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Look i own two houses and even though i have massively profited from this i think the market as it currently is is dumb, there should be apartments made for new players. Supply and demand has always worked fine on this server with reselling houses for profit but at this point its too high to where its impossible to find anything to live in unless you grind your ass off. There is a reason for why eclipse has made "suggested" prices for each house. a 2g shouldn't cost 400k. The best thing would be to add apartments which would mean lots of new citizens would be able to get a cheap place to live in and RP without ruining it for those who are rich or who have invested in expensive houses.

+1 my boy

+1

Doubt this will ever change sadly, people apparently prefer to be some outrageous hypebeast gangster driving a supercar with a huge spoiler and neon instead of actually roleplaying lul

I don't think anyone really agrees with this i just think people would like to see more realistic and more effort being put into how the big gangs roleplay. They should be a good example of how to roleplay playing as a criminal for all the new people. When Zetas, Irish etc. go around and rob players without any proper RP for no real reason in the city at 12am that shows the new players that its okay just to do that. That its okay just to pull up to somebody and say hands up then proceed to /me attempts to pat down /do success? After all this is a roleplay server so i don't understand why people play it as if it was GTA online. This is not something the individual gang leaders can really manage as they have a life and can't track everyone during their RP but they should enforce the level of RP as they are an official faction. This will also help those who are members of factions complaining about new players that can't roleplay. There is nothing wrong with robbing someone but rob people at drug labs or in the forest or something, not in the middle of the day in the city.

Nobody here is selling any houses, literally only people buying houses. Thats the problem. The market is completely ruined currently and the prices have gone up crazy amounts because of the high demand and low supply. It doesn't work out. My character drives a 400k sportscar but can't get a basic house.

Looks great, and i respect you for actually choosing realistic looking vehicles and not outrageous supercars with neons. Keep it up!

Yeah its pretty impossible to find a house unless you have millies in the bank these days, back in 2017-2018 when i started playing it was quite easy to acquire a house but still took a lot of hard work. The prices around two months or so were quite high but reasonable and stable but with all the new players it is impossible to buy a house. It's quite demotivating to have a character with a lot of money that is homeless because there isn't any houses for sale on the server. It also seems stupid to make and work to acquire money when you can't spend it on anything except cars. I've alredy suggested that adding more houses is a good idea, and have gotten lots of lots of +1's so i hope it will get passed soon. I know the admins will auction off a few houses this saturday but im sure someone will bid super high on them and they won't change the market at all and just go to the rich people on the server again. The few people that are actually selling their house are selling them for extremely unfair markups just because of the high supply and micro demand. Doesn't really work out in a fun or fair way. Hopefully there will be some sort of fix to this soon.

For real, i'm trying to start up some sort of racing faction and its not the same when the newest vehicles and liveries haven't been added onto the server.

Its good to see that admins are auctoning off a Hermes and an Arena Issi but everyone still wants the GTA Online cars that hasn't been added yet. Especially the Jester Classic, Savestra, Pariah and Schlagen GT. Most other RAGE servers have them and its sad we don't have them in here because this is the best server. I wan't to create an RP faction for cars and these new cars would make everything better and make it so we would have more diverse cars. Especially tuner cars we need more of. Also we need to have added the new tuning parts and liveries for the penumbra,futo, ruiner and prairie that were recently added in GTA online. Would make for some great midnight tuner races.

+1 there's too many stupid unrealistic robberies happening with all the new people joining. Super unrealistic. Should be a rule forbidding that. Also there should possibly be a rule against using masks everywhere in public. Only using masks if you're going to rob people or you are running from someone.

No offense to you personally, or a few others of your high standing members and while i do agree with your perspective on the overall situation a lot of zetas (even some high standing ones) are just as bad as these new gangs at roleplaying and actually playing in a somewhat realistic way. Its quite impossible to roleplay and interact with any sort of gang in here because everyone is so damn hostile, zeta or new player. Even as a civilian trying to be friendly you immediately get told to fuck off or you get robbed. I get that gangs should be hostile to randoms but its gone to the extreme of either you are a friend or you get fucking robbed and shot.

+1 Everyone wants these, they are alredy in the game and just gotta be added! We don't only want these but also some of the more normal cars like the Fagaloa and 190z

Gonna give this one a -1 but i did wish that people in jail would be better at RP'ing with the prison guards. They don't take it serious because they got nothing to lose in there.

My advice is to try and start something up with friends or someone that you invite to join the server because with the current people on the server its literally impossible. Everyone is super hostile and will just tell you to either fuck off or get your hands up and rob you. Its not anything near roleplaying.

The server is currently based on cops VS criminals. Only those get stuff to actually do, commands, etc.. You can't play a Civilian. Only "civ" faction really is downtown cab co. It takes one hell of an imagination to play a civilian as a roleplayer and even then you won't ever make any money by doing so.

