Gas station owners and store owners!

[Mariaaaa]

25 minutes ago, Yputi said:

Dear Mr. McDoodle.

Thanks for your message.
First of all, the Second you sent this message, believe it or not, 1 of my orders have been delivered. I would like to make some things clear.
"trying to leach $1500 truck runs" you state 1500 truck runs, while I have done the following:
 

• I seperated my order in 2:
  • 2 orders , costing $34455 + $34460 fuel total
     
• I've raised my pay for truckers to 2K per delivery (this comes together to an total of a 267% pay increase for the truckers now, as the order is twice as small compared to what I used to offer )
   

I would like to inform you that I was one of the first 2 station owners that raised their price to the agreed $10 minimum. This did cause me being the more expensive station for a small amount of time. Next to that, one of the stations in the city is basically losing money, setting their price below profit prices and also offering insane high delivery pay. I sadly can't do the same, but all this together did take away some business, considering this only started 2-3 days ago. 
Please make sure to be patient as this can't be done perfectly rightaway. This takes some time. Next to that, I expect you to kindly make sure the statements are correct, not giving people the impression my pay rate is 25% lower than mentioned and leaving away the fact my order is 2 times smaller now. I personally have a very detailed sheet where I keep track of almost everything and I am currently working on an automated system that calculates what money I can spend for the truckers based on the profits.
I am willing to work with you, but again, it takes time. 
I understand you, but I would also appreciate some understand from your side if possible as I could just ignore this since my deliveries are still being done.

Kind regards,
Audrey Sanchez.

Honestly I'll do it for 1k in my free time, $10 per liter for fuel is not bad either only 1k for a full tank..

Edited March 15, 2020 by Mariaaaa

[Yputi]

Small update, both orders haven been delivered within 1 hour in total now (( @Dewi Mcfestive ))

[Dewi Mcfestive]

21 minutes ago, Yputi said:

Small update, both orders haven been delivered within 1 hour in total now (( @Dewi Mcfestive ))

Yes i know it was my lot that delivered but this still doesnt complete the issue. You say you have raised your price to 2k and put the order into 2 batches. So let me help you here and calculate this out.

So due to the distance ofwhich we have to travel the cost for fuel on your runs is alot more expensive than some others. ($260 Each way!) So with this in mind that is $520 for fuel
To load up 64400 fuel it takes 10m 44seconds. Same to offload the fuel. Plus about 15m to bring it up to you.

 

So 36m 28s if you are running your arse off. for $1480. to then also spend another 10-15 (little faster without load) to drive back that ends up being around we will say 45m run as we cannon pick up trailers or jobs up north we have to go back to the depo in the south in order to pick up another trailer etc.

 

So my question to you is, Would you work for $2000 an hour?

[Dewi Mcfestive]

38 minutes ago, Mariaaaa said:

Honestly I'll do it for 1k in my free time, $10 per liter for fuel is not bad either only 1k for a full tank..

1k to spend half that on fuel is totally not worth it at all. you are insane if you think that is worth it.

[Yputi]

11 minutes ago, Dewi Mcfestive said:

Yes i know it was my lot that delivered but this still doesnt complete the issue. You say you have raised your price to 2k and put the order into 2 batches. So let me help you here and calculate this out.

So due to the distance ofwhich we have to travel the cost for fuel on your runs is alot more expensive than some others. ($260 Each way!) So with this in mind that is $520 for fuel
To load up 64400 fuel it takes 10m 44seconds. Same to offload the fuel. Plus about 15m to bring it up to you.

 

So 36m 28s if you are running your arse off. for $1480. to then also spend another 10-15 (little faster without load) to drive back that ends up being around we will say 45m run as we cannon pick up trailers or jobs up north we have to go back to the depo in the south in order to pick up another trailer etc.

 

So my question to you is, Would you work for $2000 an hour?

Dear MrDoodle,

You can't load up 64400 liters. The tank capacity of the whole station is 20,000.
Its also a bit weird to calculate why I need to pay for truckers' time of returning. However, I am still not seeing anythign back from the false statements that were made, which does not feels right in my opinion. I am starting to doubt all statements that were made, losing trust. Especially after the last message, while all my deliveries got doen within 1 hour... I also didn't notice anything being said about what I told in my previosu message.
If I am really honest, I start to feel like this group of 14 truckers you mentioned is non existing. But again, I would love to try and figure somethign out with you.

PS. SOME appreciation for starting to raise prices would be cool too. Especially after those false statements.

Kind regard,
Audrey Sanchez.

