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Can't say I'm feeling particularly supportive to this tonight, has something changed in these faction's mentality that warrants this kind of change? If we want to start taking the stabilisers off the bicycle, I hope that means the handcuffs can come off the legal factions when it comes to more proportionate responses to handling these situations. I'm fine with having those Black Hawk Down moments on occasion, but I hope that this new potential freedom comes with less complaining when it comes time for PD and SD to tap that ass.

Regarding bus pay and routes, we'll look at those when the new bus routes come into play. For me, I don't think it's about what you get paid so much as what you do to get paid with these jobs, if I'm honest. You could make the bus driver more interesting by having like the active bus drivers appear on the mini-map doing the routes, have a basic pay with bonuses for completing the route within a set window of time (not too fast, not too slow) or for completing it without damaging the vehicle. Adding things like job skill levels, whether that's to access new vehicles associated with the job, bonuses for completing the job or new activities with the job, would reward repetition. Right now, you can catch fish 1 and be paid the same for the 1000th fish you catch. Hell, rotate the payout bonuses on jobs, so jobs 1-2-3 have better pay this week, then next week jobs 4-5-6 do. Add more activities that you can do to make money and where the job isn't a 9-5, stop with the automatic tax stuff. I'd do a full thread on it, if I thought it would go somewhere.

Always liked the idea of making more orange clothes

+1, please!

I'll have a chat with the powers that be, see if we can work out a solution between us. Think understandably there isn't a desire to have loads of active labs but perhaps a slight increase with more potential locations would ease the congestion.

Hello @checkky, I believe I can shed some light on this for you. The banks that you were referring to, (Grapeseed and Route 68) were part of the "Balamaps" update that I pushed last March. The structure of that update was a number of maps rolled into one resource. You may have noticed that some of the other maps have also recently disappeared as well. That is essentially because the original idea was for the maps to be separated and re-added in stages, starting with the MLO updates we did before Christmas. The developers decided to put that on hold for other updates to take precedence. The VIP update, the Casino, the clothing update etc.. That said, there still remains a desire to return those maps and more to the server in the coming months, as you are quite right and you share my opinion that more locations for banks were a good thing.

To be honest, the fact you can openly gamble in the cellblock in prison is already unrealistic. Gambling isn't really allowed in US prisons aside from a prison in Nevada that actually had a casino for inmates at one point. So, really, you might ask well make it worth while to participate in by adding one of the casino games to the prison for stamps. For anyone that will say prison isn't supposed to be fun, it's also from a game experience not supposed to boring either. I'm sure @Chunder and company would rather deal with the odd fight over Blackjack than bored people doing anything and everything to alleviate their boredom. Just stick this guy as the dealer. If you want an RP back story, just say he's a trustee that Kourtney has hired for prisoner recreation.

I agree with you in principle, I think losing things outside of circumstances beyond your control is incredibly frustrating, no matter the amount. To some people on this server $15k is actually quite a bit of money especially if you are just starting out. Might this be something that is not only lowered but also, something which could be entrusted to our senior admin team as well as the heads? Not just to handle the increase in requests but also, just to better serve these requests? I don't know if the limitation is a admin permission issue or not but I think if you're at the point you are a senior admin, you can be more than trusted to be beyond reproach right?

Perhaps since the scripting now exists, just have two loadouts of the wheel. Free Daily Spin. Prizes aren't as good, but doesn't cost you anything to play. Paid Spin.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, we'll look into it. @RushMatty

lol

Love you too and DOC.

Okay, so they're dedicated and what? Are their opinions or yours or mine any more valid? If people either don't have an opinion or don't want to voice it, that's their own affair but assuming that something is bad because this thread got made is nonsense. We're on page 2 and half the content is me, responding to people like you. If this change was that bad, you'd hear a lot more about it considering it's not a specific change for specific groups. This change isn't for you and it's not for me. It was brought in by the staff team, for the staff team to be able to do what they need to, to get reports done. This has nothing to do with in-game, just out of it. Relying and expecting for staff to communicate rule break changes and precedents through individual player report outcomes is actually retarded and I think considering the confusion that permeates through the community concerning rules, privatising the reports and if they choose to go the announcement route, as I suggested before, then we will see a lot more clarity community-wide. I don't have the first clue about criminal DM precedents, I'm a cop. My faction rules are more or less the server rules. As long as I follow the faction rules, I won't end up in trouble for gameplay reasons. But, it would be handy to know when something is decided, in case I want to stop being a cop or I need to report someone. I say this as someone that has contributed to the suggestion forum more than most, it's like making a long social media post and then never sending it. I don't see the 'aw fuck, they are just complaining, why dont they go and just play the game?' thing as valid but at the same time, there's plenty of other things to be salty about here, this just isn't as deep as some people make it out to be. What did make me chuckle though, is look through the people that have said they want to see it reversed, I rest my case lmao.

Water isn't wet, because it needs a solid surface to maintain itself on, to achieve a state of wetness. Water is never dry, so by extension, it can't be wet.

How do you know what the community wants though? This thread has been going for ten days, the change has been active for a little longer and we're about half way through page two. While that doesn't necessarily imply they are happy about the change, it would seem either people are fine with it or they simply don't give enough of a fuck to talk one way or another. For some of you, I don't think how the report system is set-up is going to make a lick of difference, because some of you will run into trouble regardless of how things are set-up. As for a happy community, business is booming, baby. Majority of active players in the community aren't on here complaining about stuff, they're playing. I don't know what the reason was for this change, but I can see what benefits it would bring when it comes to making these decisions. Regardless of the change, I think staff could and should do a better job explaining their stance on certain areas of the rules, particularly when significant precedents are set. An individual's report isn't the place for that, it's something that deserves it's own section and for them to state clearly what the change is, why it was changed and what it means for the future.

