Allow Drills to open Safes

[inorigj]

8 hours ago, isBrainDed said:

Just to correct on this. We don't just call staff, but first a warrant needs to get approved which is done by a 3rd party not affiliated with PD. Then a specialized member of PD needs to be online to do said RP, not everyone in PD can just RP "blowing open" the safes.

I did simplify the process a bit im my message. Apologies for that. But I meant after they had planned it.

As in. PD sees guns being stashed. They request a warrant and get that process finished and then raid. Didn't mean to make it look like PD can just see the house /Ram and go to work. Poorly worded on my part.

[Ritchie Stones]

-1 nobody should be punished for being offline and their stuf being taken, 

 

it all sounds like a great plan until its you that got stolen 3 years of your stuff overnight, its to critical of damage and would people give up on the server.

 

Why would you own any stuff if anyone can pass by and take it away…

- on the side of that, you guys think you going to make big bank out of this, but reality is that ppl wil lock everything up in their appartments, push their stash RV’s in the water, and all safes that are left will be empty because everyone jumps onto the race and all you guys will get is empty safes… 

[Eliza]

-1

I don’t think raids should be allowed to be executed at all unless the player getting raided is confirmed to be online at the time. If I wanted to play Rust and get offline raided, I’d go play Rust.

[Ritchie Stones]

14 hours ago, DontSniffSugar said:

-1

I don’t think raids should be allowed to be executed at all unless the player getting raided is confirmed to be online at the time. If I wanted to play Rust and get offline raided, I’d go play Rust.

Exactly my point, you said it better, the reality of this is so brutal, nobody wil own anything anymore because everyone keep raiding eachother 

[tigerpet15]

Exactly. There is an unofficial rule you need DM rights or appropriate escalation to attemnt somenes house robbery. What is the right way to go I believe.

[Quietthecutie]

-1 there was a more recent suggestion similar to this one and ill give the same reason, it would generate poor rp toxic interactions.

[Requiem]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:55 PM, DontSniffSugar said:

-1

I don’t think raids should be allowed to be executed at all unless the player getting raided is confirmed to be online at the time. If I wanted to play Rust and get offline raided, I’d go play Rust.

I would prefer to have all players online when a raid is conducted as well, as it would make the situation much more interesting, but trying to align schedules between players to make this happen is difficult enough and then if Law enforcement did reach out OOCly to schedule this, you already know it would get meta gamed and abused and the person that was going to get raided could potentially just move their stash to avoid loss. 

[Eliza]

6 hours ago, Requiem said:

I would prefer to have all players online when a raid is conducted as well, as it would make the situation much more interesting, but trying to align schedules between players to make this happen is difficult enough and then if Law enforcement did reach out OOCly to schedule this, you already know it would get meta gamed and abused and the person that was going to get raided could potentially just move their stash to avoid loss. 

I get where you’re coming from. I agree that scheduling raids can be really tricky, and there’s 100% a risk of metagaming if law enforcement tries to coordinate OOCly beforehand. That said, I’m not suggesting raids should be removed, I think they’re a great part of the RP experience and add a lot to the server, and it definately makes sense that if a player, whether this is a LEO or a crim, would raid a property if they found out there was illegal things or valuables inside.

My issue is how unfair it can feel to be raided while offline, with no chance to respond or even be part of the situation. Even if the person being raided doesn't intervene in-game, just having the option to do something makes a big difference. From an RP perspective, it also doesn’t make much sense for a character to “wake up” in their house and find all their stuff gone with no explanation, it kind of breaks the immersion.

You know as well as I do that raids often need help from staff, so something like a quick /report 1 Is John_Doe online so we can raid this property? seems like a simple way to address this without opening the door to metagaming. If the player isn’t online, the raid could just wait until they are.

At the end of the day, I just think it’s important for players to have a chance to participate in situations that directly affect them. It’s frustrating to feel like something major happened while you weren’t even there, and I think we can find a way to balance fairness with the challenges of scheduling.

[Earl Mud]

-1 the fact my properties doors sometimes unlock magically through some kind of abuse that I can't catch since I'm not there to see it I don't want this added.

[Ritchie Stones]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:53 AM, Earl Mud said:

-1 the fact my properties doors sometimes unlock magically through some kind of abuse that I can't catch since I'm not there to see it I don't want this added.

Did you buy the propperty from someone ? Chek if the outside or/and inside still has proppertypermission running, when i bought my first island i had like 10 ppl stil on the list to acces everything, 

i think its something like list propperty permission, 

[CharlesXiao]

-1

I just don’t see the point, seems to me like this would promote trying to raid (which is incredibly hard as is) and would lead to many situations where escalation was not obtained. Also the drill can be used to drill safes in house robberies : - )

[Steven Hayes]

This would only make bad rp interactions i dont see how this adds anything positive tbh. If you have a reason to raid someone's house you can just kidnap and force them to unlock/interrogate for safe codes and by fearrp they have to comply. Only condition I could see this being good is if police got thermite or the ability to use the drill to break safes but I think they can already get staff to help with unlocking thermited safes so it isnt really needed for police. 

[Earl Mud]

On 1/13/2025 at 2:22 PM, Ritchie Stones said:

Did you buy the propperty from someone ? Chek if the outside or/and inside still has proppertypermission running, when i bought my first island i had like 10 ppl stil on the list to acces everything, 

i think its something like list propperty permission, 

Yes already been checked and double checked. 

[Arthur2432]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:56 AM, Demonmit1 said:

exactly why it hasnt and shouldnt be added. the negatives heavily outweigh the positives. altRP requests exist for a reason, for staff to assist if you have enough reason to do this with staff help as a crim.

i literly asked for alt rp to rply drill a safe i had a reason i found a gun in  someones exterior safe and the admin just declined it

if you want to read the alt rp https://tickettool.xyz/transcript/v1/1273594011126468661/1329527268451815515/transcript-alt-rp-0180.html/678e9ec2/678d4d42/6c204c98f606ff5a76984b98a649d439f33f2a4187fea759999c9b666d7aad3b