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This actually reminds me of a situation I had on my ALT ages ago. Me and my friend got shot by some robbers. We were injured on the beach. PD showed with 1 bike. The bike saw us, turned around and never came back. Then later some other friend called for PD and MD. PD showed up with 2 cruisers, bringing my friend in the cruiser to PD and said they will come back to pick me up, so they basically left me on the beach, dying while the suspects where still not arrested or whatever. After the 2 cruisers left the robbers came back and finished me. Sometimes I kinda miss the value of the civillians life... Sometimes I just like... notice too much that people know you will just respawn at MD...

I remember when I joined Bayview (again (on my alt)) that it was mentioned they really want to see good and realistic RP so we would be a good example for gangs that want to be official... I don't really see this mindset here I have to say.

Hello, While I am sitting my time in jail I was reviewing the RP situation I had with PD... Actualy, I am slightly concerned and I was hoping to have a discussion started to maybe improve the RP. (This is OOC, so dont use this info IC) So here is whats up: My character killed a stalker. She got recorded doing that and a detective started taking care of it. We talked in theh office and got informed I was going to jail. I asked how it would go since my character is exactly 8 months pregnant now and the answer was it will be taken care off. The detective was about to get my character in the cruise to put me in jail when someone didnt agree and held the detective gunpoint as seen here: The detetcive decided to not do what he was asked and started about saying the person holding him gunpoint will get himself killed. At the end the detective got shot down and my character (that was cuffed in the cruiser) got kidnapped by that person. An friend of that person kidnapping me hopped in too and took over the wheel. After being chased for a while, my character got thrown out... All scraped up (as it would make sense RP-ing that) and also still cuffed. No PD around, so I decided to walk to DMV. There, my character got someone to bring her to PD. At PD I explained some officers and was about to talk with the detective from earlier again, but due to argunt OOC reasons I informed everyone I had to log. The people agreed and said I should continue the RP when comming back. After a solid 1.5 hours I came back online and as promised I walked to the nearest officer and asked for the detective. The detective came and I did the /do that my character was all scraped up. The detectiove didnt really bother and cuffed me. After that we were about to drive to prison when all of a sudden they asked me to step out and wait infront of MD... While being cuffed... After that we started heading to prison finally... On the highway the detective did see some weird situation and thought a shootout was about to happen. The detective reversed and the 2 cops went out and started shooting, so basically involved a hurt pregnant woman in the shootout: THEN.. I finally got in prison. I did notice somethign weird though... I know this shouldnt really care, but its just something I would like to mention: When going in jail I got mentioned I will be in there for 120 minutes and I should RP the time being in jail in a realistic way. People convert those minutes to days or months, but for my character it would mean she has to give.. birth... in jail..... As she was 8 months pregnant when heading to there... And then its hard for me to tell people afterwards I got in jail for 120 days or months... I am really into RP and really try to do it realisicly, but in my opinion this wasnt really a good experience. I am trying to figure out why this happened, but cant seem to find any answer... I hope to get some more opinions.

+1 Better RP, but I agree prices of food need to be lower then

+1 Seeing this from a realistic standpoint it doesnt make sense PD raids these without any reason. I don't really play on my criminal ALT anymore, but I can really imagine this is a complete pain in the arse if PD can just keep patrolling at drug labs. It makes more sense they only do if there are calls as when PD destroys drug labs, its weird they keep checking. IRL they could be everywhere, but unfortunately in this server it is limited by some standard places.

-1 I kinda get the idea, but the last change was a difference bewteen OOC and IC info. As Phone and radio are both IC I do think its not needed to change that color too. When your chat explodes with all different colors it will become a huge rainbow mess...

+1 . Especially with radio, faction chat, ooc messages, etc it is really confusing and leads to people thinking a bleet was said over the radio. I do think the radio color should be changed indeed. Orange IMO is a good one since your nametag changes to orange too if you talk over radio.

I do care as I am on the server to RP Thanks for explaining! We can all just ignore everything and create a solution around it, but as mentioned in the post: Bayview stand for their RP and really want to keep this high. Even at my training the trainer explicitly said that we expect good RP as we want to be an example for other people and gangs that want to be official. It's basically the same as your car getting stolen in a NCZ. You could have parked it at home and ignore everything, but that is just not how it should work. For some people its really hard to understand where the limit is. In GTA online you are limited to the game itself where in Roleplay your are limited to some rules too. At the end everyone (or atleast 99%) is here to roleplay and would like to have realistic and good experience. @gyrhnr I am really glad you come with ideas/solutions, but I rather dont have people commenting things just for having a laugh. We spended serious time on this post and would like serious responses.

Hello! Yes, I mentioned this in the post: " we are already trying to get our own cars parked at our houses or somewhere else to try to prevent this and we actively ask people to do this." But next to that, it still is failrp. Also, when heading out alone for a tow job this happens too. Ladt but not least, sometimes people just have to leave for urgent IRL reasons and are not able to drive home first.

