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Us Truckers are getting pissed off with low ass jobs for 200,000 volume of fuel. The next time someone lowballs us truckers a job we will retaliate! You have been warned, Especially HayesGas!

Name and Shame all Jobs!

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I have a submission via email. This is Paradise68 offering 2 x 25,000 of fuel for $1,000 each.

 

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Here we all are, The Truckers Union! Let's continue to boycott all the lowballers!

 

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5 minutes ago, Com783 said:

@Keilza Am I paying alright? - Stefanie H.

I'm not aware of your current prices? Give us a rough price list and we will say.

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8 minutes ago, Com783 said:

@Keilza Am I paying alright? - Stefanie H.

@Com783 We want $1 per unit for fuel and goods, or $2k-3k per automobile. We're willing to negotiate to something that is fair for everyone, though.

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1 minute ago, Keilza said:

I'm not aware of your current prices? Give us a rough price list and we will say.

I am the owner of ShoreParadise and Paradise68. I am running probably the cheapest store in the state. You would have to check it out by yourself.

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1 minute ago, Com783 said:

I am the owner of ShoreParadise and Paradise68. I am running probably the cheapest store in the state. You would have to check it out by yourself.

Your order earlier was not good. 2 x 25,000 of fuel for 1k each. Just isn't enough money for us truckers to slave over. We all have families and want to earn an honest wage.

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Just now, Keilza said:

Your order earlier was not good. 2 x 25,000 of fuel for 1k each. Just isn't enough money for us truckers to slave over. We all have families and want to earn an honest wage.

@Com783 25,000 units of fuel = $25,000 delivery fee. Like I said earlier, we're open to negotiation, but $25k to make 175k is still a great return for the shopkeeper.

 

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This delivery for Don'sDeals will sit in the yard until they come up with some real offers. 10,000 units of water costs $10k to deliver. 

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This one for HayesFuel. 200,000 of Fuel for $1,000? Not a chance. Your fuel trailer will sit on the back of my rig until the price is right.

 

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30 minutes ago, LunaticFPV said:

@Com783 25,000 units of fuel = $25,000 delivery fee. Like I said earlier, we're open to negotiation, but $25k to make 175k is still a great return for the shopkeeper.

 

Okay. I will give you a figure, how much we have to pay for import and taxes:

10 units is one actual item.

Each liter fuel costs 5 dollar to import. 10 units of fuel, is 1 liter of fuel. 10 units of goods, is 1 piece.

I am selling fuel for an average of 7.5/8 dollar per liter. That is just about 50 000 - 60 000 $ profit in ((about a week)), with no tax and trucker payment applied and 100 000 $ go for fuel import, for 20000 liter of fuel.

I pay 8000 $ for truckers for 20000 liter fuel. Which means for me, my profit is just 42 000 $ - 52 000 $ for about ((one week)).

Now here comes the tax: 35 %. My profit then becomes the following 27 300 $ - 33 800 $ for about ((one week)).

Now I have to pay for weazel news blips pretty much, to get some customers to my fuel station or my store, otherwise, it will take 1.5x - 2.5x longer to get these figures.

So I have to pay Weazel News Employees about 7 000 - 21 000 $ for a ((week)) GPS blip.

My store takes two times longer to generate money and needs a permanent GPS blip, for being so hidden.

There are import prices for all the goods for the store. I sell goods for about +25 % till +50 % from their import price. Most stores sell for +100 % or even more.

Just an hint: 20 bottles of water pay one delivery for my store, currently that is.

I might increase the payment for each fuel delivery to about 1250 $ next time, but that's about it.

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9 minutes ago, Com783 said:

Okay. I will give you a figure, how much we have to pay for import and taxes:

10 units is one actual item.

Each liter fuel costs 5 dollar to import. 10 units of fuel, is 1 liter of fuel. 10 units of goods, is 1 piece.

I am selling fuel for an average of 7.5/8 dollar per liter. That is just about 50 000 - 60 000 $ profit in ((about a week)), with no tax and trucker payment applied and 100 000 $ go for fuel import, for 20000 liter of fuel.

I pay 8000 $ for truckers for 20000 liter fuel. Which means for me, my profit is just 42 000 $ - 52 000 $ for about ((one week)).

Now here comes the tax: 35 %. My profit then becomes the following 27 300 $ - 33 800 $ for about ((one week)).

Now I have to pay for weazel news blips pretty much, to get some customers to my fuel station or my store, otherwise, it will take 1.5x - 2.5x longer to get these figures.

So I have to pay Weazel News Employees about 7 000 - 21 000 $ for a ((week)) GPS blip.

My store takes two times longer to generate money and needs a permanent GPS blip, for being so hidden.

There are import prices for all the goods for the store. I sell goods for about +25 % till +50 % from their import price. Most stores sell for +100 % or even more.

Just an hint: 20 bottles of water pay one delivery for my store, currently that is.

I might increase the payment for each fuel delivery to about 1250 $ next time, but that's about it.

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I can only agree to this. I agree that $1000 is maybe not the right amount but whatever you are asking is WAY too much. 

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2 minutes ago, Fa1N said:

I can only agree to this. I agree that $1000 is maybe not the right amount but whatever you are asking is WAY too much. 

