bloodymarysgirl Posted Wednesday at 03:56 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:56 AM Just like the New Player tag, Daxu brought up the idea of adding a tag for players with disabilities. My boyfriend, who plays on the server, is deaf in real life. Because of this, there are situations where he may not notice things that other players would, especially if they rely on voice or audio cues. A disability tag could help other players understand this and encourage reasonable accommodations when interacting with players who choose to use it. If a tag like this were added, it would also be important to establish clear guidelines for how it should be used and what, if any, accommodations or expectations come with it. That way, everyone understands how to interact respectfully and consistently, while avoiding confusion or creating unfair advantages. The tag would be completely optional, allowing players to decide for themselves whether they want to identify as having a disability. Its purpose would simply be to improve communication, awareness, and the overall experience for those who may need it. 6 6 2 Quote
Galaxy420 Posted Wednesday at 04:00 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:00 AM PLEASE, as this would helpful with many reason such as if someone try rob me or PDs chase. They would know and use textbox the sec they see that tag. This suggest was bring up by a mod. So hope ya will add this. 2 1 1 Quote
AmaraFox Posted Wednesday at 04:13 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:13 AM Hi, thanks for anyone taking the time to read this suggestion. I feel like after spending time with Galaxy and his friend ic that this would be a helpful and reasonable accommodation for anyone who would like to make use of such a feature. I have personally seen the struggle they face with interactions at times. I myself have struggled to make sure I am using second voice with them present as much as possible to make sure there is a sense of inclusion with my fellow players. I have also seen the other side of this where other people in the city have refused to use second voice or have "not seen" the hot key that galaxy is forced to use, sometimes multiple times in a conversation in order for people to realize that he cannot hear them. Its small things like this that can make the server a better place for everyone and relieve frustrations as well. 5 Quote
Daxu Posted Wednesday at 04:18 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:18 AM +100 I told them to make the suggestion after resetting a situation that was a genuine misunderstanding between both parties. Because deaf players often use a hotkey to disclose their needed accommodation in OOC chat, I figured it might be easier if there was a tag they could opt for that more simply communicates this. This could also be effective for players with other needs, like assistive input devices that could otherwise slow down their typed RP responses. 4 1 Quote
NinerTwoGolf Posted Wednesday at 06:17 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:17 AM I like this. +1 2 1 Quote
padpilot Posted Wednesday at 07:05 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:05 AM This is a absolutely fantastic idea. Any form of accessibility should be welcome. Mega +1 from me. Great stuff. 3 Quote
RustyOsprey2 Posted Wednesday at 07:30 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:30 AM Don't think new player tags or IDs should exist at all. I definitely don't want to have to look at a DISABLED tag above someone's head during roleplay. But hey, server isn't supposed to be serious RP, so maybe, I guess. 1 1 Quote
Daxu Posted Wednesday at 07:41 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:41 AM 2 minutes ago, RustyOsprey2 said: Don't think new player tags or IDs should exist at all. I definitely don't want to have to look at a DISABLED tag above someone's head during roleplay. But hey, server isn't supposed to be serious RP, so maybe, I guess. I think the suggestion is mainly to self identify if you need to handle the game mechanics differently so that you don't have your disability unwillingly exploited. 1 Quote
padpilot Posted Wednesday at 07:52 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:52 AM (edited) 21 minutes ago, RustyOsprey2 said: I definitely don't want to have to look at a DISABLED tag above someone's head during roleplay. Dude that is incredibly selfish. Edited Wednesday at 07:52 AM by padpilot 1 1 Quote
bloodymarysgirl Posted Wednesday at 08:11 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 08:11 AM 39 minutes ago, RustyOsprey2 said: Don't think new player tags or IDs should exist at all. I definitely don't want to have to look at a DISABLED tag above someone's head during roleplay. But hey, server isn't supposed to be serious RP, so maybe, I guess. Not every feature has to exist for RP immersion. Accessibility features are meant to make the game more inclusive, and players who need them shouldn't have to choose between participating and staying invisible. 2 Quote
bloodymarysgirl Posted Wednesday at 08:16 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 08:16 AM I've seen this happen firsthand. People ignore players who say they're deaf because they don't believe them, and it's incredibly frustrating. I've also seen criminals and PD deliberately use voice around them anyway, effectively setting them up because they know the player can't hear what's being said. That's exactly why there should be clear rules about this. Without rules, there's nothing stopping people from taking advantage of a player's disability or pretending they never knew. A visible indicator only works if players are expected to respect it. The goal isn't to give anyone special treatment—it's to make sure everyone has a fair opportunity to participate in RP without being intentionally disadvantaged because of a real accessibility need. 2 Quote
