Private drug labs

[Flaslak19]

Please for the love of god add this feature back. For everyone that invested so much money into this method of making money its a real blow to the face. I had my own RV with a good drug lab now for all that money invested and means of making money gone.  Now we have to go to public drug labs where criminals with monopoly are just going to camp you out. This change just created less criminal opportunities for everyone. I understand the issue of someone standing and cooking all day is problematic. Atleast add an timer on it that creates a limit on how much you can cook a day. This was a very good method of making money on the side. Please add it back in a different way of doing it. Please

[Bala]

No it didn't, it forces you to interact with other people which is the entire point of a multiplayer roleplay server.

It was a great method of making money because there was next to no chance you'd get caught slipping.

[Flaslak19]

what about selling it? getting distributors, taking the risk of getting the weed plants etc? Literally plenty rp material just to get everything. Now we have to risk getting robbed constantly by pvp mentality criminals? Its actually ridicilous. And to be honest, everyone who invested a shit ton of money into it should absolutely be compensated. This is a feature in almost every rp game. I dont see a reason why it doesnt belong in a rp game. A few hours of cooking doesnt mean we arent rping the majority of the time. 

[Flaslak19]

With all due respect in my opinion this is just a plot to make people spend more credits. Cooking was a very fortunate way of making money. I totally get it. But atleast compensate us for spending money on stuff we cant even use

[Ash]

1 minute ago, Flaslak19 said:

With all due respect in my opinion this is just a plot to make people spend more credits.

Gonna be honest, if that was the case they'd have allowed credit apartments to cook drugs. They'd have made hella bank if that was their focus. How do public labs make this happen?

5 minutes ago, Flaslak19 said:

A few hours of cooking doesnt mean we arent rping the majority of the time. 

That's exactly what it meant, back then you'd rarely see criminals out and about, if they wanted to chill they'd just be sat semi afk in a house or property. Nowadays the people who want to cook drugs go to labs, creating more rp opportunities and those that don't aren't missing out on the "easy money" and are content chilling out in public which is a huge win for the community. 

Disclaimer, not a hardcore gangsta so my opinion isn't hugely relevant but if I can see the benefits from the outside I could imagine crim mains would also see it. Does suck my low-level crim character can't cook his own drugs from the one-table setup in his shed anymore though

[GodDammitKopi]

You have many other options to make money as a criminal cooking isn't the end all be all. I'd suggest exploring some different avenues for making money. As you said you were cooking in an RV that holds maybe 4 tables at most. You could potentially make way more money with other criminal activities.

[Flaslak19]

3 minutes ago, GodDammitKopi said:

You have many other options to make money as a criminal cooking isn't the end all be all. I'd suggest exploring some different avenues for making money. As you said you were cooking in an RV that holds maybe 4 tables at most. You could potentially make way more money with other criminal activities.

ik they ways but this was the most realistic way for my character to do it, Got plenty rp out of it to. The justification for not allowing people to cook in lets say an RV which is risky is not good. 

[Flaslak19]

7 minutes ago, Ash said:

Gonna be honest, if that was the case they'd have allowed credit apartments to cook drugs. They'd have made hella bank if that was their focus. How do public labs make this happen?

That's exactly what it meant, back then you'd rarely see criminals out and about, if they wanted to chill they'd just be sat semi afk in a house or property. Nowadays the people who want to cook drugs go to labs, creating more rp opportunities and those that don't aren't missing out on the "easy money" and are content chilling out in public which is a huge win for the community. 

Disclaimer, not a hardcore gangsta so my opinion isn't hugely relevant but if I can see the benefits from the outside I could imagine crim mains would also see it. Does suck my low-level crim character can't cook his own drugs from the one-table setup in his shed anymore though

sure but allow people to cook in a RV.

[Ash]

1 minute ago, Flaslak19 said:

sure but allow people to cook in a RV.

I could see that working

[Flaslak19]

18 minutes ago, Ash said:

I could see that working

awesome

[Demonmit1]

The solution is allowing players to build their own public "private" lab anywhere on the overworld by letting us set up tables anywhere.

there are public chop shops in static locations everyone knows about and can use. BUT, you can buy your own and set up a private chop hidden somewhere on the map, and have a private chop. why cant we do that with tables? why can we not set up a private cook on the map like we can with a chop?

Having a private cooking lab in an instanced location is bad, and I agree with that change, but completely removing the entire concept of a private lab is bad. The obvious replacement is having it work just like private chop shops. placed on the overworld, where anyone can stumble upon it, and you have to protect it by more than a door lock.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Demonmit1

[Smoke1]

I like demonmit1 idea

[Blazendary]

They def should add private tables back since they have the whole scripts system and everything, allow ppl to cook in their RVs again with slightly increased timing to cook or to be able to have private tables again.