Na man, somethings just shouldn't be messed with. Think it's a good way for people to remember people and while it might not always be "realistic", it leads to an easier interaction with someone when you can identify them which is something that on an RP server we want. When it comes to changing your appearance, aside from getting some shitty lip fillers and some turkey teeth, people don't change that much anyway.

Regarding your first point, if being an ECRP staff member was a job, I’d be inclined to agree with you. You’d be there to do a job, you’d be getting paid, who cares what some phleb thinks. That said, it’s a big community but when you’re a staff member and everyone is watching what you do, it’s a really small community. The really good staff members do their thing regardless of whether or not it’ll be a popular decision. Not everyone is that confident, to be able to shut that noise out. If those people can do a good job, without feeling coerced or nervous about making the right decision, then it’s a good change. Plus, I never have to see people say ‘thank you staff for taking this report’ again, that shit made me sick. Hope this ends up getting rid of the fucked up report mentality that has been here for years and people just use the report section for rule breaks, not for other more petty reasons. Public reports, a bit like ‘Save POV’ can get in the bin. We up.

Yes, but it's a gaming community, not a court of law. Not every one is comfortable being the bad guy and no one is paid to be. Decisions don't need to be judged by the player base. As long as you know what rules you need to follow, it doesn't matter what happens to other people.

-1. Reports section has too long been the court of public opinion and it fostered a mentality of the report section being weaponised to discredit a person or faction. You don’t necessarily need to be proved as a rule breaker to be assumed to be one, just be reported enough times basically and it’s one of the negative aspects of ECRP. As a result, I get the feeling that some staff feel pressured into making the popular decision rather than the right decision and with people less focused on setting or what precedents are set, they can review each report as they should, individually, on a case by case basis according to the rules we all need to act by. I agree with you OP that there is a potential issue there but I feel that can be resolved by staff coming out publicly when precedents have been set privately and communicating how something will change and why moving forward. We don’t need to be privy to an individuals rule breaks. That’s between them and staff. We just have to be aware if it may effect us moving forward. Report section doesn’t have to be public for that.

Brought a tear to my eye

Not sure you needed to revive a dead thread to be honest, I get it you don't like people doing things that make actual sense

Lmao no, don't want Lamar to tell me to suck my mum over VOIP.

I think all due respect to you or any one else wanting this to be a thing. The perception by the same people wanting this, of PD and SD is that we're try hards and we'll do anything to 'win' a situation. Fuck the "realism" argument for a minute. Fuck the "it's a game" argument as well. Let me ask you, with all seriousness and honesty, do you think that PD and SD would be more or less likely to try and do anything to win a situation, if those are the stakes? Combine that mentality with a faction that doesn't have limitations on the amount of people it can hire, combine that with a faction that has access to some pretty high powered vehicles and weapons and combine that with a faction that gets shot at on a daily basis and trains against that. Are you REALLY sure that is the sort of Police Department you want to encourage? We are not the same kind of faction. Our roles and our objectives are completely different. So, why are we comparing? I speak for myself when I say this but if we go that way, either I'm doing absolutely nothing to put myself in harm's way or I'm saying fuck the roleplay and making sure you have as little to no chance to do anything like that. The problem with adding those kind of consequences to losing for PD/SD, is that our objectives and mentality inevitably changes. Trust me, you might think you want it but you don't.

No one is repeatedly oocly reinstating, in the cases where it has happened, either the person never fucked up again or they ended up getting the boot permanently. We have internal corruption rules, which are OOC and anyone that is "corrupt" has to have permission for that with sufficient back story and reason for being corrupt. There is an important distinction between individuals that have OOC permission to be corrupt in our faction or that just do something stupid in the heat of the moment, to people who are just plain shit at being cops and go off the goop without any kind of permission. No one in PD wants to be associated with that second kind of person. At this moment in time, there is either no one or a very, very small amount of people in PD with authorisation to be corrupt in PD. I don't have it and if I applied for it, I wouldn't get it because I don't have the RP to support it. Trust me when I say, no one is more of a stickler for PD acting right than Kris, Pazz and Silky. Certainly not @addybeta

There would be consequences, I wouldn't be able to use the character I've used for the past five years and that everyone in the server that I have met knows me for. That's the consequence. Essentially, that character is dead from that point. Turning him criminal as an ex-cop makes no sense and if what I've done to get fired is bad enough I get felony charges, no is likely going to want to hire my character. Any criminal that is worth shit in this server doesn't file internal affairs reports, neither do they wear body cameras. No self respecting criminal even entertains that thought, it's like snitching and if we're being honest, it's just an extension of the win at all costs ooc mentality. If you a petty crook or a civilian then fair enough make your complaint, make your report because that is realistic but if your character is supposed to be a serious criminal, you don't need to be anywhere near IA lmao. As a serious crim, you don't have any positive feeling about police so why would you go to the police about police? Circling back, losing my character is bad enough. I'm not about to give up my faction leadership spot to become a new person, especially when everyone is going to remember me for Dezzy anyway lmao.