Dexter Nevermore Posted Wednesday at 10:32 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:32 AM (edited) +1 this is one amazing idea, that said i do surgest to have this tag placed by a staff member of the server since not everyone would use this option honestly and this would prevent abuse of this feature, id also maby surgest not ''disabled'' but deaf or ect, disabled is such a negative stemple sometimes, i rather see someone is deaf then disabled?? Edited Wednesday at 10:34 AM by Dexter Nevermore 3 Quote
Lacey Vincero Posted Wednesday at 10:44 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:44 AM I love this idea, however when I joined a few years ago I remember interacting with a player at Old Bayview and there was a notice they could send to inform they were deaf, I cant remember if it came up icly or oocly but either way it was in the text box and helped so much. Does it not exist anymore? Or have we just not had many players like that? Maybe someone else might know what I'm talking about. All in all this has my support. 2 Quote
MrSilky Posted Wednesday at 01:14 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 01:14 PM This is a very good idea and allows all individuals who may have day to day impairments to feel included in the community without the anxiety of having to explain their difficulties in OOC chat for every interaction they have. This has been forwarded to the founders for final review - thank you for this suggestion! 4 Quote
Harley Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM 3 hours ago, Lacey Vincero said: I love this idea, however when I joined a few years ago I remember interacting with a player at Old Bayview and there was a notice they could send to inform they were deaf, I cant remember if it came up icly or oocly but either way it was in the text box and helped so much. Does it not exist anymore? Or have we just not had many players like that? Maybe someone else might know what I'm talking about. All in all this has my support. That guy just had a bind that sent the notice in /b. He formatted it nicely to catch your attention using ~r~ and shit I +1 this. We have many members of our community who would benefit from this, such as @Spextrum 1 Quote
Spextrum Posted Wednesday at 02:31 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:31 PM 2 minutes ago, Harley said: That guy just had a bind that sent the notice in /b. He formatted it nicely to catch your attention using ~r~ and shit I +1 this. We have many members of our community who would benefit from this, such as @Spextrum Ping me again and I'll kill you Quote
UndeadDemon Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Yesss! this is amazing idea I think it would be extremely helpful for players like us right now, every time we interact with someone, we have to use a hotkey or OOC message to let them know we're deaf in real life. so Both Galaxy and I are deaf, and sometimes people don't believe us or simply ignore it. Having a Deaf tag would make things much easier because other players would immediately recognize that we may need a little extra time to type and respond, instead of us having to explain it every single interaction. I understand that sometimes people forget, and that's no big deal we can always remind them. The problem is when people ignore us or don't believe us, which can make roleplay frustrating. WELL SAID EXACTLY! @bloodymarysgirl in my experience, I once interacted with a correctional officer while being processed in a jail cell. The officer never said anything to me or gave me a chance to respond they simply processed me and sent me to prison... What is that kinda roleplay??? But it is what it is I really hope this suggestion is considered in the future it would improve roleplay make the community more inclusive, and more respectful 1 Quote
Pazz Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM This is good so long as the use of the toggle is moderated sufficiently. Not in the sense that someone who toggles it once gets flagged and questioned, but I know this community, and it'll be no time until there are photos in fashion with people using the tag for a quick laugh. I'm not a prude or offended by jokes, but I'd hate to see misuse backfire and make people feel ostracized. 1 Quote
brooklands280t Posted Wednesday at 04:32 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:32 PM Nice idea, wouldn't even need to be a tag like new player it could just be a [*] that expands when someone opens the scoreboard like *Hearing Impaired* next to the ID number 1 Quote
Eliza Posted Wednesday at 05:27 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:27 PM It would be good as long as it’s not misused as @Pazz mentioned. Maybe there can be certain hard set tags like “Deaf” or “Hard of Hearing” or anything else that could be applicable. 2 Quote
bloodymarysgirl Posted Thursday at 01:12 AM Author Report Posted Thursday at 01:12 AM I would prefer if admins controlled it because, for staff-related reasons, they would know who has the tag and could keep a list. Again, thank you all so much to everyone who has upvoted this and contributed to the discussion! Your support and feedback truly mean a lot to me, and I appreciate every single one of you. Thank you for helping make this idea even better! 1 Quote
Lacey Vincero Posted Thursday at 02:53 AM Report Posted Thursday at 02:53 AM 12 hours ago, Harley said: That guy just had a bind that sent the notice in /b. He formatted it nicely to catch your attention using ~r~ and shit Ahh, thank you. I am glad someone knew what I was talking about. I think something like that worked well, might work well in this case also. Quote
Dapph Posted Thursday at 05:08 AM Report Posted Thursday at 05:08 AM 21 hours ago, RustyOsprey2 said: Don't think new player tags or IDs should exist at all. I definitely don't want to have to look at a DISABLED tag above someone's head during roleplay. But hey, server isn't supposed to be serious RP, so maybe, I guess. As crazy as this statement is, I believe there is a /togglehud command if that's what you want. 1 Quote