Edited March 15, 2020 by Yputi

[Dewi Mcfestive]

They are not false at all. And you know that. You raised the price of fuel to $10. which is about $2+ per L but also we DO actually have to load 64400 when you order "64400$" worth of fuel and we have to load it 100 at a time. So it might not be L in your end but in our end it sure feels like it. But for some unknown reason it seems we are loading in $ rather than loading in actual load value which would make a large change to the amount of time ofwhich we spend "sitting like a lemon" and would make your price closer to a reasonable one. You say you raised your truckers fee by 267% when in actual fact it has only been raised by 100% ontop of the previous pay of the base $1000 per trip, You could say that splitting up the order you therefore would be raising the pay by actually 300% total but with spliting the order it infact costs truckers more to deliver it. So although i agree with the initial statment that you have raised price's, Towhich the way you have implemented it is a slightly imbalanced way but thats your option. Granted as you said you have raised the price but another way to combat this in a more reasonable way would be to maybe change our loading procedure so we actually load in L and not load in the amount you spend. This would actually clear up around 30m for every "200,000$" job per load / unload time currently at 46m33s each load / unload. You can doubt any statment that you feel you want to. that is your entitled opinion. If you are looking for someone to prove something to you. just go out looking because i have nothing to prove to anyone. My word is my trust. I dont want a masive price hike but truckers are who supply you. and if your not making enough which was said. you raised your prices by a profit margin of 2/5ths from $8 to $10 Which is totally understandable considering the overall point of view and i totally support that and pay it daily. I would prefer to have fair pay all around and that includes fair price on fuel etc so everyone can make a profit that is worth while. One thing you have to remember is most of the truckers out there are still working towards their first truck. Its not an easy life using a rental. Something happens and that it. You have to go all the way back to the yard and request a new truck. If it is your own you get a little more overall and you are able to go to any garage and get issues sorted if need be. Some of the perks to having your own vehicle.

 

Hope this clears up anything.

Dewi.

[Dewi Mcfestive]

Some of the things i have thought about is maybe Ad space on owned trucks to help combat the pay issue. The is the posibility to do it just not sure if the goverment would be able to autherise that kind of thing where any company or person would be able to pay a trucker for the space. I think this would give truckers more of a reason for doing it at a lower pay rate.

[Yputi]

4 minutes ago, Dewi Mcfestive said:

They are not false at all. And you know that. You raised the price of fuel to $10. which is about $2+ per L but also we DO actually have to load 64400 when you order "64400$" worth of fuel and we have to load it 100 at a time. So it might not be L in your end but in our end it sure feels like it. But for some unknown reason it seems we are loading in $ rather than loading in actual load value which would make a large change to the amount of time ofwhich we spend "sitting like a lemon" and would make your price closer to a reasonable one. You say you raised your truckers fee by 267% when in actual fact it has only been raised by 100% ontop of the previous pay of the base $1000 per trip, You could say that splitting up the order you therefore would be raising the pay by actually 300% total but with spliting the order it infact costs truckers more to deliver it. So although i agree with the initial statment that you have raised price's, Towhich the way you have implemented it is a slightly imbalanced way but thats your option. Granted as you said you have raised the price but another way to combat this in a more reasonable way would be to maybe change our loading procedure so we actually load in L and not load in the amount you spend. This would actually clear up around 30m for every "200,000$" job per load / unload time currently at 46m33s each load / unload. You can doubt any statment that you feel you want to. that is your entitled opinion. If you are looking for someone to prove something to you. just go out looking because i have nothing to prove to anyone. My word is my trust. I dont want a masive price hike but truckers are who supply you. and if your not making enough which was said. you raised your prices by a profit margin of 2/5ths from $8 to $10 Which is totally understandable considering the overall point of view and i totally support that and pay it daily. I would prefer to have fair pay all around and that includes fair price on fuel etc so everyone can make a profit that is worth while. One thing you have to remember is most of the truckers out there are still working towards their first truck. Its not an easy life using a rental. Something happens and that it. You have to go all the way back to the yard and request a new truck. If it is your own you get a little more overall and you are able to go to any garage and get issues sorted if need be. Some of the perks to having your own vehicle.

 

Hope this clears up anything.

Dewi.

Dear MrDoodle,

again, you can not tarnsport 64,400 liters. I mentioned the amount in the price I personally paid for, not in liters. The fact you still deny that you made false statements is strange, considering I quoted you mentioning a price of $1500, while I have proof it wasnt the case. This damaged my trust and I will think about what I will do as this does feel like purposely trying to get even more money otu of it, while being the only person makign these statements at this point.

Again, I will think about some stuff, as I am not sure what to believe. For now I only ask to keep it at actual facts, as I do have all the facts myself noted in a sheet and all info about the prices I would have set according to you, including previously mentioned amounts of fuel being ordered are false.

Kind regards,
Audrey Sanchez.

[Dewi Mcfestive]

Looks like you really did not read all of my posts correctly so i will refresh over all of them now for you again. AutoServices. $1500 runs. Yours were $2000 i did not dispute that.

 

Now that one is out the way i will repeat what i just said. We have to load 64400 when you order "64400$" worth of fuel and we have to load it 100 at a time.