Dear ECRP staff, I’ve been on the server a lot and spend a ton of hours at Bayview. With the gates added, Bayview got a beefy upgrade and it is great to have those gates. Also, the extra walls around the existing fences are great to have, so people can’t steal cars easily. Though, there still is an issue. There are walls added to prevent people from ramming the fences over and drive cars out. This is don’t at the north, south and west part of Bayview. I mapped this out: As you can see, where the gold line is drawn there isn’t any extra fences. Here is what that part looks like in-game: You would say it’s not needed as there is a small concrete ledge to keep cars in/out. Sadly, that isn’t the case. For a long time, there was no issue, until more and more people found out this could be done: So, this is what we have seen people doing: People climb over the fence and lockpick cars. After that they use a bigger car they have themselves or they got from lockpicking (as some people own a Sandking) to ram against the ledge. Sometime the vehicle they use to ram against this ledge is already high enough to ram the fences themselves, otherwise the vehicle bumps up and will touch the fence. People do this repeatedly till they have created the ramp. If they didn’t succeed doing this, they go into the office to reload the map. People mostly do this at times not many people are online. I do have the feeling people use the F4 list to check if there are any mechanics around, but I am not sure. A PD officer told me they do, but as I have no proof or whatever I can’t say this happens. This is bad RP as it makes no sense a fence would be able to create a ramp for a car that got quite some weight. Also, people damaging their cars by this process and reloading the map is not a good example of how RP should be. Bayview really stands for their good RP and wants to keep it that way. This is also a waste of time. Let me tell why: When this happens we mostly get the message we must make a report on the forum. The sad part is that this only happens when people arrive at Bayview when they are about to open the shop, as these people know they shouldn’t do this. Not everyone has their record program on directly when they join, so we barely have stuff to make reports of. And I am also sure it will be a waste of time for the people on the forum to review the reports IF we would make them, as there will be a ton of them. Now the issue is explained, we have found a solution that is hopefully possible. The solution for the other destroyable fences were some walls like these: But this won’t really fit at those fences as it would look odd and not “natural”. When you look at the fences you will see a small space in front of the fences: This amount of space is not big enough for those walls added earlier at the other fences, but I hopped into GTA editor and played around a little. I found those double fences who have a small footprint and cannot be destroyed. I was able to place them perfectly on the ledge, so that is what I did here: This fence is called the Double fence. You got multiple types of these. The ones who got a pole on both sides, the one with a pole on one side and both types also on single fence format. I kind of placed them a bit shitty, so use this picture only as an idea for now please. Here is 1 fence: I also made a video that shows the fence is indestructible and how it should work: https://plays.tv/s/Ly4vhbMznzru We all do really hope this will be looked at seriously as more people are getting to know about this “trick” as some Bayview employee actually for a message about he found out how to “legitimately” get vehicles out of Bayview. Bayview is family and we care about each other. To show how much we care about each other and the company we created a name list. This is not meant as an attack! This is just to show who, from the family, cares about it and show this in a more personal way instead of “+1”. We are not trying to get stuff done/stuff done sooner/extra stuff done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FKLFduJyY6YwRkC8JjTfw1YBbINCoNbjOeA1h1LtAdU/edit?usp=sharing We know the info in these suggestions can not be used IC, but in this case it’s hard to keep track of that. We know people will get to know about this trick by reading this, but we have accepted the risk as it is already getting out of hand. Next to that, we are already trying to get our own cars parked at our houses or somewhere else to try to prevent this and we actively ask people to do this. I want to thank everyone for reading this and hopefully someone would like to look into this. Kind regards, Audrey Martin with the help of the whole Bayview family!

+1 People RP "sleeping" when going ofline. Why not "sleeping" in jail?

Mega +1

Mega +1

Big +1. Also I would like to see a 911 cancel option....

+1 I like the white nametag thingy idea. A while ago there was someone at Bayview getting arrested by an undercover cop. The cop had the regular white nametag when he was arresting, so the person that was getting arrested said he wasn't able to see he was a cop, it was bugged and should not get arrested because of that. I can also remember that there was a quiz question where you have to answer that nametags are OOC and should not be used as IC information. And I also have to say it really influences MY RP, so I mainly would like to see just regular nametags for everyone.

+1 I think this would be a good addition.

Ineed. When you are close you are not gonna hear it, but at some type of distance you do. This confuses a lot of players sometimes and really influences RP. People behave different when they hear police sirens.

I totally agree! But I think there should be an option to switch between voice and text, since some people want and/or can use text only. Harvey Spencer

Omg... Thank you so much for mentioning this! Harvey Spencer

So I was thinking about the idea that people can buy multiple radio's so they can be on more frequency's at the time. Realisticly this should be possible, but I think IF it will be made possible there should be a limit of like 2 radio's people can have. (PS: there should be something that makes it clear if someone is talking on the radio or just talking normally. I can't hear the difference and it is pretty odd the radio sounds the same as a real person talking...) (PS PS: Maybe add a command to see your current radiofrequency?) It's just a simple suggestion, so please let me know what you think! Harvey Spencer

I understand that this is quite annoying since you have the options to select these things. Though, I would like to add somethhing: I own a Coquette Classic and sometimes I have my car with roof and sometimes not... When I get my car out of my house it is always a suprise for me. Also some people will see it with roof and some see it as a cabrio. I heared that there is the same issue with the Banshee. In regular GTA there is the option to remove the roof from these cars, but this is not added in the server... Harvey Spencer

Thanks! Harvey

Thanks! :D Harvey

Thank you so much for the support! Harvey

Good to hear that! Thank you! Harvey