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Again, it doesn't matter if it's already enough, why would LEOs not cite and charge the shit out of you if that meant unlimited guns, ammo, armor etc? For example, current rate of operations can provide me with one full set of armor a day but if I charge a criminal with everything I can then my faction can afford to give me two sets of armor now and I don't have to worry about conserving my first set of armor just like before when there was no faction budget and now the crim just served time and paid fines for some charges I wouldn't have usually added. And yes all the money quite literally is disappearing since it's used to buy LEO armor, guns, ammo etc. all of which the community cannot obtain and it's non-reusable resources.

What would be the point of having this whole raising funds system if the current rate of money the factions would get from normal operations is enough to let us play the way we play now. Implementing this system won't hurt LEOs at all, it will just hurt crim RP since it incentivises LEOs to charge and cite you guys more so they can have the same amount of stuff as they did before.

Making us raise funds means we have to charge people as much as possible and cite people as much as possible to make money. Ultimately this will circle back on crims and they will be the ones paying for our gear.

Paying for all your gear is so stupid. What law enforcement agency would make the employee pay for their service pistols, body armor, and cruiser, and heavy weaponry. That costs 600k+ in eclipse and the only people with 10+ million are the high command who have been in the faction for 2-3 years. Like an admin said on the last discussion. The average leo makes 5000-6500 an hour and have a 20-35% tax rate depending on if you're a VIP or not. If I put 30 hours into the faction I get ~$120k because my character has a 35% tax rate since I'm not VIP. My character would use all of that in a week so I would just lose money playing. Making LEOs pay for the gear is not the solution. Restricting them through a faction budget and rank authority is.

Correct, pagers notify specific members of the faction who are in the division. Others who aren't in the division, can't see it.

As a LEO I think there are a few things that could be fixed but I also think that a big issue with the crim/LEO balance is that crim is simply too grindy. 1. I like the idea of having to refuel and repair my own cruiser. I think that would be a more immersive experience and it's also a balancing improvement. win-win with that. Cruisers should not be despawned unless they are bugged or somewhere that cannot be retrieved by a flatbed. 2. I don't think LEOs should have to pay for any equipment unless we get a salary boost (bad idea). However, I think some of the guns need to have higher rank requirements like the shotgun. Carbine is fine with the rank authority required but detectives/investigators should not be using it. I also think standard patrol kevlar should be 50 AP with the exception of SED and Metro. 100 AP should still be accessible to LEOs but make it mandatory that there is RP with it. And by that I mean actually getting out of your cruiser, opening the door/trunk and using /me to put it on. Not just going /me puts on his kevlar and then hop out the car with it on. 100 should only be used when going into highly dangerous situations. 3. The number of shinobis allowed to be deployed at once by each department should be limited to 1. The number of Jugulars allowed to be deployed at once by each department should be limited to 1. Personally I don't like the idea of people patrolling in Jugulars even though that's an executive staff thing only. There are already IC restrictions on deployment of these types of cars but I notice often times the rules aren't enforced very well which needs to be addressed ICly. 4. Either make it a lot easier to get money for crims or reduce fines associated with charges. Also slash jail times. I don't think a cap is necessarily needed but things like evading shouldn't be 60 minutes, make it 30. Same with carrying illegal firearms etc. 5. Helicopter pre-flight RP needs to be enforced. People are expected to do it but I can tell it's not enforced. This will delay the rate at which a helicopter can be deployed. The fuel also needs to be decreased on helicopters. 6. Unrelated but combat rolling is a pretty cringe and unrealistic game feature. If possible, which I don't think it is, the feature should be removed. Doesn't make sense for anyone to be combat rolling because who actually does that? I would say most people, including myself, use the mechanic during gun fights but it is pretty unrealistic.

Just don't say cough drop. It's cringe. Quick little /b vr 1 is much better or simply "cough"

This seems to have been implemented and can be archived!

That character background goes crazy!

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With the current rate at which updates are done, this would take ages to complete. I also don't think this would provide enough benefit to the server with the amount of time a gun range minigame like that would take to make. Also have the risk of people just DMing each other at the shooting range. If we had a big development team, sure this would be a cool little function for the server, but I would rather see the two devs we have put their time into other things.