+1! How about a Miner job? at the Quarry. Miners would have to go and mine at the quarry for diamonds rocks and other minerals and drive it to the melting place thats in town (FROM GTA single player) and then sell it

you are telling the truth my man, been robbed five times today by noobs not properly roleplaying it. its getting to the point where its not fun anymore. Those that robbed you in the money truck were really entertaining to watch though, come and rob me guys! good job

Welcome!

+1 on this one, i'd like to have supercars rare but the point with supercars being too fast really isn't valid. Many sportscars are almost as fast and look and in real life would be just as expensive. Everyone on the server is driving Specters or Seven-70's so i don't see why we can't have some at least slow supercars like the Vacca or Bullet? i mean those are so slow even some of the more mediocre sportscars can follow them in speed. I'd like to see supercars return but at a higher price, i'm thinking the cheapest ones would start at around 1 million and the more expensive ones could go up to 3-4 (Nero, t20, xa-21 etc. the most desired ones) i Very rarely see supers here but i see expensive sportscars all the time.

Im always just salty about this but the roleplay quality at this point has really hit the bottom. Everyone is just BARELY playing by the rules, but putting aboslutely no effort into their roleplay. This happens daily to literally everyone i know that plays as a lawabiding citizen. Someone in a Schafter v12 will pull up with their gun in their hand and tell you to put your hands up and then frisk you and run away. They refuse to have any sort of conversation, or roleplay it in other ways than /me attempts to frisk the man /do success?. I've even experienced this myself in my short time in a gang on one of my characters. Some of the members tried to roleplay, but most were just there to farm money in groups and rob innocent people without any effort being put in. Doubt this will ever change, but i wish there would be some new rules for when it comes to robbing. Giving either citizens some way of defending themselves without them having their gun out constantly, or at least punishing those who aren't here to roleplay but instead to make money and guns. Apparently 50% of the server is badass robbers driving supercars and robbing people on the public streets of Los Santos. At this point it isn't about roleplaying and interacting with others but about making as much money as possible. Its not about being some drug dealer selling drugs in shady alleys in their old sedan but a guy in full camo outfit with an isis mask driving a drag bike filled with drugs and guns 200 km/h in the city about to drop it off. Everyone is playing to WIN and cops are just as bad as zetas or irish members. None of these factions will allow anyone to win over them or win in an RP situation. They'll simply drive around in groups of 3 contenders and completely dominate everything with ak's. Taking over a druglab and farming it for hours or mass robbing everyone in a row. More civilian jobs would really help, there is too much focus and reward on being a criminal or a cop on the server right now. Make more fun jobs for citizens and make it more valuable to play by the laws of los santos. Hit harder on people that aren't here to RP but instead play GTA Online. Unlike many other servers on FiveM where people seem to be in character, develop their character and have an unique and interesting personality, EclipseRP has turned into gang wars and cops and robbers. I really like this server and i've been here since 2017 on and off, and honestly i can say the playerbase was better back then. Smaller sure, but also more enthusiastic.The game is just not fun at its current state unless you are either a cop or a faction gang member. You don't really have anything to do, and you can't make any money roleplaying. I've tried trust me, but nobody wants to talk to you. Funnily enough i find most new players to be the most interesting to roleplay with, they come from SAMP and are really trying with /me and /do's but they usually really fast find out that thats not the way to play in here. You use voice chat to quickly say hands up, and have /frisk ready to copypaste on your keyboard. Many new players i've helped here will agree with me and OP.

Whatver you think, adding more houses will definately solve the problem. You just don't want it to happen because then you can't profit on your buisness. I really doubt supply and demand will rise again if more houses and specifically apartments will be added. If every house/apartment in the game existed as a purchaseable property everyone would have a house. I don't mind you making a rental buisness, go for it, but the current states of houses is broken and its ruined the market completely. I have more than enough money to buy a property and hopefully i'll be able to do so on my second character. He isn't homeless and he has a solid job with a solid income working for the government. He shouldn't be homeless. This isn't real life, after all its just a game so your economy 101 basics doesn't work like that in here. The server is simply being ruined because there are so many new players and not enough houses for them. This means that sellers will rise the price by 100000% and the rest of the citizens in here won't even sell their house. This isn't communism and those who have big vinewood hills mansions will keep them, but there is a bunch of smaller houses and apartments that really need to be added due to the player increase. I'm not saying every person on the server should have a house or an apartment but most players should have one. I have over 300 hours on this server and only one small house on my first character which i bought a long time ago. Nothing is wrong with rich people getting richer and poor people staying poor except that it ruins the server and fun completely, at this point nobody can even get a place to live. Even my second character who works at SADOC and has two sportscars and has 500k in the bank apparently can't even get a shitty apartment because nobody is selling anything. I refuse to pay 200k for a apartment thats valued 40k by the server itself. 80 sure, 200 no. Most people seem to agree with me aswell.

I don't, and its not worth it at all. It'll just make everything worse. Rich people will get richer and poor people will get poorer. You are part of the problem if you support that.