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I can totally see this to be a thing, but at the same time the punishment system is not that bad, maximum you can get for shit loads of crimes is caped at 120min aka 2 hours. I like the idea as it is, but do not think it is needed addition.

It could be like part of existing faction, definitely not police because I believe they already have too many departments. But it could be like extra part for DOC maybe?

Hello all Eclipsians! Today I come to you with a suggestion due to the excessive amount of new players joining our server. A lot of these new players have never played role-play before and they have no knowledge or experience. That itself is not a bad thing as you can learn and we are here to help. But how do we make sure that the person, upon joining the server and wondering the streets of Los Santos, actually has the simple knowledge and understanding of RP that the server requires? The quiz is there and the written exam as well. We see a lot of people fail due to lack of knowledge, but then on the other side we see a lot of people pass it, but totally fail when allowed into the server. Such bad experiences and interactions do mess up the older player base role-play experience and upon allowing someone new into the server we have to make sure that the person will add to the experience, not take away. [Suggestion - TL:DR part] I suggest adding another legal faction - Los Santos Border Control - LSBC! This faction would be the one that is dealing with newcomers of the server and who's job is to actually confirm their knowledge and educate if needed via actual role-play! After the quiz and written exam is passed they would arrive at LS Airport where they have to go through the border control. The whole experience would be designed to introduce the newcomer to basic roleplay in terms of /me's and /do's and test their knowledge. It would consist of simple tasks that a border control officer would perform, like checking passport(licence), doing a body scan, inviting them to an interview room and asking for some simple questions as to "why are you here", "do you know anyone in town" and stuff like that. If the person shows understanding between IC, OOC, /do, /me and officer does not see no issues, then the person is let into Los Santos and is free to start their story. If by any chance the person shows lack of knowledge of the basic RP, then the outcome is really up to administration to decide. It could be explained on the spot via ooc method or denied entry meaning the person would have to try to educate themselves, ask on discord about stuff they dont understand and try the last phase again in maybe 4 hours, same as application cool-down. How to deal with it would come down to the level of lack of the knowledge. It is important for the whole community that we do our best to make sure we are met with at least average level of role-play, otherwise we will gain reputation of a bad RP server community due to the fact that large amount of newcomers do not understand basics. The screening system that we have at the moment is suppose to check for that, but unfortunately it allows the person to cheat while actual live role-play would make that task way harder even if someone would still assist, but even then the individual would see a real example how things work and learn. Just for laughs (Might have been trolling, but it's not far from truth we see) - I hope you will like this suggestion and consider it as I believe it would gradually improve the overall role-play experience and in matter of fact bring in new role-play with a new faction. Feel free to comment and add to my suggestion if you see how you could improve this idea.

I get that, and Im talking about those zones as well. If we would now give criminals option to chose - follow fear rp or not, due to the fact they are in crime zone, then we would see like 80-90% of the situations being treated without following the fear rp. For the same reason there is not just IC but also OOC rule in PD about corruption, because the amount of corrupt cops would be unrealistic in ratio to the amount of police in general. The same would be with this.

Yeah, but if Fear RP will be ignored, then people will take their chances with trying to fight instead of doing what is asked, because if both situation go wrong, then the outcome will be the same. By being allowed to pull out weapon and try to defend, gives at least slight chance of turning the tides around, therefore it will be overused.

Nah, I totally see your point but at the same time it would just turn into DM, because crime zone or not, you have to fear for your life. If you get a jump on and they are aiming at you, you should not do stupid things. I always look at stuff like that - if you are willing to do a CK in case you're not successful, then do it. If not, then don't do it with a knowledge that they gonna rob you anyways and if you die, you will resurrect.

And how I am suppose to correct those wrongs if I have no information available to even recognise them as wrongs in the first place? This suggestion does make the server objectively better by adding another element of RP. It has nothing to do with serving self interest. Like i said, if the officer has done everything by the book, then he should not worry about what the criminal is saying. if he has not, well then the criminal has all the rights to point out those mistakes based on the rulebook.

It feels that the only argument why not to have the information public is because it would create discomfort to the police officer conducting the arrest. Of course criminals will quote the rules, but how is that an issue? If you as a police officer are doing everything correctly by the books, then there is no issue there. If you are not and you are mistreating the suspect, well who's fault is it then that the suspect has a case against you? Definitely not suspects!

You missing the point, Im not saying that it feels like powergaming because they are not sharing info, I say that rp from police feels like powergaming as there is not much you can rp against when officer has made their mind. Even your screenshot says in the first bulletpoint - Other players must be given a chance to roleplay outcomes of actions - so what are the chances given? How can I roleplay outcome of an action? What is usually done? Two things, either someone will try to run or jus obey, but the outcome will always be the same - behind bars. Why there are no one playing as a lawyer? Because there are nothing a lawyer on this server could work on to try to free his client or lessen his/hers sentence.

Powergaming in a way that after the police officer has decided in his head that you're guilty you're guilty and there is not much chance you will get away. It's not the fact that I don't know the rule book, it the fact that I cannot appeal or have a chance to get out of the situation. It's a two stop journey if you lucky, could just be one stop journey. Last night I got imprisoned for the third time of my characters history and I would say that this was the first time where I honestly was 100% guilty and there was nothing to add to it, except the 190km/h delivery speed through the town, ignoring traffic and red lights with no sirens on. The reason why IRL such materials are available is because in reality Police and Government are public's servants, we, the public are the one you serve, not other way around, so as any employer we have the right to know everything that does not affect no one safety or process of investigation.