They have just no clue, how and what kind of money we are making in a specific amount of time. The store near bank for example, should at least pay every trucker about 2500 $ or even more with their ridiculous high prices. It's an owned store by criminals. Shouldn't have been allowed in the first place at all. sigh

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Well until something is done, Us truckers will continue to stall deliveries. Do you know how long it takes to fill up 200,000 volume of fuel? Almost 60 minutes, then got to unload at the other end for almost 60 minutes. 2 Hours for $1250 just is not enough. I don't care if you raise your prices or taxes go down. Something needs to be done.

 

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1 minute ago, Keilza said:

Well until something is done, Us truckers will continue to stall deliveries. Do you know how long it takes to fill up 200,000 volume of fuel? Almost 60 minutes, then got to unload at the other end for almost 60 minutes. 2 Hours for $1250 just is not enough. I don't care if you raise your prices or taxes go down. Something needs to be done.

 

I am talking 2500 liter for $1250. So $10000 in total. If you want 2500 $ for 2500 liter, we might have to double fuel prices. So in my case 14-16 dollar per liter. Is it that, what you want?

But that's impossible, with the current market competition and people wanting cheap fuel.

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35 minutes ago, Com783 said:

Okay. I will give you a figure, how much we have to pay for import and taxes:

10 units is one actual item.

Each liter fuel costs 5 dollar to import. 10 units of fuel, is 1 liter of fuel. 10 units of goods, is 1 piece.

I am selling fuel for an average of 7.5/8 dollar per liter. That is just about 50 000 - 60 000 $ profit in ((about a week)), with no tax and trucker payment applied and 100 000 $ go for fuel import, for 20000 liter of fuel.

I pay 8000 $ for truckers for 20000 liter fuel. Which means for me, my profit is just 42 000 $ - 52 000 $ for about ((one week)).

Now here comes the tax: 35 %. My profit then becomes the following 27 300 $ - 33 800 $ for about ((one week)).

Now I have to pay for weazel news blips pretty much, to get some customers to my fuel station or my store, otherwise, it will take 1.5x - 2.5x longer to get these figures.

So I have to pay Weazel News Employees about 7 000 - 21 000 $ for a ((week)) GPS blip.

My store takes two times longer to generate money and needs a permanent GPS blip, for being so hidden.

There are import prices for all the goods for the store. I sell goods for about +25 % till +50 % from their import price. Most stores sell for +100 % or even more.

Just an hint: 20 bottles of water pay one delivery for my store, currently that is.

I might increase the payment for each fuel delivery to about 1250 $ next time, but that's about it.

@LunaticFPV

@Com783 This is exactly the kind of negotiation we need to see from merchants. That being said, what you're offering is still extremely low. 200k litres of fuel is 200k litres of fuel. It says it right there on the manifest. Let's look at what it would cost you for the fuel, not factoring in our shipment first. Then, we'll take a closer look at this to get something fair for everyone. The main issue we have is that we're being paid so little that we can't keep our rigs running, due to mechanical failures. Some of our guys are having trouble feeding themselves and their families. 

 

I have some points that need clarification from your end, if you could help me out?

  • It costs you $5/liter to import, for 200k litres: end cost of $1,000,000, correct?
  • Is the 35% tax applied to your income, or to the fuel?
  • Your store's location is an issue, because it is farther away. Logistically, it costs us more to deliver to you than other stores.
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4 minutes ago, Com783 said:

I am talking 2500 liter for $1250. So $10000 in total. If you want 2500 $ for 2500 liter, we might have to double fuel prices. So in my case 14-16 dollar per liter. Is it that, what you want?

But that's impossible, with the current market competition and people wanting cheap fuel.

@Com783 What we want are merchants to come to the table and negotiate, just like you're doing. I'm sure we can work a deal out that benefits all of us.

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6 minutes ago, LunaticFPV said:

@Com783 This is exactly the kind of negotiation we need to see from merchants. That being said, what you're offering is still extremely low. 200k litres of fuel is 200k litres of fuel. It says it right there on the manifest. Let's look at what it would cost you for the fuel, not factoring in our shipment first. Then, we'll take a closer look at this to get something fair for everyone. The main issue we have is that we're being paid so little that we can't keep our rigs running, due to mechanical failures. Some of our guys are having trouble feeding themselves and their families. 

 

I have some points that need clarification from your end, if you could help me out?

  • $5/liter to import, for 200k litres: $1,000,000
  • Is the 35% tax applied to your income, or to the fuel?
  • Your store's location is an issue, because it is farther away. Logistically, it costs us more to deliver to you than other stores.

 

I told you, in my post above, that 10 units is just ONE actual LITER.

It's NOT, 200 000 Liter. It is 20 000 Liter.

 

35 % tax is applied, when I withdraw it to my salary.

 

The store distance could be way worse. Use the freeways/highways correctly and don't drive through the city, so you will get there faster.

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I pay $3000 trucking fee for 3000 units (or less, 3000 units is max I buy at a time) of food/beverage and it's not far from the depot. Is that fair for you guys? 

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1 minute ago, Com783 said:

I told you, in my post above, that 10 units is just ONE actual LITER.

It's NOT, 200 000 Liter. It is 20 000 Liter.

@Com783 I told you, the manifest reads 200k liters. When we fill up the tank for delivery, it says 200k liters. That's 200k liters. It doesn't matter what numbers display on your end to us, because we can't see those and don't know what's going on with your end of things.

This boycott and strike got your attention, but we can always continue the boycott and strike if you're unwilling to negotiate. As Truckers, we would rather return to work with a solution that is amicable for everyone.

I am still in need of clarification on your end. 

  • One load of fuel costs you how much exactly? 
  • Is the fuel taxed by 35% or is your income taxed by 35%?

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