 

Read my information correctly before you reply to me. I will not repeat myself again. You may say you have the facts but actually reading them is another thing. I have not disputed you are and were paying $2000 for the 64400$ worth of fuel ofwhich we have to load not in Liters but in $ worth so we load up 64400 in 100 lots as i have previously stated. Yes you might have sheets for x and y. As do i, I have full documents at this point of the cost to the profitability to every single delivery that i have done over the past 7 days which is 166 total.

Ofwhich few of them have gone up yes. Some by the amount requested some slightly but better than nothing right now and then the some that have not moved at all. Now i will say again. I am not disputing you are paying $2000 and even explained it above. Please read what i said above and in this letter carefully.

 

Many thanks

Dewi

[Yputi]

1 hour ago, Yputi said:

Other companies out here trying to make a differance while your sat there trying to leach $1500 truck runs

I just leave this quote here. (( @Dewi Mcfestive ))

[Dewi Mcfestive]

Right but did i or did i not name 2 companies? not just the one? the company ofwhich is giving the $1500 as already stated is AutoServices.

 

If you are fishing here then i am afraid we are all outa fish.

[Mariaaaa]

On 3/13/2020 at 1:09 AM, Tomvd682 said:

You aint getting shit, just deliver the gas poophead

And I just leave this quote here.

[Dewi Mcfestive]

As you may. Have a wonderful evening.

[Jimmy Pegorino]

On 3/15/2020 at 11:15 PM, Dewi Mcfestive said:

Yes i know it was my lot that delivered but this still doesnt complete the issue. You say you have raised your price to 2k and put the order into 2 batches. So let me help you here and calculate this out.

So due to the distance ofwhich we have to travel the cost for fuel on your runs is alot more expensive than some others. ($260 Each way!) So with this in mind that is $520 for fuel
To load up 64400 fuel it takes 10m 44seconds. Same to offload the fuel. Plus about 15m to bring it up to you.

 

So 36m 28s if you are running your arse off. for $1480. to then also spend another 10-15 (little faster without load) to drive back that ends up being around we will say 45m run as we cannon pick up trailers or jobs up north we have to go back to the depo in the south in order to pick up another trailer etc.

 

So my question to you is, Would you work for $2000 an hour?

If your gonna complain about cost of deliveries they will either do it their selves and keep the money or find other people who will do it for them.

Theirs other jobs out their if you don't like the fees are fishing,mining or farming. One of the reasons why i got out of the Fuel or store buisness.

All i can say is the best buisness out their that makes more than anything is the Dealerships. They buy cars stock and sells them double the price and they ask $1500 for delivery but they make more profit than the Other company's.

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Jimmy Pegorino

[Jbacon]

 

Chumash 24/7 in Partnership with Shadow Corporation

We at Chumash 24/7 are proud to say we have taken the initiative in providing competitive compensation for truckers, while also maintaining great prices, even doing large scale giveaways. Owner and Operator of the business supports this move with the trucking company and looks forward to continuing to both prosper. 

If the Truckers Union of Operators has concerns please do not hesitate to reach out to me via e-mail at [email protected] ((https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1700)) and I look forward to helping get you established. 

For reference to other business owners, the store is running at 10% above import costs (excluding trucking) and is doing very well paying out over $5,000 per delivery on average, having given away over half a MILLION dollars worth of food to citizens of Los Santos over the past weekend, and also maintaining extremely low prices on all other products we offer. 

We are also willing to work with large groups for discounts on orders with large quantities, (20+ of a product, not to be combined quantities unless explicit deal has been brokered).

We look forward to continuing to be a leading tip of the sword for better financial stability for the citizens of San Andreas.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Jbacon

[Tomvd682]

13 hours ago, Jbacon said:

 

Chumash 24/7 in Partnership with Shadow Corporation

We at Chumash 24/7 are proud to say we have taken the initiative in providing competitive compensation for truckers, while also maintaining great prices, even doing large scale giveaways. Owner and Operator of the business supports this move with the trucking company and looks forward to continuing to both prosper. 

If the Truckers Union of Operators has concerns please do not hesitate to reach out to me via e-mail at [email protected] ((https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1700)) and I look forward to helping get you established. 

For reference to other business owners, the store is running at 10% above import costs (excluding trucking) and is doing very well paying out over $5,000 per delivery on average, having given away over half a MILLION dollars worth of food to citizens of Los Santos over the past weekend, and also maintaining extremely low prices on all other products we offer. 

We are also willing to work with large groups for discounts on orders with large quantities, (20+ of a product, not to be combined quantities unless explicit deal has been brokered).

We look forward to continuing to be a leading tip of the sword for better financial stability for the citizens of San Andreas.

Beta moment

[InvalidSun]

We at Jabumpkin's Sidearms would like to thank everyone who works to deliver our products and keep our business afloat. Though we may not need to order product often, when we need to do so, we would like to offer our drivers $20,000 for the delivery. Hopefully, this will be sufficient in providing our truckers with enough pay to sustain their own lifestyles. 

Once again, we appreciate our truckers, and respect the time you take away from home to make your living delivering goods. We wish you the best in your future and hope that one day, trucking can be a job that is worth the time you put into it.