Truckers Union taking a stand!

[Commander783]

@gyrhnr No need to be so aggressive... It's okay, that they want more pay.

[CaesarSeizure]

I am not a store owner, nor am i a trucker.

But the last thing i want is that truckers asking for better pay will result in higher gas prices to compensate for the delivery costs.

Additionally, taxes are applied based on your net worth, and the 35% tax bracket starts from 1mil in assets, and you could just own a single gas station, but that alone is already way beyond 1mil in value.

[Keilza]

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, gyrhnr said:

And stop with the "way of trucker life, trucks are expensive to maintain, i have a family to feed" crap , you litterally get a free truck running full of gas and free will to choose, there is NOTHING forcing you, every decision you make is because youwanted to.

I don't know if you realized but a good half of us truckers actually own our rig. We went out of our way to purchase it. So we are now liable for our own upkeep of our rig.

 

And because some truckers who "rent" their rig they tend to be more aggressive with it and start slamming into us truckers while doing their job.

[PurplePlant]

But as explained before, you can use your treasury to pay for deliveries tax free. This means as a responsible store owner, you should keep allocated funds in your business treasury to buy your products/services such as gas tax free. This means, factoring in the 35 percent PERSONAL wealth tax doesn't make sense. If you choose to have all your wealth in your pocket, that's your problem. The treasury is there for a reason and is not taxed for a reason. The government offers the ability to be tax free in personal wealth as well, if you cannot for whatever reason not touch your treasury money. Just pay the truckers a value based fee, such as amount of goods equals x amount of fee. This way, everyone makes money. Only giving 1000 for a gas delivery of 20,000 units is not a good deal. 20,000 liters sold at 10 dollars a liter is 200,000 minus the cost to buy, 100,000 as listed previously. This amounts to a 100,000 dollar profit BEFORE TAX. Now mind you, if you don't touch that money it's never taxed. That means, you can use those funds as purchasing power and perfectly be able to pay truckers (even out of your own pocket minus the tax) a whopping 10k for delivery and still see profit. Now before you claim the treasury money would be taxed, it wouldn't if you kept the amount you need to buy in there at all times and only remove excess profit. 

[LunaticFPV]

4 hours ago, gyrhnr said:

Guys just go do ATM or courier deliveries, farm, or try the other jobs available that provide constant pay.

Oh wait, they don't pay as much as some trucker deliveries? And they are not as easy as just driving a truck from A to B?

What do you do? You attack all business owners ,those that dissagree with you and now the tax, that helps pay and operate all government employees and helps to keep inflation in control.

 

All I can see here is keyboard warriors who have no idea how things work, yet cry for more pay,more money but don't want to put the time and effort to earn it. 

Suck it up and help yourself. 

 

Edit: You also have the option to choose and pick which deliveries you're willing to take or skip. Force business owners to pay you more for specific deliveries by not delivering their order, not by complaining,attacking everyone and playing the "greedy capitalist card". Also,taking an order you do not like and holding onto it,so no one else can deliver it even if they wanted to, and looking for the owner of the business to threathen him that if he wont pay more you will never deliver is also not right.

And stop with the "way of trucker life, trucks are expensive to maintain, i have a family to feed" crap , you litterally get a free truck running full of gas and free will to choose, there is NOTHING forcing you, every decision you make is because youwanted to.

@gyrhnr ((OOC: Dude, this is an RP forum, with RP posts about trucking. We have put in quite a lot of development into this RP, as you can see by our WIP faction post. Your argument of "All I can see here is keyboard warriors who have no idea how things work, yet cry for more pay,more money but don't want to put the time and effort to earn it. " Is completely irrelevant, because we've only been at this RP since the other day, and we've already started a faction post and structure according to the faction guidelines, and we are currently working on our internal processes. I would really appreciate it if you could please stay in character. We chose trucking because it was a niche that wasn't really filled by any player-run faction/organization, and because, well, we like the RP. It has been super fun for us so far. Please don't rain on our parade. ))

 

[gyrhnr]

(( Everything I wrote is IC , I don't know why you guys took it OOC ?? ))

[LunaticFPV]

24 minutes ago, gyrhnr said:

(( Everything I wrote is IC , I don't know why you guys took it OOC ?? ))

(( OOC: We took it as OOC because you're mixing a lot here. Thanks for replying and setting it straight. ))

 

[LunaticFPV]

5 hours ago, gyrhnr said:

Guys just go do ATM or courier deliveries, farm, or try the other jobs available that provide constant pay.

Oh wait, they don't pay as much as some trucker deliveries? And they are not as easy as just driving a truck from A to B?

What do you do? You attack all business owners ,those that dissagree with you and now the tax, that helps pay and operate all government employees and helps to keep inflation in control.

 

All I can see here is keyboard warriors who have no idea how things work, yet cry for more pay,more money but don't want to put the time and effort to earn it. 

Suck it up and help yourself. 

 

Edit: You also have the option to choose and pick which deliveries you're willing to take or skip. Force business owners to pay you more for specific deliveries by not delivering their order, not by complaining,attacking everyone and playing the "greedy capitalist card". Also,taking an order you do not like and holding onto it,so no one else can deliver it even if they wanted to, and looking for the owner of the business to threathen him that if he wont pay more you will never deliver is also not right.