[Bala]

On 10/1/2024 at 6:01 PM, Flaslak19 said:

With all due respect in my opinion this is just a plot to make people spend more credits. Cooking was a very fortunate way of making money. I totally get it. But atleast compensate us for spending money on stuff we cant even use

Damn, should have asked Paulius for a percentage.

As for private tables, na, they shouldn't add them back, just never should have added them in the first place.

[DoubleA]

Honestly private labs were overpowered to do, could place a drug down, wait 10 minutes, pick the drug up, water, repeat for hours and print money. 

 

Recently with spills and all that stuff being added it made it a lot more difficult to cook. The issue is, yes you are forcing people to interact, sadly you're also forcing them to PVP. So if you're a solo player you have a VERY SLIM chance to make any profit cooking whatsoever. I understand the argument 100% but people also need to see it from the other side - its almost 4x the time to cook in places, and with houses and properties being taken away, you can realistically only cook on about idk 10 tables? (ive not done it before)

[Saint_]

Public labs were an amazing change to the server IMO with 5-6 labs being open and once there's always going to be a smaller lab for smaller groups/solos to cook at. 9/10 the big gangs are only gonna focus on big labs and other gangs so I think overall no need to go back to private labs.

 

[Quietthecutie]

We might wanna check our tin foil hats at the door. This had nothing to do with a dev conspiracy encouraging people to buy credits.

. the explanation is the same as all the other development direction the server has taken. they dont want people afk money printing in their properties. it discourages RP between factions and you might as well be on a different server watching netflix.

On 10/1/2024 at 6:15 PM, Flaslak19 said:

The justification for not allowing people to cook in lets say an RV which is risky is not good. 

Its not risky. RV cooking was about the safest way for you to make money as a criminal. speaking as someone whos done it and made alot of money off it, cops never found me, only ran into one person trying to picklock it, so long as you set it up properly and put it in a decent spot, unless someone sees you go into its its almost impossible for them to tell if anyone/anythings inside. the only time i got into bother was when it blew up due to me letting a beginner friend use it but thats a moot point.

I dont want private labs to come back in any form, i want something new for crims to do that they can make decent money doing.

Edited October 20, 2024 by Quietthecutie

[astrx]

Private labs need to stay in the ground where they belong. This only promoted solo asset grinding instead of actual roleplay.

[Bala]

The credit conspiracy theory is wild.

I personally thought the public labs were the better choice and still do. It's a multiplayer server, not story mode right, so there should be that element of danger. Not just being able to run through printing money.

Am I content with the implementation of the public labs? Ehhh, they could be better but overall they fit what Eclipse is better than private labs do.

[Flaslak19]

Ultimately what i got from the responses, Fun = bad 

[Quietthecutie]

7 hours ago, Flaslak19 said:

Ultimately what i got from the responses, Fun = bad 

Clean your ears out then. 

Free Money = Bad

[Flaslak19]

5 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

Clean your ears out then. 

Free Money = Bad

Like with all due respect, I cant take you seriously based on you trying to shut me down cuz im jewish 

[PurplePlant]

5 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

Clean your ears out then. 

Free Money = Bad

Ears? I'm pretty sure we're all reading here. Also, try to be respectful. I think the guy has a good suggestion/debate going here.

Edited October 21, 2024 by PurplePlant

[Quietthecutie]

1 hour ago, PurplePlant said:

Ears? I'm pretty sure we're all reading here. Also, try to be respectful. I think the guy has a good suggestion/debate going here.

The debate is bring back private labs because its all one big conspiracy to get people to spend more credits. also you know what I mean.

I finished my post my saying I'd love something new to be added for crims to make proper money with. but objectively private labs was never it. RVs only got a pass for a while because they had been recently added and they wanted to keep them relevant. but even that turned out to be bad because people would predictably, sit inside them and afk money print. and where is the respect from him taking all our responses and just saying fun = bad.

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Quietthecutie

[Flaslak19]

16 minutes ago, Quietthecutie said:

The debate is bring back private labs because its all one big conspiracy to get people to spend more credits. also you know what I mean.

I finished my post my saying I'd love something new to be added for crims to make proper money with. but objectively private labs was never it. RVs only got a pass for a while because they had been recently added and they wanted to keep them relevant. but even that turned out to be bad because people would predictably, sit inside them and afk money print. and where is the respect from him taking all our responses and just saying fun = bad.

 

from getting the resources to actually cook, to finding a good spot to cook, to selling the drugs and finding buyers. Big risk reward and ton of rp. Just bcs the cook part is not roleplay it doesnt mean it doesnt bring roleplay. And its not printing money. Factions usually buys the drugs and they have to pay. My RV drug lab arc was the most interesting part of my rp ive done on the server. Anyone who says its not roleplay are just plain wrong. Sure those who sit in apartments and are already in factions with monopoly cooking all day ill agree. But that does not apply at all to lonewolfs or duos cooking looking to make abit of money.