Prozacel Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 As long as credits are bind on account, also if you import a car using credits should be bind on account. This way even if you create a 2nd character on the same account you should benefit of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Ceez Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 +1 since credits are OOC I should have OOC access to any credit vehicles across all characters under one account. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarine Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 -1 Even though it is purchased through OOC means it crosses the OOC/IC line once it becomes a physical presence in the server (the car is imported) and thereby is bound ICly (even referenced as a special bitcoin import to further bind it IC). Also think about this - how would two people who do not know each other, have full access and ownership to the exact same vehicle? If said vehicle is parked at a personal residence, how does a stranger have access to the garage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozacel Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, Aldarine said: -1 Even though it is purchased through OOC means it crosses the OOC/IC line once it becomes a physical presence in the server (the car is imported) and thereby is bound ICly (even referenced as a special bitcoin import to further bind it IC). Also think about this - how would two people who do not know each other, have full access and ownership to the exact same vehicle? If said vehicle is parked at a personal residence, how does a stranger have access to the garage? Let me answer your question: "how would two people who do not know each other, have full access and ownership to the exact same vehicle?" Well it is not the same vehicle. The imported vehicle is bind to account. That means each character that I have on that account should be assigned with a car like that. Probably you will say, nice you import one and because you have 3 characters then you get 3. Wrong . You can not be logged with more than one character , so at anytime in fact you are using only one imported car. An account can have multiple characters which don`t share things. So, as long as I buy credits and those are assigned to my account, then everything that I buy with those should be assigned to my account. For ie VIP, the VIP is bind to account, even if you are on a character or another you benefit of the VIP perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magz Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Powers Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 -1 No way, you shouldn't have vehicles stuck on your account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozacel Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Thank you @Brandon Powers for your comprehensive feedback. Can you also explain why you came at this conclusion at least? It's not about all vehicles , it`s about vehicles bought with bitcoins (credits). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Einhart Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 The currency used to buy the vehicle is OOC. The vehicle itself is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyB Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 +1 Yes, it crosses the OOC/IC line once you import it BUT since these are bought OOC with real money there should be a compromise. Im sure we could find a way to satisfy the RP aspect of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozacel Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 @Victor Einhart I kinda try to look from your point. It is another perspective. I could say fair enough in the first phase about juggling between OOC and IC. But what about VIP ? It`s in the same situation, a service bought OOC but its perks applies to all characters IC. So this should be removed too in your opinion correct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Einhart Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 VIP is a service, a vehicle is an item. They aren't the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozacel Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Both : service and item are bought with real money from the same account, so it should behave in the same way. It doesn`t influence the in-game currency because you can not sell an imported vehicle, so what is the problem using it then ? Same for walking styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR4STL Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zion Willard Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 -1 For the same reasons others have stated. Credits are OOC sure, vehicles are not. There’s no reason why it should duplicate across all characters. If you want a credit vehicle on one, just buy it on that character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Livingston Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 +1 I don't see how this is seen as a "duplication" issue. It's a single account, you're not allowed to share the account; If you can't share the account then only a single character from the account can be logged in at a time I would expect, and therefore there is no way to RP with yourself, or any people you know, so your characters are never linked.... that also means that your vehicles should never be allowed to be out of the garage at once too (have to return Car A on Character 1 before being able to take it out on Character 2) It's a bit naff that you can buy a car for 50 Euro, and then are completely unable to use it on other characters. What if you RP something like a crim, and then have another character for RP'ing another role in society, like a normal civ with normal businesses? What if you buy it on Character 1, and then start a fresh Character which does things you enjoy more? Should you have to donate another 50 Euros or more to have the vehicle you initially donated for in the beginning? People are donating for the vehicle, even if you wrap it inside of "this is supporting the server" the majority of people are not donating simply to support the server, but to get something instead. If you import 2 vehicles, and spend 100 Euros, you're essentially forced into using that Character forever, unless you have another 100 Euros to piss away on another character. If you can't share vehicles across the account, then at least allow them to be transferred OOC'ly to another character on the same account as an "Export".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshFellow Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 -1, yeah credits are OOC, but vehicles are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abixo Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 -1. As others have said, whilst credits are OOC, vehicles are not. Whilst I would like to see further benefits to donator/VIP (I am aware we have to be very careful to not introduce pay2win elements) but I don't think this is the right way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flucifial Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hello, thank you for making this suggestion. We're not interested in this suggestion right now, thank you again though! Kind Regards, Flucifial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