And stop with the "way of trucker life, trucks are expensive to maintain, i have a family to feed" crap , you litterally get a free truck running full of gas and free will to choose, there is NOTHING forcing you, every decision you make is because youwanted to.

I would first like to respond to your incendiary comment:

"All I can see here is keyboard warriors who have no idea how things work, yet cry for more pay,more money but don't want to put the time and effort to earn it. 

Suck it up and help yourself." 

Sir, we are Teamsters.

That is our lot in life, whether it be because we enjoy the freedom of contract work, or the open road. Personally I have tried those other jobs, and found them to be oppressive. Long hours for low pay, working for someone else doesn't have the same satisfaction of being an owner-operator of a big rig.

We know how things work around here, and we are helping ourselves by organizing the Los Santos Teamster's Union. Our group uses political and logistical pressure to affect real change in the city and county of Los Santos. Our end goal, as stated many, many times, directly to you, is to bring about fair delivery prices for both Teamsters and Retailers.

We are helping ourselves, by forming the Los Santos Teamster's union.

Now to address your stance on our labor strike.

First, you said, "Force business owners to pay you more for specific deliveries by not delivering their order, not by complaining,attacking everyone and playing the 'greedy capitalist card'."

Then, you contradicted yourself, saying "Also, taking an order you do not like and holding onto it,so no one else can deliver it even if they wanted to, and looking for the owner of the business to threathen him that if he wont pay more you will never deliver is also not right." 

Taking an order and holding on to it so it will not be delivered is the very definition of a labor strike. I would advise you re-think your negotiation tactics.

 

[LunaticFPV]

4 hours ago, CaesarSeizure said:

I am not a store owner, nor am i a trucker.

But the last thing i want is that truckers asking for better pay will result in higher gas prices to compensate for the delivery costs.

Additionally, taxes are applied based on your net worth, and the 35% tax bracket starts from 1mil in assets, and you could just own a single gas station, but that alone is already way beyond 1mil in value.

As most of our union consists of owner-operators, high fuel costs are the last thing we want. Our boycott was intended to get the attention of the public, and bring retailers to the table to negotiate, as our pay conditions were abysmal. Currently, there is a cease-fire on our boycott because of positive response from retailers. We are making sure the goods are still being delivered, but the boycott will resume if we are not offered fair compensation for our work.

Additionally, we are happy to assist retailers who pay us fairly in lobbying for better tax rates. Our membership ranks are swelling daily, and we hope the Los Santos Teamster's Union can have a positive effect on logistics and public safety here in Los Santos.

[Keilza]

Just like to point out that last night we had fair prices for units from LosZantos247. I would like to thank them if they are reading this for your cooperation!

[LeftSharkie]

Hello members of the Union,

How's the MeowMeow store doing on east highway? 

[Keilza]

43 minutes ago, LeftSharkie said:

Hello members of the Union,

How's the MeowMeow store doing on east highway? 

Is the store called MeowMeow, if so I haven't seen it pop up? I'll have a word with the other members.

[Hilbert]

16 hours ago, LeftSharkie said:

Hello members of the Union,

How's the MeowMeow store doing on east highway? 

As a customer, I like the prices.

[Bear Baldwin]

I will hereby double the fee paid to truckers from what I usually pay,

So the normal 5.000$ will from now on be 10.000$

Best regards

Bear Baldwin

Owner and CEO of Highway Gas Co.

[Keilza]

Just now, Bear Baldwin said:

I will hereby double the fee paid to truckers from what I usually pay,

So the normal 5.000$ will from now on be 10.000$

Best regards

Bear Baldwin

Owner and CEO of Highway Gas Co.

Oh, that is very generous of you Mr. Baldwin, may I get your number, please?

Bruce.

[Keilza]

On 7/23/2019 at 1:08 AM, LeftSharkie said:

Hello members of the Union,

How's the MeowMeow store doing on east highway? 

After seeing what you have been ordering on dispatch and the prices from the manifest. You're prices are very good and fair.

[Xoza]

I was excited to see a union working on improving the life of trucking, I used to be an owner/operator trucker and still have my trucking license. I do miss the road and would love to see it again. I even helped out and brought together other drivers during the great drought ((when food/drink was added)).

However while wage can be an issue, it seems to be a large focus here and against the people who pay us who can easily get their own license, removing the opportunity for work entirely, though I do agree you may have to pass down some of these charges to your customers. @LunaticFPV, your team should work on calculating manpower and time spent performing various deliveries and loads, in addition to mileage and provide those calculations so the stores you deliver to can offer a better wage per hour by load time.

Now, @Com783 @Jasmine or any other store owner. If you supply emergency service departments with occasional snacks and drinks (donuts and coffee obviously) or offer discounts to these departments, I'll gladly move cargo to your store anytime you need it. And.. that's how you negotiate.

- X. Shadow

[Commander783]

We are not food&drink delivery. That's a complete different job.

Anyways... I think, the truckers union and everyone else is happy with my payments, I give out by now.