Aren't some of these commands dependent on having a GPS? Like /showvehicles only works when you have a GPS

There is also the problem that people take a long time to respond. So even if you "treat" them in time it doesn't matter if the other person is not paying attention or stalling RP.

-1 I feel you shouldn't feel rushed to type out your RP. Because medical RP is mostly text and not script having a fast timer isn't very effective. It would cause people to create bad quality RP which nobody will enjoy. I personally enjoy typing out lots of detailed RP which just takes time to type out. I would rather like to see the timer stay long and have a script that will take into consideration the amount of damage a player received and after /cpr there is a % chance the command keeps them alive or then the player dies. This lets us keep the good quality text RP but also make the RP more realistic.

You don't seem to know much about LEOs it seems. If someone is running or resisting arrest, you tase them. That is the whole point of having a taser. Why would a cop fist fight an individual rather than hitting them with a baton, or tasing them? There will never be 2 helicopters in the same pursuit unless one of the helicopters didn't already know there was a helicopter in that pursuit. "Stop tazing everyone just because you want to be done with people" A taser doesn't end a situation. You can still RPly resist. A lot of people don't really respond to the effects of a taser anyway which is why cops need to taze over and over again because you can literally see the individual trying to sprint while still be under the taser's effect. "If there is a drag, bring a drag not helicopters" Frankly nothing LEOs have can keep up with a drag except a helicopter. We can't just pull out a drag. We only have a select few vehicles that we can use and non can keep up with a hakuchou drag. "I also read that they just now got an update that made their cars loose fuel?? Like excuse me???" again you have no idea what you're talking about. Cop cars have always lost fuel. The update made it so we loose even more fuel than before.

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*Gets caught and is facing 3 hours of jailtime and 40k in fines* */me has a heart attack after hearing sentence* */die*

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Criminal factions aren't just given guns because we aren't a cops vs robbers RP server. Guns shouldn't be the center of criminal RP. Giving free guns to gangs will just promote more shootout RP which usually isn't good quality RP. Considering the developers have been working on a major drug update for at least 7 months, I woudn't say Crim RP isn't wanted, but it also isn't all we want.

Right but some people do paperwork at the end of their shift etc. So if you arrested someone like 3 hours ago and just realized you didn't suspend their license, then it's unfair to suspend it that late. Removing the proximity will 100% encourage this behavior. I don't think there is any need to remove the proximity because it should be done when you're adding charges with the suspect in the cruiser or next to you at the cells. If we are really that worried about suspending a license, then perhaps just have the script automatically suspend the license when a charge is added.

+1 I would like to see it work where the script gives you a random amount of guns/ammo based off rng and then it can give you any handguns the store sells so it's not just .50s. I would also like to see the actually robbery part work in a unique way. Make it not as easy to rob as a grocery store but also not requiring as much as a bank robbery since the value you would get is less than a bank. This brings up another point which is goes off topic a little bit, but adding some sort of minigames to banks/gun store robberies would be cool for cracking into vaults etc instead of just using drills or lockpicks. One issue I can think of is that there are a ton of gun stores in the server, so perhaps just designate certain stores that can actually be robbed? It would just be too much imo if every grocery store and gun store can be robbed on top of the banks that can be robbed as well. Regarding the interactions between LEOs and Crims during these robberies, there isn't really a solution to it. Things will play out naturally just like they always do.

Less likely to happen because if they have gotten out of prison you would have to find that person and do it. At that point odds are pretty low that the arresting officer would go out of their way to do that. It's on us as LEOs to do it at the appropriate time rather than punish the individual for our mistake.

I've heard that once you have started your sentence and a charge is added whether thats because you did another crime while in prison or because someone forgot to add the charge before your sentence, that added charge bypasses the time deduction given by VIP etc. It might just be an oversight but I think that if a charge is added once you are in prison, you should still get your VIP jailtime deduction.

-1 If you forget to suspend the license, go back to DOC and suspend it. I agree with @SmushyTacothat it isn't fair to suspend the license x amount of hours later etc because then that can add extra time. And then it can get confusing when someone gets out of jail, gets their car out of the impound but then the license gets suspended after they have already gotten their car out. Then this can cause some confusion as to why a LEO let someone with a suspended license take out their car despite the suspension happening after that etc. I also wouldn't trust some individuals with this because they would intentionally wait to suspend it later.

There was an F1 event there recently I think. NASCAR could be cool too.