead invest in technology that allows you to load and unload your deliveries much faster to make the deliveries more cost efficient!

Only this government in it's ever infinite wisdom would think that during a time where a $27,000 home now costs you $500,000 and a burger sets you back 1/3 of your welfare that the solution is to institute more regulations and taxes. Enjoy that $30/lt gas and $2000 bottle water. #TimeForElectedRepresentatives

Hello! I have not raised the pay for truckers since forever. Next to that, I would not be willing to meet with some of you guys to discuss stuff if you guys are down. I am not at all new to owning a business and will do my best to squeeze every cent out of you. You can also text me at: #444-If-You-Unionise-I-Will-Outsource-Your-Job-To-A-Mexican-227 Regards, ~ Mr. Benevolent Business Owner.

Good job.

Archived.

Hey guys, It's nice to see another motorcycle club, but be sure to keep it unique and not copy directly from other threads. Notably you've copied the same font from the LSMC faction. Make sure to give your faction a unique identify, because currently it's look far too similar, even right down to the same acronym; LSMC. If you hope to acquire handlers in the future we want to make sure we're giving handlers to factions that are providing something unique and are portraying a unique image, lets make sure you're doing that. Regards, Aldari

Nobody can answers your question, because we weren't there for the RP. There are plenty of ways police or anybody can RP'ly find out if you was doing something, or it was simply officer incompetence, which is still IC. This is an IC issue that needs to be resolved IC'ly. If you think a rule was broken then create a player report based on evidence, otherwise forward a complain to the Internal Affairs IC'ly.

Topic closed.

If you've got evidence of any abuse of power then please either make a report or reach out to a senior member of staff with evidence. The police have various ways of locating you, some which you may not be aware of depending on how long you've been o the server. Regardless, restricting how staff play the game based on the fact they're staff is an unlikely prospect and this posts seems to be less of a suggestion and more of a complaint, which there are proper channels for. Regards, Aldari

Try completely uninstalling RAGE and reinstalling it.

Date and time (provide timezone): ~14:00 UTC - 27/01/2020 Character name: Daniels Shelby Issue/bug you are reporting: When you park a vehicle at the new parking lot in Paleto it shows your vehicle as being at mors when you check in /vehiclestats Expected behavior: /vehiclestats should say your vehicle is in parking. Preferably which parking lot specifically. Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Put your vehicle in the parking lot at Paleto, then use /vehiclestats. Vehicle license plate number*: N/A

Can we get some archives for the market place, please. https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/forum/19-the-market-place/ After years of posts it's got pretty messy.

+1 I'd be in favour of this if the vending machine had a stock limit and you could modify the price. People could buy stock from general stores and fill up their vending machines.