Yeah, what I meant was that as a civilian I dont know that , because I do not have information on how police works and what they base their decision on. In such situations I see that I have just called police, gave them my statement of a crime, pointed out the criminal and all the police does is have a friendly chat, like they friends from a local pub. I don't want you to look at this as a negative option to give. I believe it just adds to the roleplay and just because you have often experience with bad characters or baiters, does not mean this is a bad idea. That being said we can see an obvious division in support between those who's characters are police and who's not. Not a single individual with a police character is for the idea as it seems they are afraid from such information being public. And when you try to hide something from public, it means you have something to hide. If you gonna say that Im full of shit, then as an example I can put down the fact that my criminal character was delivered to station on 190km/h with no sirens on, for no reason to rush, from one side of city, to another and if I would not have the small experience I had and chance to see the expectations of police officer, I would assume there was nothing wrong with it. Not here to argue, just trying to show my reasoning for this suggestion and find a strong reasoning why this would be a bad suggestion.

Never said all and not the ones that police uses. It should be adjusted versions, meant for public as reference as how police works. Like even the thing when You get robbed, you call police and then point out the robber, police is not allowed to do nothing due to the fact that they did not witness it.

I know about the attorney part and when it's given, Im just pointing out the usual, when you have no way to prove your innocence in rp way. But the fact that you say that LAPD in real life has public handbook, that just proves my point. As a police, your way of working should be transparent, not hidden. Of course Im not talking about special operations like SWAT and shit.

Why is it so unrealistic? What is unrealistic is when you have no chance to prove your innocence. When you are read your rights and you ask for your lawyer and they say sure, then you are taken to prison and told - it's too late for a lawyer, you already been charged. When you are arrested and your property is searched without any probably cause just for the only fact that you were in proximity of a crime zone. How do you fight jail time if police officer has decided in his head that you're guilty? Police officer has to be 100% sure, and if he makes the arrest then everyone assumes he is 100% sure. My AI report outcomes proved that twice.

Hello dear roleplayers! Today Im coming with a small suggestion that I believe is to be really important in order to change the way this server is working. At this point in time when you deal with the police it is very one way and I could call it a hard power gaming in most of the cases because nothing you say will actually change the situation and you will be imprisoned. One of the reasons why I see this to be happening is the fact that the players on the server are not informed, because they do not have access, to the protocols that police officer has to follow. All of it is accessible only to police officers, therefore, the public is unaware of their rights. I suggest to create an adjusted version of police rule book that explains the structure and ways that the police officer has to follow in order to make an arrest, do a search or anything like that. My story is that on my main character I had two instances where I was wrongfully arrested or searched and I made AI reports, there was no base to what to go on. I could not point out specific things that were done wrong or how I should not have been arrested in the first place because there was no probable cause. Of course both my AI reports were denied by just simply saying - everything that was done was correct. Then I made my alternative account with who I joined Police. Now when I actually had the access to the police rule-book I was able to see all the mistakes done in my arrests. The fact that my AI reports were denied saying everything was done correctly and me reading through and seeing that it was not, almost makes me feel the corruption in the police - blue protecting blue. I believe it's time where a person can protect themselves of police wrong doings by pointing out their mistakes. This - Im a police and what I say is how its gonna be - mentality has to stop!

Oooof right when we moved out of beige suits. Almost another conflict due to colours haha. Rather than that, well done, like the style, graphics see you around.

I believe any of these two things is long due! The concept of robing fisherman is non-sense and if the goal is to get weapon from the fisherman, then that is pure metagaming in way cuz you use knowledge that most of the people on this server carry a firearm, so you use this OOC information about server, because in no way it is IC info.

I wish I would know more about post production and do more to my songs. Great job and the whole song is so "british rap" style. Reminded me of this one guy from twitch, I think his name was teawithmilkandsugar.

Welcome! I recently wanted to try out working at Zoo, but found out that you need some previous education around animals, so it was a flop for me, cuz Im at that age where I have to pay rent, so I cannot volunteer at the Zoo. You on the other hand sound like next Crocodile hunter. Talking about you being a nervous wreck, I totally understand you, I started the same way and still, sometimes, am nervous in situation due to the fact that English is not my first language so I feel bit limited. That being said I have to point out the fact that most of the people in here are non-English (at least I think so), so don't you worry. I would guess you come from forum roleplays? I've been part of some myself. About the roleplay in game, what I could suggest is to figure out your characters persona, its prologue as that will help you to figure out how to react to certain situations. Always think - what would my character do, considering he's this and that. If you live a legal life, then of course you should follow that example, and never even if it feels tempting, do things that any law abiding citizen would not do. Read the rules and make sure you follow them. Do not try to win situations, because you feel you want to. Follow common sense and logic. I hope you will enjoy your stay here!

Totally agree wit that because often the rule-break that is reported has happened due to the fact that the reporter was breaching some sort or rule in the first place and made the whole situation and rp experience annoying. Like not showing fear rp and ignoring the situation and then getting shot at which leads to a DM report although the reporter ignored everything happening in the first place.

As a character who plays half russian Im glad to see Russian Mafia, but I am really in love with your research about Russian Mafia. The ranks are just wonderful.

Might be one of the best backstories I have read! Love the real look at the MC and origin taken into account when saying - "If you’re from “the hood” you’re not whipping a Bugatti, you silly ass bitch." Always have loved MC's, so who knows, my criminal persona might be looking for new crew.

First in town Overseas business partners offered a new product and obviously Almighty Vice Lord Nation was the first in town to acquire it.

Security Mapping around Club Los Santos Due to several attempts of rival parties to catch Almight Vice Lord Nation off the guard, time for some perimeter scouting and control. Quick lunch break! Back to work now! The mapping is done, but a small accident while getting down the ladder. Luckily Medics are always here to help!

The first official single of Black Cassidy - Low End. The lyric video available bellow.